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kalikshama -> Facebook: Stop censoring breastfeeding photos (12/28/2011 12:26:13 PM)

Stop Facebook.com from deleting breastfeeding photographs: http://signon.org/sign/official-petition-for

I don't agree with the legal premise here but I'm anti censorship of breastfeeding.



tazzygirl -> RE: Facebook: Stop censoring breastfeeding photos (12/28/2011 12:29:18 PM)

I think this is a bit overboard. FB isnt denying women the right to breast feed. It merely is dictating what photos can be posted on accounts. I see that as totally within their right to do.



Miserlou -> RE: Facebook: Stop censoring breastfeeding photos (12/28/2011 12:34:14 PM)

i won't be signing it for two reasons.
1> i don't see it as censorship any more than collarme not allowing outright porn as the primary photo is censorship. facebook is a private company and they are free to establish whatever rules regarding nudity they want to.

2> the lawsuit is a joke and will fail, because the women's right to breastfeed isn't being challenged in any way, only their right to post pictures of themselves doing it on a privately owned website that has very specific anti-nudity rules.



searching4mysir -> RE: Facebook: Stop censoring breastfeeding photos (12/28/2011 12:36:48 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Miserlou


2> the lawsuit is a joke and will fail, because the women's right to breastfeed isn't being challenged in any way, only their right to post pictures of themselves doing it on a privately owned website that has very specific anti-nudity rules.



The thing is, that by CA law, breastfeeding isn't nudity and FB is headquartered in CA.



tazzygirl -> RE: Facebook: Stop censoring breastfeeding photos (12/28/2011 12:39:23 PM)

Not sure that really matters. Its their web site. They can restrict what photos are posted as long as they do not discriminate against a protected class.

Take for example this one. Photos of children will almost always be deleted. Context doesnt matter.



searching4mysir -> RE: Facebook: Stop censoring breastfeeding photos (12/28/2011 1:24:23 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Not sure that really matters. Its their web site. They can restrict what photos are posted as long as they do not discriminate against a protected class.

Take for example this one. Photos of children will almost always be deleted. Context doesnt matter.



Probably because any photos on a kink site of children could be reasoned to be child endangerment leading to child porn.

If it is "nipples" that is the issue, then they need to delete all the photos of shirtless men as well else they get nailed for discrimination. Whatever decision they make has to apply across the board.



Termyn8or -> RE: Facebook: Stop censoring breastfeeding photos (12/28/2011 1:34:47 PM)

Ere ya go !

The gals shouldn't be suing, the guys should be suing !

LOL

T^T



TheFireWithinMe -> RE: Facebook: Stop censoring breastfeeding photos (12/28/2011 1:49:14 PM)

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If it is "nipples" that is the issue, then they need to delete all the photos of shirtless men as well else they get nailed for discrimination. Whatever decision they make has to apply across the board.


Oh for Christ's sake, it's not the same and you know it. In our society it's legal for men to walk around shirtless. Maybe not right but that's the way it is.

I'm not signing either. As others have said it's not to protest anti-breastfeeding it's to protest anti-breastfeeding photos. Which the owners have every right to do.

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LizDeluxe -> RE: Facebook: Stop censoring breastfeeding photos (12/28/2011 2:05:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kalikshama
but I'm anti censorship


I wish that people actually understood the meaning of the word censorship before they attempted to use it in a sentence.



tazzygirl -> RE: Facebook: Stop censoring breastfeeding photos (12/28/2011 2:25:12 PM)

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Holy crispy Christ Taz HOT avatar!


Thanky!!!



tazzygirl -> RE: Facebook: Stop censoring breastfeeding photos (12/28/2011 2:39:23 PM)

The Web site responded in a statement saying users are not permitted to show a fully exposed breast.

"We take no action on the vast majority of breastfeeding photos because they follow the site's Terms of Use," the statement said. "These policies are designed to ensure Facebook remains a safe, secure and trusted environment for all users, including the many children who use the site."

Per FB's TOS

You will not post content that: is hateful, threatening, or pornographic; incites violence; or contains nudity or graphic or gratuitous violence.

If FB backs off this, what will be next?



xxblushesxx -> RE: Facebook: Stop censoring breastfeeding photos (12/28/2011 2:46:34 PM)

I guess I don't get what the big deal is. If a certain site doesn't allow you to post a certain kind of photo, there are others ways to share those (if you feel so inclined) with friends and family. If they became "big brotherish" then perhaps facebook would lose enough followers that they may (or may not) re-think their stance. Their site, their rules.



Rule -> RE: Facebook: Stop censoring breastfeeding photos (12/28/2011 2:48:52 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TheFireWithinMe
In our society it's legal for men to walk around shirtless.

True. It therefore is kinda weird that the only times I have been stopped by the police was when I was riding my bike without a shirt, doing heavy work as at both times I was making a long distance bike ride and therefore was sweating profusely; one time during high summer in a populated area and one time in autumn at half past one at night in an empty countryside (shortly before moving through a sleeping town). Whereas the same day hundreds of thousands of people may have been on the beach wearing far less than I.



servantforuse -> RE: Facebook: Stop censoring breastfeeding photos (12/28/2011 2:52:23 PM)

I have to wonder why you would want the world to see something so personal ? I have never had a problem with women breastfeeding their babies in public, but I have to agree with facebook on this one..



xxblushesxx -> RE: Facebook: Stop censoring breastfeeding photos (12/28/2011 2:55:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

I have to wonder why you would want the world to see something so personal ? I have never had a problem with women breastfeeding their babies in public, but I have to agree with facebook on this one..


Are you asking me, or was that a FR? Because my post does not disagree with what you've said.



kalikshama -> RE: Facebook: Stop censoring breastfeeding photos (12/28/2011 2:59:18 PM)

Ya, I've been looking for an off topic thread to say woo hoo!

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OsideGirl -> RE: Facebook: Stop censoring breastfeeding photos (12/28/2011 3:02:24 PM)

It's a privately owned website. They have the right to deny those photos if they choose.



tazzygirl -> RE: Facebook: Stop censoring breastfeeding photos (12/28/2011 3:03:39 PM)

I know! It was too yummy not to use!



tazzygirl -> RE: Facebook: Stop censoring breastfeeding photos (12/28/2011 3:08:08 PM)


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ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx

I guess I don't get what the big deal is. If a certain site doesn't allow you to post a certain kind of photo, there are others ways to share those (if you feel so inclined) with friends and family. If they became "big brotherish" then perhaps facebook would lose enough followers that they may (or may not) re-think their stance. Their site, their rules.


I agree.

Apparently FB had some people complain about a few breast feeding pictures. So FB started taking some down, stating they were against TOS. Then, women started complaining to FB about them being taken down stating its a natural process and that women are proud of it. Now these women started a FB group against the removal and about 10,000 people have joined... a small number in comparison to the number of users.

I dont recall anyone posting delivery room pictures...a natural process.




kalikshama -> RE: Facebook: Stop censoring breastfeeding photos (12/28/2011 3:10:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LizDeluxe

quote:

ORIGINAL: kalikshama
but I'm anti censorship


I wish that people actually understood the meaning of the word censorship before they attempted to use it in a sentence.



Far enough. Rewrite: I'm pro breastfeeding and anti the suggestion that this is not a normal, natural activity.

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Our Mission is to help mothers worldwide to breastfeed through mother-to-mother support, encouragement, information, and education, and to promote a better understanding of breastfeeding as an important element in the healthy development of the baby and mother.



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