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RE: Really getting nasty and will only get nastier.... - 12/15/2011 4:36:56 PM   
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Brings up an interesting point.  No poor man or woman could ever run for POTUS.  Where did they get their wealth?

Perry - lifelong civil servant.
Gingrich - bribes and kickbacks.
Romney - management (aka - layoffs and offshoring).
Huntsman - inherited wealth (aka sitting on his rump).

Seems all of them are vulnerable based on how they got rich.

Palin's got a different version - she capitalized on her celebrity status and sold books and charged for speeches.



You usually dont bullshit like this.

Consulting jobs, and even lobbying arent "bribes and kickback", and Bain Capital created 10s of thousands of more jobs than his companys cut or offshored. If even you are getting this asinine, there must be a great fear of both in the Dem camp.


I apologize for paraphrasing ol' Newt regarding what Bain did.  And I doubt that you honestly think that Newt's money was earned honestly and that his Fannie Mae payoff of $300K was on the up and up, and that his censure was for honest activities.



No need to apologize, even the GOP candidates are accusing him of taking bribes.

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RE: Really getting nasty and will only get nastier.... - 12/16/2011 4:59:13 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

Brings up an interesting point.  No poor man or woman could ever run for POTUS.  Where did they get their wealth?

Perry - lifelong civil servant.
Gingrich - bribes and kickbacks.
Romney - management (aka - layoffs and offshoring).
Huntsman - inherited wealth (aka sitting on his rump).

Seems all of them are vulnerable based on how they got rich.

Palin's got a different version - she capitalized on her celebrity status and sold books and charged for speeches.



You usually dont bullshit like this.

Consulting jobs, and even lobbying arent "bribes and kickback", and Bain Capital created 10s of thousands of more jobs than his companys cut or offshored. If even you are getting this asinine, there must be a great fear of both in the Dem camp.


The plural of company is companies Mr. Economic Genius.

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RE: Really getting nasty and will only get nastier.... - 12/16/2011 7:39:42 AM   
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Hey - at least he has the ability to debate a given topic

Unlike certain others, leftists mostly, he isnt forced to rely on trying to derail every thread with such pathetic and weak personal attacks as these


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The plural of company is companies Mr. Economic Genius.



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RE: Really getting nasty and will only get nastier.... - 12/16/2011 7:46:25 AM   
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RE: Really getting nasty and will only get nastier.... - 12/16/2011 7:48:06 AM   
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contract_with_America

Any who signed and supported this, are automatically liars and not to be trusted. The reason being is that when the Republicans had enough control to push some of these things through, they didn't. Why believe any of those that signed this?

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RE: Really getting nasty and will only get nastier.... - 12/16/2011 8:11:59 AM   
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contract_with_America

Any who signed and supported this, are automatically liars and not to be trusted. The reason being is that when the Republicans had enough control to push some of these things through, they didn't. Why believe any of those that signed this?

Newty was very clever never to say they would pass them.Only that they would be brought to the floor. I caught that little caveat at the time which told me it was BS.

Considering newt`s conduct in office,an act named the "Personal Responsibility Act", seems quite ironic.


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RE: Really getting nasty and will only get nastier.... - 12/16/2011 8:23:33 AM   
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contract_with_America

Any who signed and supported this, are automatically liars and not to be trusted. The reason being is that when the Republicans had enough control to push some of these things through, they didn't. Why believe any of those that signed this?



Why? Most were filibustered in the senate or vetoed by the president?

How is that a deficiency in the House?

You couldn't possibly think the House can create a law by itself???

could you?

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RE: Really getting nasty and will only get nastier.... - 12/16/2011 8:25:46 AM   
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No, but you think they could create and compromise on ones that could have some chance of passing.  The situation was much the same as the much vaunted Ratpoison republican jobs bill, they slapped that down in the senate and said get that stupid shit outta here too.

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RE: Really getting nasty and will only get nastier.... - 12/16/2011 8:56:28 AM   
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Back on topic?


"Giuliani went on list other Romney flip-flops -- on cap-and-trade and immigration -- before delivering what for conservatives must surely rank as a coup de grace of sorts. "I think Newt has his set of vulnerabilities, but [he has] a more consistent position with real ideas like Ronald Reagan had," he said.

Gingrich, of course, has flip-flopped quite a bit on major policy issues, including some of the same ones Romney has. And even Giuliani once flirted with the idea of softening his pro-choice views to satisfy the demands of the GOP electorate."

But hypocrisy aside, the fact that Giuliani is taking Romney to task, and in such a public way, is an unmistakable sign that some key power-brokers in the GOP are starting to reassess their past support for Romney -- and in fact, are back-pedaling away just as fast as they can.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/stewart-j-lawrence/rudy-giuliani-just-signed_b_1149963.html?


yikes...play`n the "R" card....... Ouch!

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RE: Really getting nasty and will only get nastier.... - 12/16/2011 8:59:25 AM   
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Well, Jesus, would you want to be standing shoulder to shoulder in a picture with any of these fucking clowns if you had a desire for a political future of any kind?

They better distance themselves, throw them under the bus, and run away if they ever want the floundering republican party to survive.

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RE: Really getting nasty and will only get nastier.... - 12/17/2011 10:03:03 AM   
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The nephew of National Review's founder effectively broke with the prominent conservative magazine after its editors published an editorial this week praising Mitt Romney and Jon Huntsman as worthy Republican presidential nominees.

"Brent Bozell, founder of the Media Research Center and several other right-leaning outfits, blasted National Review on his Facebook and Twitter accounts. His uncle was the late William F. Buckley Jr., the distinguished conservative writer and pundit.

The nephew of National Review's founder effectively broke with the prominent conservative magazine after its editors published an editorial this week praising Mitt Romney and Jon Huntsman as worthy Republican presidential nominees.

Brent Bozell, founder of the Media Research Center and several other right-leaning outfits, blasted National Review on his Facebook and Twitter accounts. His uncle was the late William F. Buckley Jr., the distinguished conservative writer and pundit.

"National Review's endorsement of Romney & Huntsman proves only that this is no longer the magazine of William F. Buckley Jr.," Bozell wrote. "My uncle would be appalled."

Bozell is a prominent critic of alleged liberal media bias.

The National Review editorial, though, was not an official endorsement of Romney or Huntsman. The mentions of the former Massachusetts governor and former Utah governor, respectively, came after the magazine dedicated the bulk of the editorial to unloading on former House Speaker Newt Gingrich.

The Review, in its editorial, warned that conservatives should think twice before nominating Gingrich, who has surged to the front of national polls. "His character flaws -- his impulsiveness, his grandiosity, his weakness for half-baked (and not especially conservative) ideas -- made him a poor Speaker of the House," the editors wrote. "He should be an adviser to the Republican Party, but not again its head."

Ouch!!!!!

The editorial went on to also criticize Texas Gov. Rick Perry as "unable to bring gravity to the national stage" and Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann as lacking judgment, as well as Texas Rep. Ron Paul for his "conspiracy theories."

But the editorial praised Huntsman for his "solid record" and Romney as "highly intelligent and disciplined," despite concerns about "the liberal aspects of his record."

Romney and Huntsman frequently come under fire for being too moderate, though Gingrich has recently attracted the same charge from his opponents as he's broken into the lead


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/12/17/nephew-national-reviews-founder-blasts-magazine-over-romney-huntsman-comments/#ixzz1goe4nck1

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