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ORIGINAL: Paladin9
The extreme rate hikes are due to Obombacare. Obombacare pretty much requires insurers to carry everyone regardless of health condition and cover it.
Prove it. I'm assuming you read the whole Affordable Care Act? All 2409 pages?
There's alot covered in those 2409 pages, and I'm sure your a 'responsible American' whom did his/her 'duty' to both read and understand the document, right? Cus only a moron would let others feed him/her information second or third hand. In fact, not reading it, but then blasting against it shows just how lazy you really are....
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ORIGINAL: Paladin9
That's why HI is expensive in CA vs Miss. In Miss you can be canceled, refused coverage for certain ailments for short or long periods of time, etc. No so in CA so we pay for that.
And right here in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 98.6% of US Citizens whom are citizens of the commonwealth, have access to good quality health care that is not expensive. The difference between MA and the other 49 states is....the citizens MAKE THE LAWS. The other 49 states are pretty much controlled by special interest and lobbying groups. Your rates are going up, because you have thrown in the metaphorical towel and allowed the insurance companies to just walk all over you.
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The thing to remember is ANYTHING run by the govt is inefficient and costly and no one in govt is responsible for any screwups. See medicare and SS.
So the five branchs of our military are "...inefficient and costly..."? The FBI, CIA, NSA, and the US Marshals are "...inefficient and costly..."? Generally, conservatives blame Democrats, liberals blame Republicans and independants blame both Democrats and Republicans for screw ups. In theory, we change this by voting people out of office in favor of people we believe will be responsible with the role.
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ORIGINAL: Paladin9
Socialized medicine is in most other developed countries to the bane of it's citizens. Take to a Canadian citizen about their wait times to see a dr, then months to see a specialist. By the time they get to the specialist many times it's too late to help.
Do you even know what that word means, 'socialized', without looking it up? All those countries have very different view points than here in America. They look at firearm ownership with distaste, while here in America, one has easier access to them than mental health services! Here in America, with private health insurance companies, a patient has to see their primary care doctor (which can take two or more weeks to see) before gaining access to a specialist a few more weeks later. With Mass Health (that's Romneycare to you), I saw a specialist for a ear problem the day after saw my physician. The medication cost me $3, while someone without insurance would have paid $28.50.
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ORIGINAL: Paladin9
My sister in law lives in Austria, She was over 5 years going to Drs and wore a patch in the back of her head before a young Dr found out she had a tick. See recently went in for having trouble breathing, over 2 weeks to find out she need a shunt in a heart vessel. The surgery kept getting postponed as she kept getting infections, even her daughter got a virus visiting her, (maybe they need to quit recycling the air) finally after 5 months they did the operation, she was physically shot due to being in the hosp for so long, They said the surgery was successful, she died 3 weeks later. Gotta love socialized medicine.
I'm honestly sorry to hear about your sister in law. If your going to blame the Affordable Care Act so harshly for what happened to your sister in law in a completely different country, with different rules and customs; why didnt you bring her here to the States and pay for the treatment yourself? Out of your own pocket? I'm guessing you feel the need to blame someone else, because you were to afraid to take responsbility yourself. Didnt you just get done bitching above, to why people dont take responsibility for screw ups? The reason why should than be obvious: its painful, it hurts, and is undesirable to live through. If anything, take this as a chance to make sure someone else's sister-in-law doesnt fall through the cracks! The ACA (or the original concept of it) could only be made better, if the American people wish it to be better. Its made better, because we as Americans understand when the current system of health care does us more harm than good.
Now that is interesting.
1) The left points to foreign countries that have national heathcare and say "see, it works great and everyone loves it" as support for Obamacare.
2) Then, when someone actually from that country tells them the truth they dis them, even suggesting they should have spent great amounts of money to bring them out of that Obamacare like healthcare system into the Pre-Obama healthcare system here.
3) They then finish with kudos for Obamacare.
Now that is very interesting. It almost like Obama saying Obamacare was passed by a large majority when it in fact was not. I suppose the word fact has a different meaning to the Left. I suppose truth is relative to the Left. I am thinking one cannot reason with such an outlook.
< Message edited by Arturas -- 4/6/2012 6:35:37 AM >
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