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RE: NRO's John Derbyshire's incredibly racist advice to... - 4/8/2012 10:49:40 AM   
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The point of this story is that while a tribesman who has never gotten a "proper british education," may not be good and figuring out whether a black square is the next shape/color match in a pattern, they were pretty smart on an IQ test of something that mattered to them.

On the subject of intelligence, and in particular who has it and who doesn't, the question you chose for your illustration is a culture-free (and education-free) test of abstract reasoning ability.

K.



Pattern recognition is has a lot to do with mathematical ability where accurate repetition is a valuable skill, wheres a valuable skill for a hunter gatherer is being able to identify a single individual tree or rock from among thousands of other very similar trees or rocks, a skill most civilized peoples do not possess to any degree.

We can't even tell one Black person from another.

One question I failed in my IQ assessment was to figure out what was missing in a picture, one was of a girl with an umbrella where the struts were missing: I live in New Mexico, nobody owns or uses umbrellas here, only ones I'd ever seen were in comics, where it's usual to leave out details like that.

I still scored 140.

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RE: NRO's John Derbyshire's incredibly racist advice to... - 4/8/2012 12:18:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		That guy has said quite a few things that should have gotten him disciplined over the years but for some reason never was.

Outrage by the general public was never enough.......cons often seem to enjoy when they outrage people......

Guess this time......embarrassment of the right.......was the straw the broke the camel`s back.

Did rush really fuck things up that bad for media versions of the WBC...or has the world just gotten a whole lot smaller...the ugliness to big to hide anymore...... because of the social media?

My guess is the latter.

Hey rich.....did you ever consider that the "int-er-netz" and social networking would be so detrimental to your party and your party`s dirty tactics?

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Little FYI for normal folks,rightist love and clamor for this sewage.They have their very own network dedicated to serving up the bloody red meat.They even brag about the high ratings.





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RE: NRO's John Derbyshire's incredibly racist advice to... - 4/8/2012 12:32:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah, I'm thinking it's probably the latter as well - they've gone to great lengths to develop a captive audience, but between them and total control of the media lies and inconvenient thing called the First amendment and the free market of public opinion.

There remains a significant technical question w/regards to any potential regulation of the internet w/regards to protecting free speech while also protecting intellectual property, although I don't want to threadjack this into that debate, it's the main reason I'm skeptical of net neutrality critics, i.e., the free speech issue.

I'm all for protecting intellectual property to the extent it's possible without curbing the significant advance in creating this highly democratic form of mass communication/consensus formation, which I think are at least the equal of, if not far more significant than it's potential commercial applications.

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RE: NRO's John Derbyshire's incredibly racist advice to... - 4/8/2012 12:52:56 PM   
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Yeah, I'm thinking it's probably the latter as well - they've gone to great lengths to develop a captive audience, but between them and total control of the media lies and inconvenient thing called the First amendment and the free market of public opinion.

There remains a significant technical question w/regards to any potential regulation of the internet w/regards to protecting free speech while also protecting intellectual property, although I don't want to threadjack this into that debate, it's the main reason I'm skeptical of net neutrality critics, i.e., the free speech issue.

I'm all for protecting intellectual property to the extent it's possible without curbing the significant advance in creating this highly democratic form of mass communication/consensus formation, which I think are at least the equal of, if not far more significant than it's potential commercial applications.


Meh, (will leave it at this to avoid hijacking the thread), My observation/experience is that folks who try to protect intellectual property from individual use end up costing themselves money coming and going. A lot of folks who get a "free sample," will later buy, and the folks who are not going to later buy won't do so if the "free sample," isn't available...
Remember what happened to Madonna when she went after piracy of her songs? Cost her millions of dollars in sales, so I doubt she was happy with the result.

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RE: NRO's John Derbyshire's incredibly racist advice to... - 4/8/2012 1:04:52 PM   
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Hey rich.....did you ever consider that the "int-er-netz" and social networking would be so detrimental to your party and your party`s dirty tactics?





I'm a free speech kind of guy, Owner59, and since it was that same "int-er-netz," that just blew the hell out NBC's attampts to inflame racial tensions with the Zimmerman edit, I'm fine with it.


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RE: NRO's John Derbyshire's incredibly racist advice to... - 4/8/2012 1:11:47 PM   
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Yeah, I'm thinking it's probably the latter as well - they've gone to great lengths to develop a captive audience, but between them and total control of the media lies and inconvenient thing called the First amendment and the free market of public opinion.

There remains a significant technical question w/regards to any potential regulation of the internet w/regards to protecting free speech while also protecting intellectual property, although I don't want to threadjack this into that debate, it's the main reason I'm skeptical of net neutrality critics, i.e., the free speech issue.

I'm all for protecting intellectual property to the extent it's possible without curbing the significant advance in creating this highly democratic form of mass communication/consensus formation, which I think are at least the equal of, if not far more significant than it's potential commercial applications.

Good points.


There was a time,when jerkoffs like G Gordon Liddy and rush could say ANYTHING on AM talk radio....and did........because no one cared about or listened to AM talk radio.

I remember when rush started out and was still funny.He`s become very bitter and angry over the years.....for some reason.

His 1st advertisers were b-grade at best.Vocabulary learning tapes and Snapple softdrinks.Having the ad asking 4 times an
hour if you`ve been embarrassed by using the wrong words.....got really old fast.

But for better or for worse.....the world`s gotten way smaller by the netz and the power of public opinion has gotten way bigger.

I couldn`t be happier.The more sunlight the better....the more information the better.....the more democracy the better.

There will still be a dark under-belly to the internet,like braibart and his ilk.......but with it.....a way for the formerly powerless to combat it.

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RE: NRO's John Derbyshire's incredibly racist advice to... - 4/8/2012 2:37:33 PM   
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Hey rich.....did you ever consider that the "int-er-netz" and social networking would be so detrimental to your party and your party`s dirty tactics?





I'm a free speech kind of guy, Owner59, and since it was that same "int-er-netz," that just blew the hell out NBC's attampts to inflame racial tensions with the Zimmerman edit, I'm fine with it.



You`re about as supportive of a free and open press as braitbart was.

I recall a thread a while back where you tossed around the "O"-word (Orwell) in reference to an effort to keep track of the dirty tricks you cons were up to......

Just got this email from team Obama`s "Truth Team"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dM9DVC7kd7s

So what happened to the guy who did the fucked up edit?

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RE: NRO's John Derbyshire's incredibly racist advice to... - 4/8/2012 3:19:57 PM   
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Just got this email from team Obama`s "Truth Team"




Yes. I'm sure you did.

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RE: NRO's John Derbyshire's incredibly racist advice to... - 4/8/2012 3:24:23 PM   
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I recall a thread a while back where you tossed around the "O"-word (Orwell) in reference to an effort to keep track of the dirty tricks you cons were up to......

Just got this email from team Obama`s "Truth Team"




You really should read 1984. You'd understand why it makes some people laugh so very hard when you put sentences like this right next to each other.

The copyright expired. It's a free download, or you can just read it online.

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RE: NRO's John Derbyshire's incredibly racist advice to... - 4/8/2012 3:33:13 PM   
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The copyright expired.

Not until 2020 it doesn't. I think it's going to be in copyright for another few years in the 'States as well. You're not from Canada or Australia are you?

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RE: NRO's John Derbyshire's incredibly racist advice to... - 4/8/2012 4:06:32 PM   
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You're not from Canada or Australia are you?



No, but it seems my link was. "Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage."

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RE: NRO's John Derbyshire's incredibly racist advice to... - 4/8/2012 4:25:02 PM   
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I recall a thread a while back where you tossed around the "O"-word (Orwell) in reference to an effort to keep track of the dirty tricks you cons were up to......

Just got this email from team Obama`s "Truth Team"




You really should read 1984. You'd understand why it makes some people laugh so very hard when you put sentences like this right next to each other.

The copyright expired. It's a free download, or you can just read it online.

Making abuse of the terms into an art form doesn`t mean you understand the story.

Notice in the vid....the two realities.....Mitt`s alt.-reality and what actually happened in real life.

Like in Orwell`s dark nightmare ,where the government imposed an alternate reality on the real world.....the Ministry Of Love,acting more like the inquisition,the Ministry of Truth,tasked with delivering the alternate reality and then their`s the Thought Police.......which remind me of andrew braitbart and the OP.

Imo,"free speech has nothing to do with making up bullshit or lying.

It does though,have everything to do with debunking the bullshiters and sending out the door w/ a red fanny.




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RE: NRO's John Derbyshire's incredibly racist advice to... - 4/8/2012 4:54:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		You're almost there, Owner59. It's almost like watching someone learning to read, sounding out a big word correctly, but not recognizing the word they have said.

Here's a hint. What Orwell wrote about in 1984 really has nothing to do with any sort of divide within our party politics. Orwell illustrated this by setting his nightmare society within a perversion of the system he believed in. Authoritarianism, and the regimentation of thought, are the enemy, no matter what quarter they approach from.

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RE: NRO's John Derbyshire's incredibly racist advice to... - 4/8/2012 6:15:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		And anti intellectualism......and the championing of it....... were also main themes.

Which looks an awful lot like Joe the plumber,Sarah Palin,your fundie-friends and the anti-science section of the GOP and calling the president a snob for wanting to send more folks to college.

One of the most brutal examples of this arrogance and abuse was when bush was really really fucking up,beyond FUBAR...... anything he touched and when someone normal would ask him about it.....bush would say something putrid like "we`ll have to wait and see what history says about my administration....."


Basically saying he didn`t give a fuck what people thought about him,now or later.


Little fuck that bush......piece of crap is still hiding, I see.


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RE: NRO's John Derbyshire's incredibly racist advice to... - 4/8/2012 6:20:46 PM   
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RE: NRO's John Derbyshire's incredibly racist advice to... - 4/8/2012 7:02:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well.....if it walks like a duck...and talks like a duck....and looks like a duck......it`s probably a duck.You`re the one who has a problem with bush.


Another corner stone of anti-intellectualism is denial of the unfortunate consequences their conduct has caused......45 hundred dead GIs.....the great recession,the exacerbation and unnecessary prolonging of the Afghan mission....making our proud nation...a torture nation.....like the soviets,the Chinese communists and every savage on the planet.


Your issues isn`t so much the knowledge of the facts as it is dishonesty.Intellectual dishonesty.


Corrected:with the help of my buddy Kirata......








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RE: NRO's John Derbyshire's incredibly racist advice to... - 4/8/2012 7:06:59 PM   
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You got to have some morals to do that.

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RE: NRO's John Derbyshire's incredibly racist advice to... - 4/8/2012 7:12:14 PM   
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Well.....if it walks like a duck...and talks like a duck....and looks like a duck......it`s probably a duct.

You bought one of those new keyboards with the "t" next to the "k" eh?

K.

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RE: NRO's John Derbyshire's incredibly racist advice to... - 4/8/2012 7:27:03 PM   
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Well.....if it walks like a duck...and talks like a duck....and looks like a duck......it`s probably a duct.

You bought one of those new keyboards with the "t" next to the "k" eh?

K.


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RE: NRO's John Derbyshire's incredibly racist advice to... - 4/8/2012 7:29:29 PM   
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Funny how the Republicans (every single one of them) can do nothing but lie about Obama's record instead of presenting ideas of their own. I'm not happy with Obama but he has accomplished some of the things he promised us in his campaign.


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