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subrob1967 -> RE: Rick Santorum says don't send your kids to college (1/27/2012 10:43:09 AM)

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ORIGINAL: fucktoyprincess


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ORIGINAL: SomeCdnGuy

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Unemployment rates are twice as high for those with only a high school education as compared to the college educated.
You know, I think this could work out alright. Let me explain.
A) Republicans don't send there kids to college
B) Many of those kids end up unemployed
C) Those unemployed kids turn to welfare to get by
D) They realize that welfare is not some cushy gravy train, but an essential program
E) They change their basic viewpoint and become....LIBERALS!!!!

See, a win-win.



I'm glad someone understood my sense of humor.



Actually Republican kids go to college, network, join Skull & Bones and become CEO's thanks to Daddy's connections, and networking...

It's the Liberal kids who grow up loving Marx, Guevara, and are asking if you would like fries with that liberal arts degree after toking up like the brain dead morons they are..



Musicmystery -> RE: Rick Santorum says don't send your kids to college (1/27/2012 10:51:22 AM)

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Republican kids go to college... and become CEO's thanks to Daddy's connections,


A subtlety Rick left off.



Hillwilliam -> RE: Rick Santorum says don't send your kids to college (1/27/2012 1:40:30 PM)


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ORIGINAL: subrob1967

Actually Republican kids go to college, network, join Skull & Bones and become CEO's thanks to Daddy's connections, and networking...


TY for the implications that "Daddy's Connections" is more important than intelligence.

We got a president that way and it didn't work out too damn well did it?



Aylee -> RE: Rick Santorum says don't send your kids to college (1/27/2012 1:59:02 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


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ORIGINAL: subrob1967

Actually Republican kids go to college, network, join Skull & Bones and become CEO's thanks to Daddy's connections, and networking...


TY for the implications that "Daddy's Connections" is more important than intelligence.

We got a president that way and it didn't work out too damn well did it?


Yes, it is rather horrible that JFK was assassinated.



slvemike4u -> RE: Rick Santorum says don't send your kids to college (1/27/2012 2:04:23 PM)

Without a doubt JFK was the beneficiary of his fathers largess,but I think we all know the President in question was named Bush.Now you will never hear me state that it was a shame he wasn't assassinated,but we damm sure did pay one hell of a price having him serve out two complete terms .
Just sayin.....



hlen5 -> RE: Rick Santorum says don't send your kids to college (1/27/2012 2:55:05 PM)

I don't know if anyone has covered it yet, but Santorum follows the ideas that are reported on in "The Family" and "C Street" by Jeff Sharlet.

The philosophy (as I understand it) is the US is going down the tubes and using seven pillars of public access the media, entertaiment and I forget what else, they can bring the rapture to pass.



slvemike4u -> RE: Rick Santorum says don't send your kids to college (1/27/2012 3:00:27 PM)

There is something to wish for...the end of days [:)]



Musicmystery -> RE: Rick Santorum says don't send your kids to college (1/27/2012 3:08:12 PM)

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There is something to wish for...the end of days


It would at least explain their reckless policies.



Slavehandsome -> RE: Rick Santorum says don't send your kids to college (1/27/2012 3:10:27 PM)

George W. Bush said "get out there and spend" immediately following Sept 11th, 2001. Knowing that our economy was about to go down the tubes, that was not good advice. One more lie.



slvemike4u -> RE: Rick Santorum says don't send your kids to college (1/27/2012 3:11:16 PM)

As a matter of fact,were this to be guaranteed,there would be no call to be worried where those reckless policies are concerned.Seeing as I neither believe,now would I welcome such a calamity....I tend to get distressed over this shit .
But that's just me [8|]



MyBeckAndCallBoy -> RE: Rick Santorum says don't send your kids to college (1/27/2012 3:19:50 PM)

I'm educated, with an advanced degree from a highly rated school that's a little hard to get into. I know this from my colleagues that didn't make it. :)

I've been a Rick Santorum supporter since I started watching the debates last summer. I have, for lack of a better term, "customers" that have $100k in student debt, and are working at a golf course renting out the golf carts. No money to pay the debt - or rent, for that matter.

Not every one is cut out for college. Vo-tech is great for many.

As far as the indoctrination of the higher ed institutions, I'm afraid it's true. I had conversations with the department head and the university president about one professor in particular who was wasting my hard-earned tuition. They told me they were getting rid of him. It was the WORST at the graduate level. There, almost half of all the professors were Marxists of one stripe or another. What a waste of time.

As far as Santorum, he believes in real freedom for Americans, not pretend freedom. And when it comes to marriage, I totally agree with him, ironically, in part, because I met someone here who was abused as a child, and the effects on him have been profound and permanent. Marriage isn't for adults, it's for children. And when you decide it's okay for children to be raised in dysfunctional homes, you're basically saying you don't care if that child has a chance or not.

I care. So does Rick Santorum.

He's consistent. I admire him. He works hard. He's exhausted. And he's for true freedom, not some pretend thing that Pelosi wants to peddle. "You have to pass the bill before you can read it." He pushed Health Savings Accounts, the Partial Birth Abortion ban, the Infants Born Alive bill, and is in favor of zero tax for manufacturers to try to bring our industrial base back from overseas.

A good man. An admirable man.



Musicmystery -> RE: Rick Santorum says don't send your kids to college (1/27/2012 3:33:38 PM)

So in other words, you were NOT indoctrinated.



slvemike4u -> RE: Rick Santorum says don't send your kids to college (1/27/2012 3:56:43 PM)

Mybeckandcallboy,I wish I knew where to begin.
As it is I don't,and seeing as you sound comfortable in your state of willful ignorance,who am I to disabuse you of your oh so many misconceptions.
Good luck with all of that [8|]



MyBeckAndCallBoy -> RE: Rick Santorum says don't send your kids to college (1/27/2012 4:02:21 PM)

Well, let's just say the department head had some words for my perspective. Of course, I went to school a little later than many, so I was more mature than the wet-behind-the-ears crowd.

Compounding that, I read constantly as a child. Constantly. In grade school and high school, I read things that I later found on on the course syllabi in college. Just because I found them interesting. :)

I am a very smart person. ;^) And VERY independent. VERY.



Iamsemisweet -> RE: Rick Santorum says don't send your kids to college (1/27/2012 4:27:01 PM)

I was wondering who supported Santorum and now I know.  You.  Lotsa luck with that. 
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ORIGINAL: MyBeckAndCallBoy

Well, let's just say the department head had some words for my perspective. Of course, I went to school a little later than many, so I was more mature than the wet-behind-the-ears crowd.

Compounding that, I read constantly as a child. Constantly. In grade school and high school, I read things that I later found on on the course syllabi in college. Just because I found them interesting. :)

I am a very smart person. ;^) And VERY independent. VERY.



popeye1250 -> RE: Rick Santorum says don't send your kids to college (1/27/2012 4:45:45 PM)


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There are too many kids going to college today; more kids at school getting more students loans, which drives tuition up even further. It also devalues the degrees.

A Bachelors Degree used to actually mean something, but now it's worthless - it means nothing because every idiot in the country has one now. I feel sorry for those poor saps that were duped by the educational establishment to go into massive debt for that worthless degree. A Bachelors Degree today from 'Bumble-Fuck University' is the equivalent of a High School Diploma back in the 1950's. A Bachelors Degree used to be something to be proud of... no longer, it's expected that you have one; just like a High School Diploma used to be. This scenario is somewhat similar to the Prisoners Dilemma.

Compound that with the fact that getting a degree in the social sciences today is just ensuring that you graduate even more intellectually confused regarding your subject of study. The fields of study should be re-named: Anthropology and Sociology to Cultural Marxism; History to Historical Dialectical Materialism; and Economics to Neo-Synthesis Saltwater Keynesianism.

Being "more educated" simply means that you're a Cultural Marxist in the social sphere and a Keynesian in the economic sphere.




Well said.
Is there *anyone* *anywhere* who thinks we don't have enough lawyers?
They're falling out of trees!
We only need a certain percentage of the populace to be college educated.
If you have a big pile of bullshit that needs to be shoveled into a wheel barrow and you have 100 guys standing there in suits who's going to grab the shovel?



Iamsemisweet -> RE: Rick Santorum says don't send your kids to college (1/27/2012 4:56:49 PM)

The problem is, we don't have bullshit to shovel in this country anymore.  Manufacturing jobs, which used to provide family wage jobs for blue collar people are gone.  Construction - in the toilet.  Agriculture - too much hard work for real Americans.  And on and on.  There are very few jobs left for your typical high school grad that provide any kind of a decent wage.  So I guess they work at Walmart for the rest of their lives, right?  That seems like kind of a sad fate to wish upon your children.

I certainly don't disagree that a university education isn't want it used to be.  My son recently graduated and is still looking for a job.  I think kids that graduate from undergrad 100K in debt are out of their ever loving minds.  None of that, of course, was Santorum's point.  The point he was obviously making was that sending your kids to university will open them up to new and differing ideas and ways of thinking, and we wouldn't want that.  Maybe there is a reason that 62% of children who enter college with a faith conviction graduate without it.  Like, for example, that they learned to think critically.  



MyBeckAndCallBoy -> RE: Rick Santorum says don't send your kids to college (1/27/2012 5:14:12 PM)

Well, it's safe to say that all those college professors that teach Marxism, which lead to supporting all manner of welfare programs (welfare, food stamps, unemployment "insurance", workers' compensation, etc.), which ultimately inculcates in young Americans the attitude labor is beneath them and all good things are OWED to them.... and means employers prefer to hire foreigners who still have a work ethic.

By all means, let's diminish the American character, because it's sooo beneath us to get our hands dirty. Yes, indeed, socialism is a great thing to learn - until, as Thatcher said, you run out of other people's money.



slvemike4u -> RE: Rick Santorum says don't send your kids to college (1/27/2012 5:38:38 PM)

My god,you got a college education and yet you don't have a fucking clue as to what is,and what isn't marxism....how very fucking sad.
Take it from someone who actually collects,and will for life ,a workers compensation check,there is nothing,I repeat nothing, at all socialistic about collecting on what amounts to an insurance policy.
By the way,when I consider the pain I went thru,and the surgeries I endured State Insurance Fund of New York is getting off cheap.
That institution of higher education you went to ripped you the fuck off,seems you didn't get your moneys worth.



Edited to correct my use of the word singular form "surgery".....there were multiple,and in all likelihood are yet to be multiples yet to come surgical procedures



Lucylastic -> RE: Rick Santorum says don't send your kids to college (1/27/2012 5:52:28 PM)

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