Collarspace Discussion Forums


Home  Login  Search 

John Boehner/Republicans are raising your taxes...


View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest
 
All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> Dungeon of Political and Religious Discussion >> John Boehner/Republicans are raising your taxes... Page: [1] 2   next >   >>
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
John Boehner/Republicans are raising your taxes... - 12/20/2011 2:24:35 PM   
farglebargle


Posts: 10715
Joined: 6/15/2005
From: Albany, NY
Status: offline 		Less money in your paycheck, thanks to the Republicans in Congress, and their pandering to Corporate Interests over regular working Americans like you.

Be sure to remember this in November, when you have a chance to send these "Tax and Borrow Conservatives" home...

_____________________________

It's not every generation that gets to watch a civilization fall. Looks like we're in for a hell of a show.

ברוך אתה, אדוני אלוקינו, ריבון העולמים, מי יוצר צמחים ריחניים
Profile   Post #: 1
RE: John Boehner/Republicans are raising your taxes... - 12/20/2011 2:40:45 PM   
willbeurdaddy


Posts: 11894
Joined: 4/8/2006
Status: offline 		Too bad its the Democratically controlled Senate that is holding things up. Nice try tho. (The Senate proposed 2 month extension is impossible to implement in time and was never intended to pass).

< Message edited by willbeurdaddy -- 12/20/2011 2:50:33 PM >

_____________________________

Hear the lark
and harken
to the barking of the dogfox,
gone to ground.

(in reply to farglebargle)
Profile   Post #: 2
RE: John Boehner/Republicans are raising your taxes... - 12/20/2011 2:43:33 PM   
mnottertail


Posts: 60698
Joined: 11/3/2004
Status: offline 		You mean with the they wont tack on the fuck habeas corpus bill on a fucking spending bill like your lawless ratpoison nazi teabaggers?

Or holding it up some other way...and don't froth the asswipe about kicking the can down the road....the other budget bills by the baggers got that one suitcased.

_____________________________

Have they not divided the prey; to every man a damsel or two? Judges 5:30


(in reply to willbeurdaddy)
Profile   Post #: 3
RE: John Boehner/Republicans are raising your taxes... - 12/20/2011 2:47:04 PM   
tazzygirl


Posts: 37833
Joined: 10/12/2007
Status: offline 		Its the Senate fucking this one up, fargle.

A different perspective...

The government does not have the money to continue the payroll tax cut. It's literally handing everyone in the U.S. an extra $1,000 if they make $50,000 a year, as reported by ABC News. That amounts to an extra $19.23 a week. That's nothing.

An extra $100 a week would be something, but an extra $19 a week doesn't mean anything in this economy. Not to mention, the only people getting the full $19 are people making a minimum of $50,000 a year. The lowest wage workers earn $15,080, or 30 percent of what's needed to get the full $19. That means the poorest people are only seeing a weekly pay increase of $5.70. That's the equivalent of 14 cents an hour.

The national debt is now sitting at just over $15 trillion with a national population sitting just under 313 million, according to the U.S. Debt Clock. That means if we were to place the national debt directly on the backs of every individual currently in the U.S., each person would owe $48,386. If we were to simply include every taxpayer, they would owe an extra $134,299.

Those are bad numbers, and it needs to stop. Thankfully, Congress seems to be getting that message. The payroll tax bill would cost taxpayers an extra $180 billion, as reported by the Associated Press. That's an extra $575 per person. Since we have no way to pay for that increase, Congress is stalling the bill. As hard as it is to say, it's the right thing to do, but maybe Congress should just let the tax cut expire.

http://news.yahoo.com/payroll-tax-cut-bill-waste-time-effort-money-222700898.html

19 dollars a week wont make a dent in anyone's pockets. It will make a massive dent in the national debt. Even Obama is ready to veto the Senate version.

_____________________________

Telling me to take Midol wont help your butthurt.
RIP, my demon-child 5-16-11
Duchess of Dissent 1
Dont judge me because I sin differently than you.
If you want it sugar coated, dont ask me what i think! It would violate TOS.

(in reply to farglebargle)
Profile   Post #: 4
RE: John Boehner/Republicans are raising your taxes... - 12/20/2011 3:30:46 PM   
farglebargle


Posts: 10715
Joined: 6/15/2005
From: Albany, NY
Status: offline 		Maybe you should be asking Boehner why he was scared of letting the Senate bill come to an up/down vote. Boehner did his usual insider-washington maneuvering, cancelled the up/down vote and substituted two options. (1) reject the bill and (2) reject the bill and call for a committee. So, instead of everyone just voting for the extension of the tax rates, so that they could work out a longer deal after the holidays, once again we're left with Boehner and the Republicans playing political games with your money.

And Obama's going to veto the Senate version he's already said he'd sign? Not likely. Of course, Boehner is terrified of this bipartisan legislation. I mean, it passed the senate by a 9:1 margin....


http://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/2011/12/20/obama-senate-payroll-bill-only-viable-way-to-prevent-tax-hike/

< Message edited by farglebargle -- 12/20/2011 3:36:00 PM >

_____________________________

It's not every generation that gets to watch a civilization fall. Looks like we're in for a hell of a show.

ברוך אתה, אדוני אלוקינו, ריבון העולמים, מי יוצר צמחים ריחניים

(in reply to tazzygirl)
Profile   Post #: 5
RE: John Boehner/Republicans are raising your taxes... - 12/20/2011 3:41:39 PM   
tazzygirl


Posts: 37833
Joined: 10/12/2007
Status: offline 		COMMENTARY | The payroll tax cut bill passed the Senate on Saturday, but as of today, the House is expected to refuse the new bill, and the president will veto it if it passes, as reported by ABC News.

From the yahoo link.

_____________________________

Telling me to take Midol wont help your butthurt.
RIP, my demon-child 5-16-11
Duchess of Dissent 1
Dont judge me because I sin differently than you.
If you want it sugar coated, dont ask me what i think! It would violate TOS.

(in reply to farglebargle)
Profile   Post #: 6
RE: John Boehner/Republicans are raising your taxes... - 12/20/2011 3:51:47 PM   
farglebargle


Posts: 10715
Joined: 6/15/2005
From: Albany, NY
Status: offline 		ABC? Bunch of Mickey Mouse journalists....

_____________________________

It's not every generation that gets to watch a civilization fall. Looks like we're in for a hell of a show.

ברוך אתה, אדוני אלוקינו, ריבון העולמים, מי יוצר צמחים ריחניים

(in reply to tazzygirl)
Profile   Post #: 7
RE: John Boehner/Republicans are raising your taxes... - 12/20/2011 4:19:29 PM   
tazzygirl


Posts: 37833
Joined: 10/12/2007
Status: offline 		Doesnt matter. I think it should expire.

_____________________________

Telling me to take Midol wont help your butthurt.
RIP, my demon-child 5-16-11
Duchess of Dissent 1
Dont judge me because I sin differently than you.
If you want it sugar coated, dont ask me what i think! It would violate TOS.

(in reply to farglebargle)
Profile   Post #: 8
RE: John Boehner/Republicans are raising your taxes... - 12/20/2011 4:31:43 PM   
Aylee


Posts: 24103
Joined: 10/14/2007
Status: offline 		967 days since the Senate passed a budget. Is the OP going to blame the republicans for that as well?

_____________________________

Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam

I don’t always wgah’nagl fhtagn. But when I do, I ph’nglui mglw’nafh R’lyeh.

(in reply to tazzygirl)
Profile   Post #: 9
RE: John Boehner/Republicans are raising your taxes... - 12/20/2011 4:35:56 PM   
tazzygirl


Posts: 37833
Joined: 10/12/2007
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Aylee

967 days since the Senate passed a budget. Is the OP going to blame the republicans for that as well?


I blame them all.

_____________________________

Telling me to take Midol wont help your butthurt.
RIP, my demon-child 5-16-11
Duchess of Dissent 1
Dont judge me because I sin differently than you.
If you want it sugar coated, dont ask me what i think! It would violate TOS.

(in reply to Aylee)
Profile   Post #: 10
RE: John Boehner/Republicans are raising your taxes... - 12/20/2011 6:48:46 PM   
erieangel


Posts: 2237
Joined: 6/19/2011
Status: offline 		There is no need "implement" anything on an extension.  Reed and McConnell came up with the 2 month extension as a compromise to give them time to figure out how to pay for the full-year of extension.  Boehner and his crew don't want that--they don't want the extension at all.  The tax cut paid for my new roof--I am now saving for electrical work, if I lose the tax cut I can't bring my house up to city code in time.

(in reply to willbeurdaddy)
Profile   Post #: 11
RE: John Boehner/Republicans are raising your taxes... - 12/20/2011 6:52:03 PM   
erieangel


Posts: 2237
Joined: 6/19/2011
Status: offline 		They don't want to give me an extra $10-$11 a week (which I saved to pay for a new roof) but they will continue the tax breaks for the wealthiest.  Which are we lease able to afford?

(in reply to tazzygirl)
Profile   Post #: 12
RE: John Boehner/Republicans are raising your taxes... - 12/20/2011 6:53:32 PM   
tazzygirl


Posts: 37833
Joined: 10/12/2007
Status: offline 		erie, I so get the hypocrisy of this issue.

Maybe when the hypocrisy gets so bad that its blatantly obvious to everyone, including the rich, they will get voted out.

_____________________________

Telling me to take Midol wont help your butthurt.
RIP, my demon-child 5-16-11
Duchess of Dissent 1
Dont judge me because I sin differently than you.
If you want it sugar coated, dont ask me what i think! It would violate TOS.

(in reply to erieangel)
Profile   Post #: 13
RE: John Boehner/Republicans are raising your taxes... - 12/20/2011 6:53:43 PM   
Theon38


Posts: 53
Joined: 8/12/2011
Status: offline 		When I hear that politicians pull tricks like this in order to pull the wool over the eyes of the sheeple, I always think, "That will never work!"

Then I come to websites like this and read what someone like what Fargle writes and I think, "Oh dear, not again."

(in reply to erieangel)
Profile   Post #: 14
RE: John Boehner/Republicans are raising your taxes... - 12/20/2011 6:55:05 PM   
Theon38


Posts: 53
Joined: 8/12/2011
Status: offline 		Well, the "wealthiest" are already paying the most progressive tax of any of us.

How many more times can you demonize the "wealthiest" before they run out of money?

(in reply to erieangel)
Profile   Post #: 15
RE: John Boehner/Republicans are raising your taxes... - 12/20/2011 7:24:46 PM   
tazzygirl


Posts: 37833
Joined: 10/12/2007
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Theon38

Well, the "wealthiest" are already paying the most progressive tax of any of us.

How many more times can you demonize the "wealthiest" before they run out of money?



Cry me a river




Attachment (1)

_____________________________

Telling me to take Midol wont help your butthurt.
RIP, my demon-child 5-16-11
Duchess of Dissent 1
Dont judge me because I sin differently than you.
If you want it sugar coated, dont ask me what i think! It would violate TOS.

(in reply to Theon38)
Profile   Post #: 16
RE: John Boehner/Republicans are raising your taxes... - 12/20/2011 8:11:04 PM   
willbeurdaddy


Posts: 11894
Joined: 4/8/2006
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: erieangel

There is no need "implement" anything on an extension.  Reed and McConnell came up with the 2 month extension as a compromise to give them time to figure out how to pay for the full-year of extension.  Boehner and his crew don't want that--they don't want the extension at all.  The tax cut paid for my new roof--I am now saving for electrical work, if I lose the tax cut I can't bring my house up to city code in time.


You might actually want to read the bill before you make statements like that. You are 100% wrong. The bill changes the basis of taxation in order to ensure "fairness" between high and low income if there is no extension beyond 2 months. Instead of taxing all income until you reach the cap it prorates the cap to a monthly amount. Essentially 12 caps a year. It requires reprogramming every single payroll system in the country, a 3 to 6 month process.

_____________________________

Hear the lark
and harken
to the barking of the dogfox,
gone to ground.

(in reply to erieangel)
Profile   Post #: 17
RE: John Boehner/Republicans are raising your taxes... - 12/20/2011 8:12:18 PM   
willbeurdaddy


Posts: 11894
Joined: 4/8/2006
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Theon38

Well, the "wealthiest" are already paying the most progressive tax of any of us.

How many more times can you demonize the "wealthiest" before they run out of money?


Till everybody is poor except those who run the government, of course.

_____________________________

Hear the lark
and harken
to the barking of the dogfox,
gone to ground.

(in reply to Theon38)
Profile   Post #: 18
RE: John Boehner/Republicans are raising your taxes... - 12/20/2011 9:16:05 PM   
MrRodgers


Posts: 10542
Joined: 7/30/2005
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

Too bad its the Democratically controlled Senate that is holding things up. Nice try tho. (The Senate proposed 2 month extension is impossible to implement in time and was never intended to pass).

You don't really think you're kidding anybody do you ? Either you are just too partisan to see it or purposefully obfuscate ? It is the unconstitutional 60 votes to get past 'cloture' [sic] whatever that is, otherwise known as a filibuster (from the golf course no less) to get any bill to the floor, that is holding up progress.

That's so the capitalist and the corporatist need only buy that many...40. Nowhere in the constitution is there such a super majority except as specified.

This allows 40 (or more) senators to openly state that their no. 1 priority is to get Obama out, block every initiative and demagogue (lie through their teeth) about everything that the capitalist and corporatist/banker doesn't want. Now they threatened a shut down govt. for tax cuts for the wealthy and now threaten the same for tax increases on the middle class.

The writing has long since been on the wall people.

(in reply to willbeurdaddy)
Profile   Post #: 19
RE: John Boehner/Republicans are raising your taxes... - 12/20/2011 9:28:36 PM   
tweakabelle


Posts: 7522
Joined: 10/16/2007
From: Sydney Australia
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl


quote:

ORIGINAL: Theon38

Well, the "wealthiest" are already paying the most progressive tax of any of us.

How many more times can you demonize the "wealthiest" before they run out of money?


Cry me a river


Tazzy such selfish cynicism doesn't become you! Have you no idea of the harrowing circumstances some billionaires are facing in these times of financial stringency?

Why only the other day I was advised of the heart wrenching case of an average billionaire - a hedge fund manager, gentle soul, never hurt a fly in his life - who was faced with the dreadful reality that the Ferrari he had his heart set on wasn't available in aubergine, and that he would have to settle for scarlet red like the rest of the great unwashed. Haven't these people ever heard of prestige, I ask you? Don't they understand what exclusive means?

I could relate tale after tale of similar vindictive abuse, harassment and malice directed at the wealth creators on whom we all rely for our financial survival. And don't get me started on those unspeakable Occupy people!

It simply has to cease immediately. Billionaires are sensitive types, shy unassuming achievers and if Congress doesn't stop harassing them, then they'll simply fire the lot of them and buy themselves another Congress.

Enough is enough (unless you're talking about a billionaire's bank account, in which case, enough is never enough!)

< Message edited by tweakabelle -- 12/20/2011 9:32:46 PM >

_____________________________



(in reply to tazzygirl)
Profile   Post #: 20
Page:   [1] 2   next >   >>
All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> Dungeon of Political and Religious Discussion >> John Boehner/Republicans are raising your taxes... Page: [1] 2   next >   >>
Jump to:





New Messages No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages Locked w/o New Messages
 Post New Thread
 Reply to Message
 Post New Poll
 Submit Vote
 Delete My Own Post
 Delete My Own Thread
 Rate Posts




Collarchat.com © 2025
Terms of Service Privacy Policy Spam Policy

0.078