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kalikshama -> Tell the Senate before tomorrow's vote: "Leave health care decisions to patients and their doctors. (2/14/2012 1:15:49 PM)

...Don't allow employers' personal beliefs to restrict access to medical care for their employees."

Republicans in Congress want to put your boss right in your bedroom, deciding whether you have access to contraception and even what kind you can use—and the Senate's voting on it tomorrow. It's Senator Roy Blunt's radical response to President Obama's balanced approach to ensuring that women have access to birth control coverage.1

Senator Blunt wants to let any employer deny coverage for any health care treatment to which they claim a religious or moral objection. That means your employer could claim an objection to almost any kind of medical treatment: contraception, HIV treatment, vaccination, substance-abuse counseling, blood transfusions, prenatal care for unmarried women, or mental health care, just to name a few.2

We can stop the Blunt amendment and future attacks on health care access if we insist that our Senators leave medical decisions where they belong: in the hands of doctors and patients. But we have to act before tomorrow's crucial vote.

Sing the petition: http://pol.moveon.org/healthcoverage/

The Blunt amendment was proposed to get around the new health care rule that ensures all women have access to contraception coverage, no matter who they work for.3 Under the guise of "religious freedom" the Republicans are attacking the very idea of comprehensive health insurance.4

Having someone else's beliefs dictate your ability to get care isn't religious freedom—and it isn't good for workers, families, or public health and safety.

And this is just the latest in a long-running series of attacks on health care reform, women's health care, and reproductive choice.5 We have to stop these attacks once and for all by bringing attention to the real issue. It comes down to one simple thing: Your employer's religion shouldn't decide what medical treatment you're able to get.

Sources:

1. "GOP Tries to Add Contraception Repeal Language to Transportation Bill," ABC News, February 9, 2012
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=271213&id=35767-19913921-aIpaWQx&t=4

2. "GOP Ups The Ante, Introduces Legislation To Allow Any Employer To Deny Any Preventive Health Service," ThinkProgress, February 10, 2012
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=271211&id=35767-19913921-aIpaWQx&t=5

3. "Obama to Announce Contraception Rule 'Accommodation' for Religious Organizations," ABC News, February 10, 2012
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=271214&id=35767-19913921-aIpaWQx&t=6

4. "The Blunt Amendment Takes Away Access to Critical Health Insurance Coverage for Millions of Americans," National Women's Law Center, February 10, 2012
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=271212&id=35767-19913921-aIpaWQx&t=7

"GOP Backs 'Moral Conviction' Waiver for All Insurance Coverage," The Wall Street Journal, February 13, 2012
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=271215&id=35767-19913921-aIpaWQx&t=8

5. "House Republicans Launch New Attacks On Health Law Regulations," Kaiser Health News, September 16, 2011
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=271224&id=35767-19913921-aIpaWQx&t=9

"The GOP's 10 Most Extreme Attacks On A Woman's Right To Choose An Abortion," ThinkProgress, December 27, 2011
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=271220&id=35767-19913921-aIpaWQx&t=10



Iamsemisweet -> RE: Tell the Senate before tomorrow's vote: "Leave health care decisions to patients and their doctors. (2/14/2012 1:18:00 PM)

My god. What has happened to this country?



MyGarage -> RE: Tell the Senate before tomorrow's vote: "Leave health care decisions to patients and their doctors. (2/14/2012 1:22:50 PM)

REally. The First Amendment has been trashed.

Obama should have been impeached when he signed that garbage.



Lucylastic -> RE: Tell the Senate before tomorrow's vote: "Leave health care decisions to patients and their doctors. (2/14/2012 1:27:37 PM)

How has the first amendment been trashed, and what possible "reason" is there to impeach Obama on WHAT?



itsSIRtou -> RE: Tell the Senate before tomorrow's vote: "Leave health care decisions to patients and their doctors. (2/14/2012 1:31:56 PM)

REALLY? but its not in the hands of Doctors or u.... its in the hands of the hopsital adminstators who make ten times or more what the Doc's makes without lifting a Q-tip. who really makes the calls on what care gets made. If u dont have to money u die because the CEO says so.

there's allway been "death squads".... their called health insureance companies & CEO's


the alternative to obama's plan is nothing.... nothing but health car costs continuing to spiral out of control for the middle class and the poor.



Lucylastic -> RE: Tell the Senate before tomorrow's vote: "Leave health care decisions to patients and their doctors. (2/14/2012 1:32:45 PM)

To the OP. I hope the best comes out of it.There is no way ANY bodies religious beliefs should be able to interfere with MY rights over my body or MY beliefs.



RacerJim -> RE: Tell the Senate before tomorrow's vote: "Leave health care decisions to patients and their doctors. (2/14/2012 1:37:37 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

How has the first amendment been trashed, and what possible "reason" is there to impeach Obama on WHAT?


You know full well the answers to those questions, you just don't want to admit it.



RacerJim -> RE: Tell the Senate before tomorrow's vote: "Leave health care decisions to patients and their doctors. (2/14/2012 1:39:53 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

To the OP. I hope the best comes out of it.There is no way ANY bodies religious beliefs should be able to interfere with MY rights over my body or MY beliefs.

And there's no way ANYBODY'S ideological beliefs should be able to make everyone else pay for them.



Lucylastic -> RE: Tell the Senate before tomorrow's vote: "Leave health care decisions to patients and their doctors. (2/14/2012 1:46:07 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: RacerJim


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

How has the first amendment been trashed, and what possible "reason" is there to impeach Obama on WHAT?


You know full well the answers to those questions, you just don't want to admit it.

you really havent been paying attention have you.



Lucylastic -> RE: Tell the Senate before tomorrow's vote: "Leave health care decisions to patients and their doctors. (2/14/2012 1:49:39 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: RacerJim


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

To the OP. I hope the best comes out of it.There is no way ANY bodies religious beliefs should be able to interfere with MY rights over my body or MY beliefs.

And there's no way ANYBODY'S ideological beliefs should be able to make everyone else pay for them.

That money is all you care about over a womans basic HUMAN rights, says much more about you than anything I could say.



Iamsemisweet -> RE: Tell the Senate before tomorrow's vote: "Leave health care decisions to patients and their doctors. (2/14/2012 2:12:14 PM)


The fact that both sides are outraged says it all. As a nation we have nothing in common. Time to surrender our vanity that we are the world's leader, and try to pick up the pieces. I certainly don't feel any kinship with people who think like you, garbage.
quote:

ORIGINAL: MyGarage

REally. The First Amendment has been trashed.
,
Obama should have been impeached when he signed that garbage.



Iamsemisweet -> RE: Tell the Senate before tomorrow's vote: "Leave health care decisions to patients and their doctors. (2/14/2012 2:15:26 PM)


I ended up paying for two wars I detested and thought were immoral. Are you as outraged that I had to pay for someone's "ideology"?
quote:

ORIGINAL: RacerJim




And there's no way ANYBODY'S ideological beliefs should be able to make everyone else pay for them.



Lucylastic -> RE: Tell the Senate before tomorrow's vote: "Leave health care decisions to patients and their doctors. (2/14/2012 2:17:25 PM)

Theres that toooo!!!
!!!!



mnottertail -> RE: Tell the Senate before tomorrow's vote: "Leave health care decisions to patients and their doctors. (2/14/2012 2:17:47 PM)

Regarding the link to Kaiser......well just fuck them, big donor to Nixon and Tricky got HMO legislation passed as a payoff, a big source of our healthcare abomination...(an excerpt)

This is a transcript of the 1971 conversation between President Richard Nixon and John D. Ehrlichman that led to the HMO act of 1973:
John D. Ehrlichman: “On the … on the health business …”
President Nixon: “Yeah.”
Ehrlichman: “… we have now narrowed down the vice president’s problems on this thing to one issue and that is whether we should include these health maintenance organizations like Edgar Kaiser’s Permanente thing. The vice president just cannot see it. We tried 15 ways from Friday to explain it to him and then help him to understand it. He finally says, ‘Well, I don’t think they’ll work, but if the President thinks it’s a good idea, I’ll support him a hundred percent.’”
President Nixon: “Well, what’s … what’s the judgment?”
Ehrlichman: “Well, everybody else’s judgment very strongly is that we go with it.”
President Nixon: “All right.”
Ehrlichman: “And, uh, uh, he’s the one holdout that we have in the whole office.”
President Nixon: “Say that I … I … I’d tell him I have doubts about it, but I think that it’s, uh, now let me ask you, now you give me your judgment. You know I’m not too keen on any of these damn medical programs.”
Ehrlichman: “This, uh, let me, let me tell you how I am …”
President Nixon: [Unclear.]
Ehrlichman: “This … this is a …”
President Nixon: “I don’t [unclear] …”
Ehrlichman: “… private enterprise one.”
President Nixon: “Well, that appeals to me.”
Ehrlichman: “Edgar Kaiser is running his Permanente deal for profit. And the reason that he can … the reason he can do it … I had Edgar Kaiser come in … talk to me about this and I went into it in some depth. All the incentives are toward less medical care, because …”
President Nixon: [Unclear.]
Ehrlichman: “… the less care they give them, the more money they make.”
President Nixon: “Fine.” [Unclear.]
Ehrlichman: [Unclear] “… and the incentives run the right way.”
President Nixon: “Not bad.”



DaddySatyr -> RE: Tell the Senate before tomorrow's vote: "Leave health care decisions to patients and their doctors. (2/14/2012 2:25:34 PM)

Is there another way to sign the petition? I will not have anything to do with moveon.org?



Peace and comfort,



Michael



MyGarage -> RE: Tell the Senate before tomorrow's vote: "Leave health care decisions to patients and their doctors. (2/14/2012 3:13:47 PM)

Thank you, RacerJim, Times Two!




MyGarage -> RE: Tell the Senate before tomorrow's vote: "Leave health care decisions to patients and their doctors. (2/14/2012 3:17:37 PM)

I hope Obama gets re-elected, just so we can see the whole damn edifice fall down, and then all the "mentally challenged" will be so busy trying to figure out how to survive and find food, they won't have time or money or a computer to be sitting here all self-righteous about what they WANT from other people's pockets!

HooRAY!!!!



mnottertail -> RE: Tell the Senate before tomorrow's vote: "Leave health care decisions to patients and their doctors. (2/14/2012 3:21:33 PM)

What will you be doing then?

BTW, this is not about your being the survival of the fittest guy with a keyboard....
it is about the vote tomorrow on a piece of legislation dealing with a republican move to get into your personal life at great cost to taxpayers rather than focus on the deficit they created.



Lucylastic -> RE: Tell the Senate before tomorrow's vote: "Leave health care decisions to patients and their doctors. (2/14/2012 3:33:41 PM)

Right there is the reason debate has dried up.
People not listening to the change in guidelines and repeating previous consistencies



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