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Lucylastic -> Remember when they said...... (12/26/2011 1:51:45 PM)
If anyone can find the untruths in any of these "quotes, facts and stories", please do so these are from people who want to lead the republican party and the whole of the USA< with a couple of others thrown in, because, well its the end of the year and look backs are just as much fun and factual and not an alinsky in sight! love that dead term On April 8, Senate Minority Whip Jon Kyl (R-Ariz.) said on the Senate floor that abortion was "well over 90 percent of what Planned Parenthood does." In actuality, abortions are around 3 percent of the organization's work. After outrage ensued over the senator's false claim, a Kyl aide's response was to say his statement was not meant to be "factual." In early June, when Sarah Palin was a potential 2012 presidential candidate, she bungled basic American history at a tour bus stop in Boston. Speaking about Paul Revere's historic ride, Palin said that Revere rung bells to warn the British that they weren't going to take away Americans' arms. He who warned, uh, the ... the British that they weren't gonna be takin' away our arms, uh, by ringin' those bells and, um, by makin' sure that as he's ridin' his horse through town to send those warnin' shots and bells that, uh, we were gonna be secure and we were gonna be free ... and we were gonna be armed. Three days after Osama bin Laden was killed, Sen. Scott Brown (R-Mass.) said in several TV interviews that he'd seen photos of the fallen al-Qaeda leader's dead body at an official government briefing. Turns out, the photos were fakes, a hoax making its way around the internet. Brown made the claims before President Obama announced his decision not to disclose the gruesome photos to the public. Brown was forced to admit, "The photo that I saw and that a lot of other people saw is not authentic." His aides didn't explain why the senator thought the photos were real or why he said he had seen them at an official briefing. The day before making her official presidential campaign announcement, in Waterloo, Iowa, Michele Bachmann, who was born and grew up in Waterloo before moving to Minnesota, told Fox News, "John Wayne was from Waterloo, Iowa. That's the kind of spirit that I have, too." However, the John Wayne with roots in Waterloo is John Wayne Gacy, a serial killer convicted of 33 murders. John Wayne the movie star was born in Winterset, Iowa At the CNBC debate on November 9, Perry famously forgot one of the government agencies he would eliminate if elected. HuffPost's Jon Ward reports: "It's three government agencies when I get there that are gone: Commerce, Education and the um, what's the third one there. Let's see," Perry said. He turned to Texas Rep. Ron Paul, looking for some help, but got nothing but a remark from Paul that he would eliminate five agencies. "Oh five," Perry said. "So Commerce, Education, and, uh, the uh, um, um." "EPA?" offered former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney. "EPA, there ya go," Perry said as the room exploded in laughter. CNBC moderator John Harwood honed in and pressed Perry: "Seriously? Is EPA the one you were talking about?" Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain struggled hard to answer a question about U.S. foreign policy towards Libya in an interview with the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel's editorial board on Nov. 14. Cain's response: "Okay, Libya ... President Obama supported the uprising, correct? President Obama called for the removal of [Muammar] Gaddafi. Just wanted to make sure we're talking about the same thing before I say, 'Yes, I agreed.' No, I didn't agree. I do not agree with the way he handled it for the following reason--Nope, that's a different one." Joe Arpaio, who calls himself "America's Toughest Sheriff," has gained national infamy for his harsh stance on illegal immigration, particularly for his support of Arizona's SB 1070. Following a three-year investigation, the Department of Justice released a report in December detailing instances of racial profiling, discrimination and other civil rights offenses by Arpaio and his office. At the GOP presidential debate in Iowa Dec. 12, Rick Perry accused Mitt Romney of once using Massachusetts' health care mandate as a national model, a charge Romney has repeatedly denied. Romney, apparently at the end of his rope, turned to Perry and said, "Rick, I'll tell you what: 10,000 bucks?" and held out his hand as if to shake on it. Democrats instantly pounced on the $10K wager, saying it only further proved that the millionaire candidate was out of touch with the average American. A week after it was announced that former Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (R-Calif.) and his wife of 25 years, Maria Shriver, had separated, the Los Angeles Times revealed that the Austrian actor-turned-politician had fathered the son of his family's longtime housekeeper. Although his illegitimate child was born in 1997, Schwarzenegger did not tell Shriver about his son until after he left office earlier this year. The couple divorced in July. House Speaker John Boehner solidified his place on the "naughty" list after blocking a two-month extension on the payroll tax cut, set to expire on January 1. Under fire from both the White House and GOP ranks, he finally caved and made way for the House to pass the stopgap measure just before Christmas Rep. Allen West (R-Fla.) has quickly become one of the most outspoken freshmen in Congress, making a number of offensive comments about his colleagues. In his first year of office, West has incited a feud with fellow Floridian and DNC Chair Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, called Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.) a "plantation overseer," and compared Democrats to Nazi propagandist Joseph Goebbels. NOW A few on the loveliness that is unca newty batshit In a December 7 column, conservative pundit Ann Coulter wrote about Newt's history: Gingrich has spent his years since [his first year as Speaker of the House] having an affair, divorcing his second wife and making money by being the consummate Washington insider -- trading on access, taking $1.6 million from Freddie Mac and palling around with Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, Nancy Pelosi and Al Sharpton. Even Chuck Schumer wouldn't be seen doing a joint event with Al Sharpton! But Newt seeks approval from strange places. Newt Gingrich is the "anti-Establishment" candidate only if "the Establishment" is defined as "anyone who remembers what happened the day before yesterday." On December 10, Wall Street Journal columnist Peggy Noonan wrote about Gingrich's rapid rise in the Republican primary. "He is a human hand grenade who walks around with his hand on the pin, saying, 'Watch this!'," she wrote. According to The Hill, one Republican legislator who served with Gingrich in the House of Representatives said that "Newt's hand is always six inches from the self-destruct button." Conservative columnist George Will shared some choice words about Newt in a December 2 Washington Post column. "There is almost artistic vulgarity in Gingrich's unrepented role as a hired larynx for interests profiting from such government follies as ethanol and cheap mortgages," Will wrote. In his New York Times column, David Brooks outlined why Newt "seems to have walked straight out of the 1960s." Gingrich, Brooks wrote, "has every negative character trait that conservatives associate with '60s excess: narcissism, self-righteousness, self-indulgence and intemperance. He just has those traits in Republican form." Gingrich has what you might call a revolutionary disposition: He has great intensity and energy. His mind is drawn to stark and diametrical distinctions; he expects change to occur through cataclysmic clashes and so seems always to be seeking after ways to accelerate the contradictions. This allows him to much more easily thunder over his own inconsistencies and past changes of mind. But he has no discipline whatsoever, can be almost unbelievably erratic and unfocused, and is unironically conceited. And this indiscipline was not an aberration. It indicated an impulsiveness found elsewhere in his career. Gingrich has a history of making serious charges that turn out to be self-indictments -- witness his recent attack on congressional advocates for Freddie Mac, despite having been one of its well-paid consultants. Gingrich's language is often intemperate. He is seized by temporary enthusiasms. He combines absolute certainty in any given moment with continual reinvention over time. These traits are suited to a provocateur, an author, a commentator, a consultant. They are not the normal makings of a chief executive. In a column comparing Mitt Romney and Gingrich, the Washington Post's Charles Krauthammer said that "Gingrich has a self-regard so immense that it rivals Obama's -- but, unlike Obama's, is untamed by self-discipline." Please show your support for the wonderful wannabes running for the leader of the free world posiition ONly 10 months and 3 weeksroughly to go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MrRodgers -> RE: Remember when they said...... (12/26/2011 5:27:20 PM)
About the repubs...sadly we are no longer surprised. We are familiar with their ignorance and historical revisionism. "The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." -Friedrich Nietzsche Obama having 'tamed it'...lead his tribe. Gingrich is merely another part of his.

tweakabelle -> RE: Remember when they said...... (12/26/2011 7:25:13 PM)
Lucy! How could you? I'm so shocked! How could you ....... ..... present all those facts! .....dispassionately! ...... fairly! ..... without spinning them to the ends of the earth! With a challenge to the world to disprove them!!! The looney Right will be struck dumb, speechless, horrified. They won't know what to do! Facts are not allowed in the fantasy world that comprises your average looney Right winger's world view. This is below the belt! Dirty pool! Unfair tactics designed to render them speechless and looking idiotic. Why next you'll be suggesting 'no personal attacks' or 'no racial slurs' or some similar "politically correct anal retentive" nonsense with the sole purpose of denying them the right to speak whatever delusion is current in their minds. Don't you realise how much that will complicate their relationship with their counsellors and therapists? Sheer irresponsibility! Tut! Tut! Have you no sense of shame? I'm soooooo disappointed with you .... and I thought you were such a nice girl too! [sm=shame.gif]

slvemike4u -> RE: Remember when they said...... (12/26/2011 7:47:35 PM)
Maybe it's the large quantitys of Christmas cheer have been indulging in.....but while reading the op,I was laughing so hard I was crying.Yes,Lucy I do remember when they said that,but it was never quite so funny as it was tonight.Thanks,it hurt,laughing so hard,but it was woth it.[:D]

tazzygirl -> RE: Remember when they said...... (12/26/2011 8:46:37 PM)
Like hurting for you is a problem. [8D]

Lucylastic -> RE: Remember when they said...... (12/26/2011 9:01:07 PM)
yes....im utterly ashamed of myself for stooping.Yepyep.In my defense I didnt make anything up,I just thought counterpoint for the opposition would be timely.I also dont deny enjoyment at the factual ammo available.

joether -> RE: Remember when they said...... (12/27/2011 2:05:45 AM)
You forgot about the Tea Party. You know, those guys and gals that are protecting their own self interests while trying to sound like they are different from the mainstream GOP'ers? Last year, before the mid-term election, they were saying how they'd bring a jobs bill to Congress and get it passed and a host of other total lies. But they did manager to convince Americans to 'vote the bums out' enough to swing the House to the GOP. Since that time, there has been no jobs bills successfully working their way through Congress. They have become the very 'bums' they bitched about (as representatives that do nothing for the voters) over a year later. And the Tea Party is largely seen as the GOP's bitch, as those elected to office have more or less behaved as the GOP wanted them. Its in their very core being that makes them easy to control: they hate and distrust Mr. Obama and the Democrats. The GOP has resumed it's title of 'The Party of No' just in time for the election.

slvemike4u -> RE: Remember when they said...... (12/27/2011 8:29:48 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl Like hurting for you is a problem. [8D] I don't understand why you dislike me so much[:)]

willbeurdaddy -> RE: Remember when they said...... (12/27/2011 9:02:31 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: joether You forgot about the Tea Party. You know, those guys and gals that are protecting their own self interests while trying to sound like they are different from the mainstream GOP'ers? Last year, before the mid-term election, they were saying how they'd bring a jobs bill to Congress and get it passed and a host of other total lies. But they did manager to convince Americans to 'vote the bums out' enough to swing the House to the GOP. Since that time, there has been no jobs bills successfully working their way through Congress. They have become the very 'bums' they bitched about (as representatives that do nothing for the voters) over a year later. And the Tea Party is largely seen as the GOP's bitch, as those elected to office have more or less behaved as the GOP wanted them. Its in their very core being that makes them easy to control: they hate and distrust Mr. Obama and the Democrats. The GOP has resumed it's title of 'The Party of No' just in time for the election. The House did pass the bills, led by Tea Party principles. Harry Reid wouldnt bring them to a vote. The Dems are the party of no....like "no budget" for 3 years.

mnottertail -> RE: Remember when they said...... (12/27/2011 9:41:27 AM)
Nobody is votint the ratpoison republican bills.

Lucylastic -> RE: Remember when they said...... (12/27/2011 9:52:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: joether You forgot about the Tea Party. You know, those guys and gals that are protecting their own self interests while trying to sound like they are different from the mainstream GOP'ers? Last year, before the mid-term election, they were saying how they'd bring a jobs bill to Congress and get it passed and a host of other total lies. But they did manager to convince Americans to 'vote the bums out' enough to swing the House to the GOP. Since that time, there has been no jobs bills successfully working their way through Congress. They have become the very 'bums' they bitched about (as representatives that do nothing for the voters) over a year later. And the Tea Party is largely seen as the GOP's bitch, as those elected to office have more or less behaved as the GOP wanted them. Its in their very core being that makes them easy to control: they hate and distrust Mr. Obama and the Democrats. The GOP has resumed it's title of 'The Party of No' just in time for the election. LMAO theres enough right wing, far right idiots, teaparty morons and conservative crap, I could post a list every day that would last far longer than just to the november election, plus its christmas or it was, I had more pleasurable things to do... lets face it, we have enough on just Palin and Mcain to last months if really scraped for. let along the " brilliant" minds of the repub nominees Uz beki beki beki stan will go down in infamy for the quality of the joke contenders

Musicmystery -> RE: Remember when they said...... (12/27/2011 10:12:04 AM)
quote: these are from people who want to lead the republican party and the whole of the USA After outrage ensued over the false claim, an aide's response was to say his statement was not meant to be "factual." Lucy, In all seriousness, you are missing the point. The faithful don't care about factual--they care about simple. From Ronnie himself. It's just that simple. No, of course it isn't, and really, people even recognize that. But they don't want to hear it. Simple works for them.

Lucylastic -> RE: Remember when they said...... (12/27/2011 10:18:20 AM)
thats what frustrates me so much Mr Music I see the point here everyday, on here, in other forums and op/blogs. The ignorance is abysmal. I admit I find it extremely hard to accept stupid as simple. I Like simple, who doesnt, unless you have a mind that roots out all scenarios, the intricacies and outcomes. the stupid part is ridiculous PS seasons greetings

Musicmystery -> RE: Remember when they said...... (12/27/2011 11:11:35 AM)
I don't think it's stupid generically; I think it's willful attitude. Simple doesn't work for me because, in music, in business, in teaching, in writing, in my personal endeavors, I like results. That means, short of dumb luck, looking at real issues, causes, circumstances, and proceeding accordingly. Opinions, though, are free from that. "If only" is immune from measurable results. The imagined outcome is merely the fault of those with other opinions who are perceived (again, in non-demonstrable ways) as preventing the vision. Personal and group responsibility is then absolved. It's why the victim mentality is so prevalent. It's why stereotyping is a human mainstay in place of real argument. And in a busy world, it's faster and easier. Purpose and direction take effort. Blame and justification are expedient. It's how human minds work. And very quickly, the circus in the head is believed to be factual.

Owner59 -> RE: Remember when they said...... (12/27/2011 11:15:39 AM)
Remember when they said President Obama was trying to "indoctrinate our kids",just after he was elected?!! The president was going to give a speech aimed at shool kids and the kook-branch of the GOP were charging he was trying to "indoctrinate" them.Many said they wouldn`t let their kids watch for fear of the awful indoctrination they would suffer. It would really be funny and a hoot if that was an Onion article. But the cons actually did say those things. It was a great speech, about achieving goals and hard work and American dream. All things,lol, we`ve since found out,lol, were/are antithetical to republicans......[X(] It`s no wonder they were against it.

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