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Republicans don't require ID in their caucuses. - 12/30/2011 2:44:48 AM

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The same Republicans who spent all year fretting about voter fraud, and who are shrouding their vote tabulation activities in secrecy, do not require a photo ID to vote in the caucuses they run.

I guess it really is about "If you can't beat em, disenfranchise 'em"...

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RE: Republicans don't require ID in their caucuses. - 12/30/2011 3:24:35 AM

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Do you even know the difference between elections and caucuses?

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RE: Republicans don't require ID in their caucuses. - 12/30/2011 4:43:12 AM

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So, you're saying that the choice of someone in a caucus is worth less than their vote in an election, and is therefore deserving of less care and attention to its integrity? Is that your point?

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RE: Republicans don't require ID in their caucuses. - 12/30/2011 5:39:03 AM

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Yes. The right to vote is reserved for citizens.

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RE: Republicans don't require ID in their caucuses. - 12/30/2011 5:58:34 AM

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Theyre probably forced to do this on account of the Own Wall Street punks

And you know they can get away with anything because Holder is either too inept or corrupt to do his job, take your pick

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So, you're saying that the choice of someone in a caucus is worth less than their vote in an election, and is therefore deserving of less care and attention to its integrity? Is that your point?

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RE: Republicans don't require ID in their caucuses. - 12/30/2011 6:02:51 AM

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That post was in response to fargs "The same Republicans who... are shrouding their vote tabulation activities in secrecy,..."

I apologize if Ive caused any confusion

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RE: Republicans don't require ID in their caucuses. - 12/30/2011 6:04:25 AM

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle So, you're saying that the choice of someone in a caucus is worth less than their vote in an election, and is therefore deserving of less care and attention to its integrity? Is that your point?

The two have nothing in common. Caucusing is not voting.

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RE: Republicans don't require ID in their caucuses. - 12/30/2011 10:38:54 AM

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The Iowa caucuses operate very differently from the more common primary election used by most other states (see U.S. presidential primary). The caucuses are generally defined as "gatherings of neighbors." Rather than going to polls and casting ballots, Iowans gather at a set location in each of Iowa's 1,784 precincts.
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The Republicans and Democrats each hold their own set of caucuses subject to their own particular rules that change from time to time. Participants in each party's caucuses must be registered with that party. Participants can change their registration at the caucus location. Additionally, 17-year-olds can participate, as long as they will be 18 years old by the date of the general election. Observers are allowed to attend, as long as they do not become actively involved in the debate and voting process. For example, members of the media and campaign staff and volunteers attend many of the precinct caucuses. Youth who will not be eligible to vote by the date of the general election may also attend as observers and may volunteer to attend the county convention as youth delegates.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iowa_caucuses

Isnt it the Republicans who are pushing for voter IDs, demanding people actually have one? How is the above any different?

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RE: Republicans don't require ID in their caucuses. - 12/30/2011 10:46:55 AM

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but but but.... oh never mind, the implosion continues

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RE: Republicans don't require ID in their caucuses. - 12/30/2011 10:58:34 AM

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Im really hoping someone can come along and tell me what I am missing in that post, Lucy. Because, if they cant, then fargle has a damn good point.

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RE: Republicans don't require ID in their caucuses. - 12/30/2011 11:02:55 AM

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just dont hold ya breath
This is not in my knowledge base, but your link, and my own research(within the past hour) kinda agrees with you and Farg..
im willing to learn otherwise, as long as its "factual" and not just a mental masturbation comment.

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RE: Republicans don't require ID in their caucuses. - 12/30/2011 11:15:03 AM

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Some states (like Mass) have had their Supreme Courts rule that requiring ID to vote is a violation of people's rights. A political party holding a primary or caucus can not do something that is illegal to do during regular voting.

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RE: Republicans don't require ID in their caucuses. - 12/30/2011 11:31:29 AM

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Thats not what I was asking.

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RE: Republicans don't require ID in their caucuses. - 12/30/2011 11:39:40 AM

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quote:

who spent all year fretting about voter fraud

It's about preventing as many other party votes as possible. Not new.

Of course, the damn law keeps getting in the way...sometimes.

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RE: Republicans don't require ID in their caucuses. - 12/30/2011 12:58:30 PM

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Welcome to the forums! Go Patriots!

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RE: Republicans don't require ID in their caucuses. - 12/31/2011 12:01:04 AM

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quote:

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Isnt it the Republicans who are pushing for voter IDs, demanding people actually have one? How is the above any different?

As your quote states, the Iowa Caucasus are different than others. They take the place of voting. Voting is for citizens.

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Observers are allowed to attend, as long as they do not become actively involved in the debate and voting process.

I would guess that the Iowa Caucasus use a "friend recognition" kind of thing for their voting. You have to either be known or vouched for. Just a guess, I do not live there.

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RE: Republicans don't require ID in their caucuses. - 12/31/2011 12:19:59 AM

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I dont live there either... lol

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Caucusing is not voting.

I realize they arent the same, but, if one takes the place of the other, shouldnt the same rules apply?

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RE: Republicans don't require ID in their caucuses. - 12/31/2011 2:18:21 AM

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This is simple: The Republican Caucus goers don't need photo IDs to participate in the caucus because they are Republicans!!

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RE: Republicans don't require ID in their caucuses. - 12/31/2011 3:42:09 AM

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Seems quite simple. Any idiot can vote for us, but you have to be qualified to vote against us.

HEY, don't pick on me, they said it !

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RE: Republicans don't require ID in their caucuses. - 12/31/2011 6:26:21 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

I dont live there either... lol

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Caucusing is not voting.

I realize they arent the same, but, if one takes the place of the other, shouldnt the same rules apply?

It would be helpful if I knew which article the OP was reading so that I could see just what he was getting upset about.

As an example. . . when the other half votes in the primaries, the vote workers know who he is / recognize him at least, because our voting areas are small. It could be something like that. Or perhaps they require a voter registration card. They must be using checking something to check how they are registered.

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