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Duskypearls -> Tough Guy with Dog Phobia (12/22/2011 8:55:42 PM)

This poor fella's phobia is quite extreme and debilitating. His terror is so overwhelming, it's painful to watch, as you can feel what he's feeling, and what it does to him. What courage, tho', to have put himself through this. Very impressive.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDvDCqLCdEE&feature=player_embedded




littlewonder -> RE: Tough Guy with Dog Phobia (12/22/2011 9:04:04 PM)

I have a sister in law who is scared to death of cats, kittens especially. The first time I saw her freak out she scared the shit out of me.

She and my brother came to visit me when my daughter was just a baby and we had a kitten at the time. My sis in law is sitting on the couch and the kitty crawled out. My sis in law jumped up, started screaming and crying and shaking uncontrollably yelling to my brother to get rid of the creature. She finally ran out the door and refused to come back in even  though I put the cat in another room. She couldn't even be in the same house as the cat.

I laugh about it now but at the time....wow. I never realized then that someone could have such a fear.





Duskypearls -> RE: Tough Guy with Dog Phobia (12/22/2011 9:33:04 PM)

You're not kidding, WOW!




BKSir -> RE: Tough Guy with Dog Phobia (12/22/2011 9:47:11 PM)

Thankfully I'm not quite that bad, but I understand how he feels. Small dogs scare the hell out of me. Something like a great dane I'm fine with. But a cocker spaniel, I'll have a fit. Phobias are strange things.




Duskypearls -> RE: Tough Guy with Dog Phobia (12/22/2011 10:06:44 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BKSir

Thankfully I'm not quite that bad, but I understand how he feels. Small dogs scare the hell out of me. Something like a great dane I'm fine with. But a cocker spaniel, I'll have a fit. Phobias are strange things.


Cocker spaniels can be strange things, aggressively territorial over people and things. They're not my favorite dogs, BK.




BKSir -> RE: Tough Guy with Dog Phobia (12/22/2011 11:00:20 PM)

Any small dog really, the smaller, the worse it is. Cockers being an exception. And I do know why. When I was a kid, about 7, twice, two different cockers tore up my hand something fierce. Have never gotten past that for some reason.




Iamsemisweet -> RE: Tough Guy with Dog Phobia (12/22/2011 11:09:20 PM)

My parents had a Pomeranian when I was a kid that was the most vicious dog I have ever been around, and I have trained dogs for years. I still have scars on my hands from that little bastard.
Cockers, along with some other breeds, are subject to rage syndrome, a mental disorder in some breeds. It is really frightening to see.




webcamchastity -> RE: Tough Guy with Dog Phobia (12/23/2011 2:02:59 AM)

I've got a good idea, why don't I type weird/funny news story into google and then paste whatever shit it comes up with all over these boards..... oh wait someone's already doing that.




Marc2b -> RE: Tough Guy with Dog Phobia (12/23/2011 6:57:50 AM)

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I've got a good idea, why don't I type weird/funny news story into google and then paste whatever shit it comes up with all over these boards..... oh wait someone's already doing that.


You say that like it's a bad thing.

Seriously, what is wrong with sharing something you found interesting?





Hillwilliam -> RE: Tough Guy with Dog Phobia (12/23/2011 7:26:10 AM)

I had a relative who was deathly afraid of German Shepherds because one had bitten her when she was little. My old shepherd seemed to sense this and would just lie across the room from her and not get closer. Maybe I'm attributing too much intelligence to that dog but over a series of visits, he would get a tiny bit closer and closer until she acted uncomfortable and then back off. One day, he just put his chin on her knee and she reached out and petted him. An hour later, he was on the couch beside her with his head on her lap getting ear scritchies.
It's like he saw her phobia and was damn well determined that "You might be afraid of Shepherds but you're gonna like me"




Snort -> RE: Tough Guy with Dog Phobia (12/23/2011 8:37:10 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BKSir
Small dogs scare the hell out of me...


Me, too. Well, actually, it's really women with ill tempered rat dogs who coo at them while the miserable curs yip incessantly and drill holes in the furniture. It's just easier to tell them I can't see them again because I'm scared of micro dogs... Does this make me a fake?




LaTigresse -> RE: Tough Guy with Dog Phobia (12/23/2011 8:56:39 AM)

I've got a small 12#, medium 44# and large 85#. The one dog I do not always trust around kids.......the 12#. She gets time outs. Small dogs, especially terrier breeds, have little dog syndrome. I can understand why some people would be a bit leery of them.

In all the years I've worked with dogs, all of my work with 'vicious' rescues in doggy rehab, a lifetime around dogs of all sizes shapes and breeds.......there is only one that has ever made me nervous and it was my youngest sister's dog. That dog just wasn't wrapped right. He was a GSD mix, big, and not right mentally. One minute he would be mister happy and the next he would be coming at you like he wanted to tear you limb to limb. If not for my sister I could have shot that dog without an ounce of remorse. Unfortunately my youngest brother had to do it after it started a fight with two neighbour dogs and lost.




Duskypearls -> RE: Tough Guy with Dog Phobia (12/23/2011 9:14:46 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Snort


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ORIGINAL: BKSir
Small dogs scare the hell out of me...


Me, too. Well, actually, it's really women with ill tempered rat dogs who coo at them while the miserable curs yip incessantly and drill holes in the furniture. It's just easier to tell them I can't see them again because I'm scared of micro dogs... Does this make me a fake?


Nah, Snort, it doesn't make you a fake. In fact it's smart to be wary of anyone allowing/condoning/encouraging any animal to be unstable, destructive, and unbalanced within any unit. It's usually indicative of the human being ignorant (benign or otherwise) of the "top down" required dynamics of the animal pack, which keeps it in order. They tend to relinquish too much of their power, which forces a weaker-minded animal to fill the power vacuum they've created. Nature abhors a vacuum. That leaves an unstable animal in the controlling, dominant position, which is usually disastrous in outcome.




Snort -> RE: Tough Guy with Dog Phobia (12/23/2011 9:24:27 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Duskypearls


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ORIGINAL: Snort


quote:

ORIGINAL: BKSir
Small dogs scare the hell out of me...


Me, too. Well, actually, it's really women with ill tempered rat dogs who coo at them while the miserable curs yip incessantly and drill holes in the furniture. It's just easier to tell them I can't see them again because I'm scared of micro dogs... Does this make me a fake?


Nah, Snort, it doesn't make you a fake. In fact it's smart to be wary of anyone allowing/condoning/encouraging any animal to be unstable, destructive, and unbalanced within any unit. It's usually indicative of the human being ignorant (benign or otherwise) of the "top down" required dynamics of the animal pack, which keeps it in order. They tend to relinquish too much of their power, which forces a weaker-minded animal to fill the power vacuum they've created. Nature abhors a vacuum. That leaves an unstable animal in the controlling, dominant position, which is usually disastrous in outcome.


Oh, that would be a fun thread all by itself... "the natural order of things".

I have raised an embarrassing variety of critters, and in the animal world dominance is a Very common theme. Sometimes it's male dominance, often female (just ask my mare, she'll show you how it's done, yep, yep), but ALWAYS there is a need to fill that power vacuum if the human doesn't manage it.





Duskypearls -> RE: Tough Guy with Dog Phobia (12/23/2011 9:36:24 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Snort


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ORIGINAL: Duskypearls


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ORIGINAL: Snort


quote:

ORIGINAL: BKSir
Small dogs scare the hell out of me...


Me, too. Well, actually, it's really women with ill tempered rat dogs who coo at them while the miserable curs yip incessantly and drill holes in the furniture. It's just easier to tell them I can't see them again because I'm scared of micro dogs... Does this make me a fake?


Nah, Snort, it doesn't make you a fake. In fact it's smart to be wary of anyone allowing/condoning/encouraging any animal to be unstable, destructive, and unbalanced within any unit. It's usually indicative of the human being ignorant (benign or otherwise) of the "top down" required dynamics of the animal pack, which keeps it in order. They tend to relinquish too much of their power, which forces a weaker-minded animal to fill the power vacuum they've created. Nature abhors a vacuum. That leaves an unstable animal in the controlling, dominant position, which is usually disastrous in outcome.


Oh, that would be a fun thread all by itself... "the natural order of things".

I have raised an embarrassing variety of critters, and in the animal world dominance is a Very common theme. Sometimes it's male dominance, often female (just ask my mare, she'll show you how it's done, yep, yep), but ALWAYS there is a need to fill that power vacuum if the human doesn't manage it.




Right you are, Snort. It would seem to me EVERYTHING in nature, including us, is subject to those that dominate, and those dominated, the differences being in the variation of degrees. Even stronger, more functional weeds will crowd out the weaker. You especially see this in the animal kingdom. Hardier, more aggressive creatures get the food, shelter, and mating privileges. You can't have "Too many Chiefs and no Indians," as it were, and "Too many cook spoil the broth," or chaos reigns.

Mares with PMS (Pissy Mare Syndrome) are famous for bossing everyone/thing around, and it is usually a result of a hormonal imbalance coupled with subsequent leaned behaviors. Personally, I'd rather have a nutty, horny stud horse bouncing on my head everyday, than a pissy mare, as they can be awfully cranky and unreasonable!

BTW, I am a GREAT fan of Cesar Milan, The Dog Whisperer, and found his techniques, used appropriately, to be very effective when dealing with humans and animals.

Tell us about your mare, Snort, will you?

And how about starting and fleshing out that natural order of things thread? I'm already interested.




Iamsemisweet -> RE: Tough Guy with Dog Phobia (12/23/2011 10:59:09 AM)

The natural order of things would be fun to discuss.

I had a bitch Belgian Tervuren who was by far and away the most aggressive, fearless animal I have ever been around.  She never harmed a human in her life, I trusted her absolutely.  She HATED other female dogs, though, especially ones of her own breed.  On the rare occasions when behavior management didn't work, and she got a chance to go after another bitch, she wasn't fooling around, she was trying to kill them. 
My intact male dogs, on the other hand, try to act and sound aggressive to each other, but they aren't.  I have watched them when they get annoyed with each other and get into "fights".  They are definitely pushing each other, but they are biting the air!  I have talked to a lot of other people who train a lot about this, and they all agree.  Bitch aggression is far harder to deal with than aggression between males.




Snort -> RE: Tough Guy with Dog Phobia (12/23/2011 11:19:27 AM)

I think a discussion on the natural order of things needs to wait until the current "all men are pigs, all women are hos" thread dies down...




LaTigresse -> RE: Tough Guy with Dog Phobia (12/23/2011 11:19:32 AM)

My 85# GSD is sporting a nice scratch on her big black nose at the moment due to pushing the line with a 12# bitch.[:D]




Snort -> RE: Tough Guy with Dog Phobia (12/23/2011 11:21:44 AM)

Lol, attitude is everything..




Hillwilliam -> RE: Tough Guy with Dog Phobia (12/23/2011 11:22:45 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Snort

I think a discussion on the natural order of things needs to wait until the current "all men are pigs, all women are hos" thread dies down...

Which one? There's usually a couple of them going at any time.




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