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RE: SEAL 6 strikes again - 1/29/2012 3:33:12 PM   
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Sooo.... you think this story should or does have a right or left wing persective? You are out of touch with America my friend if you do.


Careful that guy has the PATENT on "out of touch" ... Could end up costing you a bundle in an intellectual property suit.



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RE: SEAL 6 strikes again - 1/29/2012 4:20:26 PM   
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No, the essence is the government is lying, you are a fool if you believe the stories they tell you. Something happened. What really happened you may never know. If you followed Bin Laden story from the start you understand what I am saying. The official story started "officially" changing shortly after it was presented. How was it possible as Obama and co. were watching live feed on the screen and were in direct contact? Here is what locals are saying: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ixrT01Hnec
The same with Somalia; there is no way to verify what really took place and why. 



But if it is believe them, or you, there isnt much of a contest is there. You already said Seal team six were murdered to keep them quiet, that was when you lost my vote.

Someone else has already pointed out your absurd claim that 12,000 US troops had landed in Libya. In your own words "there is no way to verify what happened in Somalia" Yet you insist it didnt happen. Odd you can verify one and not the other.

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RE: SEAL 6 strikes again - 1/29/2012 4:26:44 PM   
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You are claiming that Bin Ladn isnt dead based on a youtube video?


I am not claiming it. The most likely Bin Laden died many  years ago because of kidney disease. It is known fact around 9/11 he got kidney dialysis treatment, it means the end is near. There are no information of kidney transplant operation on Laden.


Sorry, princess. Bin Ladn was broadcasting regularly until just before he died.

Another FAIL.

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RE: SEAL 6 strikes again - 1/29/2012 7:17:14 PM   
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Wow.  Nine heavily armed Somalis, with hostages.  Both hostages and all rescuers unharmed, all hostiles dead.  I thought outcomes like that were just in the movies.


I thought that was pretty routine, except for it being a bit sloppy to take out the hostiles, rather than arresting them.

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RE: SEAL 6 strikes again - 1/29/2012 7:39:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: rockspider

Denmark has a warship in the area "The Absalon". The crew has been quite succesful in capturing pirates. But when they do, the politicians back home can't find out of what to do with the scum so normal procedure is to sail a bit around with them, feed them up and finally setting them of on a beach i Somalia and telling them "Naugthy boys, don't do it again".


Who even has jurisdiction, with Somalia hardly being a nation at all, save on paper?

Our navy also swings by periodically, but the merchants are turning to mercs, so I'm guessing nobody has a viable route to dealing with them, beyond killing. Not that it's a major problem, so long as they're verifying that these are pirates and pose a risk to allied fleets, but it seems mercs might be the preferred agent if killing is the preferred route.

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RE: SEAL 6 strikes again - 1/29/2012 11:58:41 PM   
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But if it is believe them, or you, there isnt much of a contest is there. You already said Seal team six were murdered to keep them quiet, that was when you lost my vote.

Someone else has already pointed out your absurd claim that 12,000 US troops had landed in Libya. In your own words "there is no way to verify what happened in Somalia" Yet you insist it didnt happen. Odd you can verify one and not the other.


I did say with Libya landing these are unconfirmed reports. I din not insist nothing happened in Somalia. I just said the official story does not sound realistic, the most likely exaggerated and organized for propaganda purposes. It is quite clear if you read the official report and Obama announcement. My take of the seal team death in Afghanistan Chinook helicopter case is; it deserves official investigation. The army protocol rules were clearly violated (according to J. Ventura, a former Navy seal) by loading them all together into a flying coffin. Why it happened, what was the goal there, where were they going, how was the action justified? I need all these questions answered before concluding anything.

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RE: SEAL 6 strikes again - 1/30/2012 1:24:44 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Aswad

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

Wow.  Nine heavily armed Somalis, with hostages.  Both hostages and all rescuers unharmed, all hostiles dead.  I thought outcomes like that were just in the movies.


I thought that was pretty routine, except for it being a bit sloppy to take out the hostiles, rather than arresting them.

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Aswad, the Seals don't "arrest" people they kill them.
In and out as fast as they can so the enemy is in shock. They hit them hard and fast.
Boy, I'm just glad they're on our side! Once they're on them they're dead.
When I was in the Navy me and a buddy put in requests to go to Seal school but our Division Officer tore up our request sheets and told us to "screw."
We were both 6'0" and about 170 lbs, stringbeans.

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RE: SEAL 6 strikes again - 1/30/2012 2:00:30 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Fellow

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But if it is believe them, or you, there isnt much of a contest is there. You already said Seal team six were murdered to keep them quiet, that was when you lost my vote.

Someone else has already pointed out your absurd claim that 12,000 US troops had landed in Libya. In your own words "there is no way to verify what happened in Somalia" Yet you insist it didnt happen. Odd you can verify one and not the other.


I did say with Libya landing these are unconfirmed reports. I din not insist nothing happened in Somalia. I just said the official story does not sound realistic, the most likely exaggerated and organized for propaganda purposes. It is quite clear if you read the official report and Obama announcement. My take of the seal team death in Afghanistan Chinook helicopter case is; it deserves official investigation. The army protocol rules were clearly violated (according to J. Ventura, a former Navy seal) by loading them all together into a flying coffin. Why it happened, what was the goal there, where were they going, how was the action justified? I need all these questions answered before concluding anything.


It is called Black Ops for a reason. How is it that you can not believe that a contengent of the best special forces America (and perhaps the world) has to offer could not dispatch 9 ragtag pirates with out of date AK-47s? Let's be realistic here. Your grammar is so horrid that you can probably barely read the reports.



Edited to say "Good Job boys. Nine less vagabonds to worry about". God Bless.

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RE: SEAL 6 strikes again - 1/30/2012 7:03:23 AM   
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ORIGINAL: popeye1250


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ORIGINAL: Aswad

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

Wow.  Nine heavily armed Somalis, with hostages.  Both hostages and all rescuers unharmed, all hostiles dead.  I thought outcomes like that were just in the movies.


I thought that was pretty routine, except for it being a bit sloppy to take out the hostiles, rather than arresting them.

Health,
al-Aswad.




Aswad, the Seals don't "arrest" people they kill them.
In and out as fast as they can so the enemy is in shock. They hit them hard and fast.
Boy, I'm just glad they're on our side! Once they're on them they're dead.
When I was in the Navy me and a buddy put in requests to go to Seal school but our Division Officer tore up our request sheets and told us to "screw."
We were both 6'0" and about 170 lbs, stringbeans.

Pops, you don't have to be big to be a SEAL. One of my old training partners had served in a team. He was 5'5 and 135# soaking wet. When we worked off hours with a SWAT team on their hand to hand, I saw him spar with a guy who was almost a foot taller and 100# heavier and in under 3 seconds, it was OVER
On my best day, I could make it 30 seconds if I turned up the defense all the way and forgot about attacking but the end result was inevitable. (Me on the ground hurting)
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RE: SEAL 6 strikes again - 1/30/2012 11:40:16 AM   
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Nicest, most respectful gentlman you'd ever want to have beers and pizza with.


Just don't get him mad...I could tell you some stories about that type of guy...Do not mess with them.

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RE: SEAL 6 strikes again - 1/30/2012 12:29:34 PM   
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Nicest, most respectful gentlman you'd ever want to have beers and pizza with.


Just don't get him mad...I could tell you some stories about that type of guy...Do not mess with them.

Butch

I'm just happy they're on our side.

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RE: SEAL 6 strikes again - 1/30/2012 1:10:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Fellow
The whole story was staged and timed (Obama speech) for pure propaganda purposes, exactly as Bin  Laden ghost raid was.

Next you're going to tell us that General Sherman didn't capture Atlanta, Georgia just before the Presidential election of 1864 - it was all faked just to get Abraham Lincoln votes in his re-election campaign.



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