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RE: New Komen petitions - for Handel to be fired and to... - 2/6/2012 6:59:30 PM   
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Is Susan G. Komen Denying the BPA-Breast Cancer Link?

Critics claim the leading breast cancer research group is in the pocket of its BPA-happy sponsors.

...it's hard to ignore mounting scientific evidence that strongly suggests a link between BPA and cancer. The United States' President's Cancer Panel concluded in 2010 that "more than 130 studies have linked BPA to breast cancer, obesity, and other health problems."

A number of studies have found that the chemical causes breast cancer in lab animals. In human cell cultures, BPA has caused breast cancer cells to proliferate and has also reduced the effectiveness of chemotherapy. In September, a study by the California Pacific Medical Center found that BPA even made healthy breast cells behave like cancer cells and decreased the effectiveness of yet another breast cancer drug.

Frighteningly, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says that BPA is in the urine of more than 90 percent of the United States population. Researchers believe this figure reflects continuous exposure to the chemical.

...The list of Komen sponsors that use BPA include the Coca-Cola Bottling Company (which says BPA is safe, but that it is nonetheless looking for alternatives for its canned soda) and General Mills, which still uses the chemical in most canned foods but did recently introduce BPA-free organic tomato cans. Another sponsor is Georgia-Pacific, a subsidiary of famously anti-regulation Koch Industries and major manufacturer of epoxy resins that contain BPA.

Another manufacturing company, 3M, maker of of Scotch Tape, has donated more than $1 million since 2007 and is a member of the American Chemistry Council, a powerful trade group that argues that BPA is safe. Komen also has a partnership with DS Waters, which delivers the type of water bottle cooler that you're likely to find in an office setting, The bottles get a pink cap for the Komen partnership, but Komen doesn't mention that those pink-topped bottles are made from polycarbonate plastic that contains BPA.

...Komen's downplaying of the link between chemicals and cancer isn't limited to BPA; the foundation also lists exposure to organochlorine pesticides, a category that includes the infamous DDT, as one of six "Factors That Do Not Increase Risk." But like BPA, many pesticides have estrogen-like traits. A 2007 study published in Environmental Health Perspectives even suggested that women exposed to DDT as adolescents were five times more likely to develop breast cancer during adulthood.

Komen's position on chemicals' role in cancer reflects a larger debate within the public-health community over the importance of addressing the influence of environmental factors on cancer. Only about 10 percent of cases of breast cancer in the United States can be traced to hereditary factors, research shows. "We now know from just a whole lot of science that environmental variables have a strong influence on gene expression," said Dr. Ted Schettler, Science Director of the Science and Environmental Health Network.

Yet scientists, including the President's Cancer Panel report released in 2010, say that research on the environment and cancer as a whole remains grossly underfunded. "There traditionally has been tremendous resistance to looking at environmental issues. And that's because there are very powerful interest groups lobbying against doing that," vom Saal said...


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RE: New Komen petitions - for Handel to be fired and to... - 2/6/2012 11:38:44 PM   
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"...play politics with women's lives..."

Sheesh. Overly dramatic much?

Man, I'm sure glad ordinary citizens aren't forced via the public eye to make "charitable" donations or publicly shamed when we made the "oh-so-ghastly" decision not to donate.

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RE: New Komen petitions - for Handel to be fired and to... - 2/7/2012 12:44:16 AM   
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I suppose you would not see the hypocrisy between Komen pulling funds from Planned Parenthood, yet continuing to fund Penn State to the amount of 7.4 million dollars.

But.. allow me to help you...

Susan G. Komen for the Cure, which recently announced that it is ending grants to Planned Parenthood for breast cancer screening because of a controversial investigation launched by an anti-abortion Republican congressman, currently funds cancer research at the Penn State Milton S. Hershey Medical Center to the tune of $7.5 million. Like Planned Parenthood, Penn State is currently the subject of a federal government investigation, and like the Planned Parenthood grant, the Penn State grant appears to violate a new internal rule at Komen that bans grants to organizations that are under investigation by federal, state, or local governments. But so far, only the Planned Parenthood grants appear to have been cancelled.

An internal Komen memo written by President Elizabeth Thompson and obtained by Jeffrey Goldberg of The Atlantic states that if "an applicant or its affiliates" is under investigation "for financial or administrative improprieties by local, state or federal authorities," then "the applicant will be ineligible to receive a grant." Penn State, the Pennsylvania university that the Hershey center is affiliated with, is currently under investigation by the federal government over the sexual assault scandal involving former assistant coach Jerry Sandusky, who has been indicted on multiple counts of sexual abuse of children. In 2008, the Komen foundation awarded a five-year, $7.5 million grant to the Hershey center to study treatments that could reduce the risk of breast cancer.




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RE: New Komen petitions - for Handel to be fired and to... - 2/7/2012 12:52:47 AM   
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quote:

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I suppose you would not see the hypocrisy between Komen pulling funds from Planned Parenthood, yet continuing to fund Penn State to the amount of 7.4 million dollars.

But.. allow me to help you...


Hypocrisy lol. Everyone's got a healthy dose of that these days. Why should they be any different?

Furthermore, you want to talk hypocrisy? Let's do that. Suppose a conservative woman, very pro-life and anti-abortion, also wants to help stamp out breast cancer. She donates to this organization which, in turn, makes donations to planned parenthood... something lil' miss conservative is vehemently against. Now the funds from the conservative woman, who was just trying to help fight breast cancer, are potentially being used for abortions, which go against her religion. (Just because funds are given under the auspices of one program doesn't mean they can't just as easily fill the coffers for other programs in the same organization.)

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RE: New Komen petitions - for Handel to be fired and to... - 2/7/2012 1:02:15 AM   
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Cancer... breast cancer... is not a political issue. Never has been, never should have been.

(Just because funds are given under the auspices of one program doesn't mean they can't just as easily fill the coffers for other programs in the same organization.)

And just because funds are given under the auspices of one program doesnt mean they will be used to fill the coffers of another program in the same organization. When you have proof of that happening, do get back to us with that proof.


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RE: New Komen petitions - for Handel to be fired and to... - 2/7/2012 1:11:51 AM   
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quote:

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Cancer... breast cancer... is not a political issue. Never has been, never should have been.


No one ever said it was. But abortion and abortion-funding organizations will always be.

quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
And just because funds are given under the auspices of one program doesnt mean they will be used to fill the coffers of another program in the same organization. When you have proof of that happening, do get back to us with that proof.


I don't need proof, and neither does lil' miss conservative. All that need be present is perception. Some people don't even want the *chance* that their money could be used for things they are against. Some are so hopelessly religiously conservative, they don't even want their donation going to that organization. To have a breast cancer organization donate to another organization like that is incredibly deceptive.

I would not want to donate to a testicular cancer organization only to find out they, in turn, donated to the komen organization.

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RE: New Komen petitions - for Handel to be fired and to... - 2/7/2012 2:12:36 AM   
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quote:

I don't need proof, and neither does lil' miss conservative. All that need be present is perception. Some people don't even want the *chance* that their money could be used for things they are against. Some are so hopelessly religiously conservative, they don't even want their donation going to that organization. To have a breast cancer organization donate to another organization like that is incredibly deceptive.

I would not want to donate to a testicular cancer organization only to find out they, in turn, donated to the komen organization.


Then dont. No one is saying you have too. No one is saying the lil miss conservative has to either. There are plenty of options. This has nothing to do with miss lil conservative.

This has to do with a statement made by an organization who was discovered to be breaking its own governing rules.

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RE: New Komen petitions - for Handel to be fired and to... - 2/7/2012 2:37:08 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DarqueMirror

quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
I suppose you would not see the hypocrisy between Komen pulling funds from Planned Parenthood, yet continuing to fund Penn State to the amount of 7.4 million dollars.

But.. allow me to help you...


Hypocrisy lol. Everyone's got a healthy dose of that these days. Why should they be any different?

Furthermore, you want to talk hypocrisy? Let's do that. Suppose a conservative woman, very pro-life and anti-abortion, also wants to help stamp out breast cancer. She donates to this organization which, in turn, makes donations to planned parenthood... something lil' miss conservative is vehemently against. Now the funds from the conservative woman, who was just trying to help fight breast cancer, are potentially being used for abortions, which go against her religion. (Just because funds are given under the auspices of one program doesn't mean they can't just as easily fill the coffers for other programs in the same organization.)

ALL money is fungible. If she our lil miss religious conservative [sic] (gambles on weekends, cheats on her taxes and her husband) that is, gives to a research non-profit should know where the money goes. Then before giving anything...she doesn't.

Oh and kinkroids, do not look for a cure to cancer anytime soon...if ever. Cancer is a $2 billion/yr. profit center, so, we will forever be...treating cancer.

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RE: New Komen petitions - for Handel to be fired and to... - 2/7/2012 8:20:28 AM   
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She resigned!!!!

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RE: New Komen petitions - for Handel to be fired and to... - 2/7/2012 8:30:17 AM   
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Komen vice president Karen Handel resigns

“At the November Board meeting, the Board received a detailed review of the new model and related criteria. As you will recall, the Board specifically discussed various issues, including the need to protect our mission by ensuring we were not distracted or negatively affected by any other organization’s real or perceived challenges. No objections were made to moving forward.

I am deeply disappointed by the gross mischaracterizations of the strategy, its rationale, and my involvement in it. I openly acknowledge my role in the matter and continue to believe our decision was the best one for Komen’s future and the women we serve. However, the decision to update our granting model was made before I joined Komen, and the controversy related to Planned Parenthood has long been a concern to the organization. Neither the decision nor the changes themselves were based on anyone’s political beliefs or ideology. Rather, both were based on Komen’s mission and how to better serve women, as well as a realization of the need to distance Komen from controversy. I believe that Komen, like any other nonprofit organization, has the right and the responsibility to set criteria and highest standards for how and to whom it grants.

What was a thoughtful and thoroughly reviewed decision – one that would have indeed enabled Komen to deliver even greater community impact – has unfortunately been turned into something about politics. This is entirely untrue. This development should sadden us all greatly.

Just as Komen’s best interests and the fight against breast cancer have always been foremost in every aspect of my work, so too are these my priorities in coming to the decision to resign effective immediately. While I appreciate your raising a possible severance package, I respectfully decline. It is my most sincere hope that Komen is allowed to now refocus its attention and energies on its mission.”

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RE: New Komen petitions - for Handel to be fired and to... - 2/7/2012 8:33:51 AM   
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Noted Liar Karen Handel Defensively Resigns From Komen

That Karen Handel is a lying liar of the highest order, spewing exactly the sort of bullshit we've come to expect from Komen in the last week. A famously, rabidly anti-choice politician enters an organization and spearheads a push to defund a pro-choice organization? How is that a mischaracterization? Again, Karen Handel thinks we are all dumb.

Further, if Komen thinks that Handel's resignation is an "exit strategy" to the controversy they've drummed up in the last week, they're even more out of touch than they appeared when Nancy Brinker lied to Andrea Mitchell on the air during her Damage Control Tour 2012. Critical eyes are turned to Komen, and there's a lot more to this story yet to unfold.

But in the meantime, good riddance to a person who is surely destined to become an anti-abortion rights folk hero for her irresponsible, dishonest policking and famously valuing proto-life over living, breathing women.

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RE: New Komen petitions - for Handel to be fired and to... - 2/7/2012 8:54:47 AM   
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QR....

Komen's going to be paying for years for the damage done by this debacle and the subsequent dirt-digging that's now occurring on any past misdeeds.

Perhaps even still-willing donors might think about giving to an organization that spends 17.4% of its funds on administrative and fundraising expenses (via Charity Navigator here:  http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=4509).



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RE: New Komen petitions - for Handel to be fired and to... - 2/7/2012 6:44:21 PM   
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You wanted her gone and she left. So sorry they couldn't stone her on the way out, but that's life sometimes.

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RE: New Komen petitions - for Handel to be fired and to... - 2/7/2012 6:47:48 PM   
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Hold on here....Komen is a private organization (based on private donations).

If they want to support making cupcakes in the outer banks of Russia....WT FLYING F???????

Who the hell is ANYONE to say what the hell they can do with their goddamn $$$$?

(Sorry....I missed something integral here....private org.....their money....you don't mean shit....including your opinions....so.....)

WTF??????



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RE: New Komen petitions - for Handel to be fired and to... - 2/7/2012 6:50:38 PM   
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quote:

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Hold on here....Komen is a private organization (based on private donations).

If they want to support making cupcakes in the outer banks of Russia....WT FLYING F???????

Who the hell is ANYONE to say what the hell they can do with their $$$$?

(Sorry....I missed something integral here....private org.....their money....you don't mean shit....including your opinions....so.....)

WTF??????



The donors call the shots.

The donors decided she needed to go.

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RE: New Komen petitions - for Handel to be fired and to... - 2/7/2012 6:54:55 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


quote:

ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie

Hold on here....Komen is a private organization (based on private donations).

If they want to support making cupcakes in the outer banks of Russia....WT FLYING F???????

Who the hell is ANYONE to say what the hell they can do with their $$$$?

(Sorry....I missed something integral here....private org.....their money....you don't mean shit....including your opinions....so.....)

WTF??????



The donors call the shots.

The donors decided she needed to go.


But the media doesn't.

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RE: New Komen petitions - for Handel to be fired and to... - 2/7/2012 6:57:10 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie


quote:

ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


quote:

ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie

Hold on here....Komen is a private organization (based on private donations).

If they want to support making cupcakes in the outer banks of Russia....WT FLYING F???????

Who the hell is ANYONE to say what the hell they can do with their $$$$?

(Sorry....I missed something integral here....private org.....their money....you don't mean shit....including your opinions....so.....)

WTF??????



The donors call the shots.

The donors decided she needed to go.


But the media doesn't.

The media doesn't pay the bills. Donors launched an email campaign. The pink ribbon ladies saw the writing on the wall. Ditch her or you'll all be out of a job.

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RE: New Komen petitions - for Handel to be fired and to... - 2/7/2012 7:19:06 PM   
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as a donor, ...as a supporter, yeah damn straight I have the right to complain about their "choices" and decisions
stoning her? good god, dont be bloody ridiculous.
you sound like the sane ones posts


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RE: New Komen petitions - for Handel to be fired and to... - 2/7/2012 8:45:08 PM   
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quote:

But the media doesn't.


The media didnt. The donors did in two ways.

1) calling for the removal of Handel via petitions, emails and phone calls.
2) donations of 250,000 from a single and very outspoken source directly to PP. And 400,000+ donations from the public straight to PP in 24 hours.


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RE: New Komen petitions - for Handel to be fired and to... - 2/7/2012 8:50:15 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie

Hold on here....Komen is a private organization (based on private donations).

If they want to support making cupcakes in the outer banks of Russia....WT FLYING F???????

Who the hell is ANYONE to say what the hell they can do with their goddamn $$$$?

(Sorry....I missed something integral here....private org.....their money....you don't mean shit....including your opinions....so.....)

WTF??????




Donors voted with their dollars.

Great example of organic democracy....eh?

Do you think they reversed course b/c of bad press?


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