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RE: For subs: Feelings of gender inferiority as a turn-on. - 1/16/2012 7:15:57 AM   
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Until the philosophy which holds one gender superior and another inferior is finally and permanently discredited and abandoned..

There will always be problems in society

Until there are no longer first class and second class citizens in any society

Until the way someone presents themselves is of no more significance than the colour of their eyes

There are problems in society

My thoughts on gender inferiority inspired by Bob Marley.

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RE: For subs: Feelings of gender inferiority as a turn-on. - 1/16/2012 7:25:50 AM   
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Yeah, but Stella? It's what makes his winky hard, sooo...

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RE: For subs: Feelings of gender inferiority as a turn-on. - 1/16/2012 7:31:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


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Women have traditionally wrapped men around their little fingers by leading them to believe they are the smart ones.




How far do these traditions go back??

The dawn of time I suspect.

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RE: For subs: Feelings of gender inferiority as a turn-on. - 1/16/2012 7:34:57 AM   
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The notion of woman's submission is wholly fantasy, they are just dominating from the long way 'round.

You can fuckin' quote me.

Hup the Fool.

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RE: For subs: Feelings of gender inferiority as a turn-on. - 1/16/2012 7:58:05 AM   
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ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx

Yeah, but Stella? It's what makes his winky hard, sooo...


That's okay, I'm cool with that.. anything which gets winkies hard is okay even if it's not generally socially acceptable.. isn't that the whole point?


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RE: For subs: Feelings of gender inferiority as a turn-on. - 1/16/2012 7:58:06 AM   
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I don't know about "inferior," as there are clearly different strengths and weaknesses to each sex.

Superiority and inferiority are not quite the correct terms, but I will defer to men more than I will to women. I trust the judgment and temperament of men more than I do women, including myself, and I do believe that is based solely on the fact that they are men.

I've said it before on these boards, at least twice, and didn't get pummeled for it, so I hope I don't now, either. It's just how I feel, but I don't bring it up much because it is not the most accepted position. I don't like to debate it, as I admit, it's a difficult position to defend. It's simply how I feel.

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RE: For subs: Feelings of gender inferiority as a turn-on. - 1/16/2012 8:09:22 AM   
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Once you turn that philosophical bend, the next logical thing to believe is which race is superior/inferior. Anyone who know enough people known that it comes down to individuality of the person.

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RE: For subs: Feelings of gender inferiority as a turn-on. - 1/16/2012 8:16:55 AM   
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I understand how you could see that next step from my post because I haven't elaborated, which leaves my words wide open to interpretation, but I assure you that's not my thought at all.

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RE: For subs: Feelings of gender inferiority as a turn-on. - 1/16/2012 8:19:19 AM   
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The slippery slope argument though, Kaliko, et al, is well; a slippery slope.  

Chauvinism (if you want to call it that) is no clear path to racism. 

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RE: For subs: Feelings of gender inferiority as a turn-on. - 1/16/2012 8:45:39 AM   
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Touche on the slippery slope reference. But I have to say, I'm very uncomfortable with anyone associating my thoughts with racism. I'm trying to not take it to heart, but it's quite a jump to make and an unkind one at that.

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RE: For subs: Feelings of gender inferiority as a turn-on. - 1/16/2012 8:53:58 AM   
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Lots of feminist groups formed because they saw patriarchy as oppressive and abusive towards women. I neither agree with patriarchy or most feminists groups because I see both as passive aggressive. Neither show man in his fullness or woman in her fullness.
You have a fantasy but its merely a fantasy. Enjoy but accept it for what it is.

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RE: For subs: Feelings of gender inferiority as a turn-on. - 1/16/2012 8:55:04 AM   
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Yuppers, and I am actually 100% in agreement with you, and if it sounded like I wasn't, we need to get me or you some q-tips for translation purposes. 

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RE: For subs: Feelings of gender inferiority as a turn-on. - 1/16/2012 8:57:59 AM   
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Okay - thank you. Got it now. (My need for q-tips not yours.)

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RE: For subs: Feelings of gender inferiority as a turn-on. - 1/16/2012 9:28:07 AM   
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Being "below" on the totem pole, and inferior are VASTLY different things in my world.


I think this is an important distinction that exists in my dynamic. Couldn't have said it better myself.

If feeling inferior to women is your thing, then go for it. I am certain you'll find someone who is like-minded and willing to view you in an inferior light as a result of being male. Its all about compatibility. Just keep in mind that outside your dynamic, you treat men and women equally. Not everyone is into your kink, and trying to impose your proclamation of female superiority on others would be rude. Not that you implied you'd go this far. I understand this post is about what gets you turned on, but I like talking, so...

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RE: For subs: Feelings of gender inferiority as a turn-on. - 1/16/2012 9:31:45 AM   
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Not a sub, but I've known subs who were very into the same thing. I think it's the idea that not only do they themselves feel their place is at someone's feet, but that their entire gender is the same, such that that's not just their place because of their personality, but its their place in society as a whole. It feels less voluntary that way.

Just a guess.

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RE: For subs: Feelings of gender inferiority as a turn-on. - 1/16/2012 9:37:13 AM   
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ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx
Many men are turned on by female superiority, and love to be teased and laughed at about it.


Yes, and I'm happy to be one of them.

People can do all sorts of things with these various findings regarding the superiority of one sex over another. At a cool, balanced and intellectual sort of level, I generally conclude that they're rubbish. I've always been one of the first to muscle in on those who want to make a 'philosophy of femdommery' out of (usually carefully selected) bits of research that claim that females are 'superior' to males. On the other hand, I'm perfectly happy to read and semi-absorb the latest of such findings as trumpeted in e.g. The Guardian in order to give myself a hard on.

Well, why not? People let unreason control their libidos all the time. Why not work with it, the better both to enjoy it and to control it? Who said all this D/s stuff needed to be 'reasonable' anyway? Viva la contradiction, I say.





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RE: For subs: Feelings of gender inferiority as a turn-on. - 1/16/2012 9:38:04 AM   
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Yeah, I think this whole thing is due to the nebulous wordings we all use in casual conversation, (although I do think there are small contingents of both sexes that do go all the way to town with the gender inferiority business, and hey, nothing wrong with that)

Women need toilet seats down, and men end up pissing all over them, or, when bitched at,  leave them up and women fall in them.


It is a difference to celebrate, a distinction, and not nesessarily a qualitative comparison.

If they feel all snuggly and warm and safe and comfortable to admire and obey from the floor, I mean it is really a WTF? whether it is because of inferiority or superiority or they actually like to fall in the toilet or cuck somebody or be a princess so long as it is aworkin for the team, right? 


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RE: For subs: Feelings of gender inferiority as a turn-on. - 1/16/2012 9:49:48 AM   
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What do you mean by supposed? You mean we aren't? We aren't blessed with tittys and pretty reproductive parts, unlike what men have? We don't apear soft and fun to the touch? We don't raise kids, and for that matter make them(cradle of life you know)? We can't make a mans day brighter just with our smile? Or crush his hopes just by turning our back to him? If this is true it is news to me. And if it is infact true don't anyone tell my pets...I think it would upset them a lot.

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ORIGINAL: Keeeth

supposed female superiority


Honestly, to answer the op, many men seem to feel that women are of the better gender. You are not alone. And I have noticed over the years that as far as subs go many men will say women are better but few femsubs say men are actually better than they are. I think perhaps there is a reason for this.

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RE: For subs: Feelings of gender inferiority as a turn-on. - 1/16/2012 10:07:35 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MissImmortalPain

We aren't blessed with tittys and pretty reproductive parts, unlike what men have? We don't apear soft and fun to the touch?


To be fair, a lot of the time I think you women are cursed with titties and your reproductive parts. And on all but rare occasions, you're hard and prickly to the touch. Just saying.

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RE: For subs: Feelings of gender inferiority as a turn-on. - 1/16/2012 10:36:09 AM   
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Tittys are a blessing. As are ovaries. And hormones. And mood swings(those come in handy if you want an excuse to swing something at a man, like maybe an axe) As for hard and prick...those sound more like words having to do with men then women. Unless you want me to tell you what to do with one of them, but that would take us back to tittys and soft pretty parts.

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