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Owner59 -> On private conference call,cons told not to attack Obama personally... (12/9/2011 7:04:59 AM)








Bad news for 99% of our neo-con members........lol....[:D]

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/yahoo-exclusive-republicans-disclose-private-call-too-dangerous-175828684.html

Republicans on a private Republican National Committee conference call with allies warned Tuesday that party surrogates should refrain from personal attacks against President Barack Obama, because such a strategy is too hazardous for the GOP.

"We're hesitant to jump on board with heavy attacks" personally against President Obama, Nicholas Thompson, the vice president of polling firm the Tarrance Group, said on the call. "There's a lot of people who feel sorry for him."

Recent polling data indicates that while the president suffers from significantly low job approval ratings, voters still give "high approval" to Obama personally, Thompson said.

Voters "don't think he's an evil man who's out to change the United States" for the worse--even though many of the same survey respondents agree that his policies have harmed the country, Thompson said. The upshot, Thompson stressed, is that Republicans should "exercise some caution" when talking about the president personally.

On the call--which Yahoo News was invited to attend because of a mistake by someone on the staff of the Republican National Committee--Ari Fleischer, the former press secretary for George W. Bush, encouraged Republicans to turn around Democratic attacks lobbed at the GOP presidential candidates (Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich, for starters) for "flip-flopping."


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RNC conference call: Republicans wary of attacking Obama

http://news.yahoo.com/rnc-conference-call-republicans-wary-attacking-obama-201605345.html

Someone at the Republican National Commitee is probably kicking himself after inadvertently letting a Yahoo News reporter in on a private strategy session.

During the conference call, various Republican affiliates expressed concern that attacking President Barack Obama may prove too dangerous for the GOP.

“We’re hesitant to jump on board with heavy attacks” said Nicholas Thompson, vice president of Republican polling firm the Tarrance Group. “There’s a lot of people who feel sorry for him.”

Yahoo News reports that, “On the call — which Yahoo News was invited to attend because of a mistake by someone on the staff of the Republican National Committee — Ari Fleischer, the former press secretary for George W. Bush, encouraged Republicans to turn around the Democratic attacks lobbed at the GOP presidential candidates — Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich, for starters — for ‘flip-flopping.’”

“When it comes to flip-flopping, Barack Obama is the king of flip-flopping,” added Fleischer. “You can offer that to anybody,” he suggested.

Thompson also noted that Obama’s Truman-esque campaign strategy of running against a do-nothing Congress may backfire, according to poll data collected by his company.

Tarrance found that while the public’s disapproval of Congress in general remains extremely low, 46 percent approve of their own representative, compared to Obama’s approval rating of 44 percent in the same survey.

“It’s a tough road for him when you look at those numbers,” Thompson said.

The same poll showed that 58 percent disapprove of Obama’s handling of relations with Congress.









willbeurdaddy -> RE: On private conference call,cons told not to attack Obama personally... (12/9/2011 9:19:55 AM)

Why would that be bad news? Its good advice, but its not going to happen anyway.

Obama has no record to run on. His ONLY possible strategy is personal attacks and class warfare, and you can bet that the GOP will respond in kind.



mnottertail -> RE: On private conference call,cons told not to attack Obama personally... (12/9/2011 9:24:36 AM)

Since they have nothing to say or respond with, based on their ineptitude and lack of values, they will attack regardless of fact, as they are wont to do.



InvisibleBlack -> RE: On private conference call,cons told not to attack Obama personally... (12/9/2011 4:28:02 PM)

That conference call seems unusually intelligent for the RNC.



TheHeretic -> RE: On private conference call,cons told not to attack Obama personally... (12/9/2011 6:04:57 PM)

Ron, the President has recently tried to make having a record number of people getting food aid a reason to re-elect him. He has nothing but negativity and fearmongering to run on. Do we need to cover Alinksky yet again?




subrob1967 -> RE: On private conference call,cons told not to attack Obama personally... (12/9/2011 6:46:35 PM)

There's no reason to attack him, attacking his policies will be more than enough[:D]



Sanity -> RE: On private conference call,cons told not to attack Obama personally... (12/9/2011 7:27:54 PM)


Certain leftists have always called any discussion of this presidents policy racism, and I dont see that changing. The fact that their race card is all played out wont phase them any, theyre not bright enough to understand such things.



servantforuse -> RE: On private conference call,cons told not to attack Obama personally... (12/9/2011 7:33:34 PM)

It will all come down this statement from Clintons campaign chief all over again. " It's the economy, stupid"..



joether -> RE: On private conference call,cons told not to attack Obama personally... (12/9/2011 7:48:46 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity
Certain leftists have always called any discussion of this presidents policy racism, and I dont see that changing. The fact that their race card is all played out wont phase them any, theyre not bright enough to understand such things.


That's a pretty big brush your painting fully 35% of Americans with there Sanity. Which 'certain leftists' are you referring to exactly?

I have disagreements with the President's policy on different matters. But what you seem to fail to understand, is that I dont disagree with the President's methodology. The guy explains things as an educated person would. But stating the problem as best as understood. Followed by the answer to the solution and supporting evidence (which may also create secondary arguements which are given additional supporting material). This is generally followed by the 'pros and cons' of the arguement and why the President (or any educated person) did not choose one or more other options that was on the metaphorical 'table'. An this is just difficult for you to understand. Wish I could help you, but aparently George W. Bush is more your speed than Mr. Obama. The President really has this nation's wishs at heart and struggling like mad to get things going again....for all Americans....not just the 1%.

Its rather ironically like scientists on the Theory of Climate Change (i.e. Global Warming for the conservatives). The grand majority of scientists do not argue over whether the planet is growing warmer or at what rate. They argue on how best to combat the issue and what sort of long range effects this will have on the thousands of ecosystems around the planet. When I talk ecosystems, I refer to regional size areas, not 'town-ish' sized plots of land. When I watch/listen/observe conservatives jumping into the discussion, they often display a complete lack of understanding of what the arguement is about and insert their often unskilled mindsets to form a conclusion that has NOTHING to do with the arguement. That, those that argue against the other scientists must be on the conservative's side; when the reality is, its the conservative that lacks enough information to make an informed arguement.

I'm willing to give the President the benefit of the doubt provided he gives me a good reason and well thought out evidence to support his arguement. Likewise, is willing to be critized if there is a better arguement to handle a situation in another form and not let his ego get in the way. And also take responsibility and be accountable to not only what he says and does but what he doesnt say or do. That is kinda of what we as Americans want in an elected offical. He does that right now, whether you can admit it or not.



tazzygirl -> RE: On private conference call,cons told not to attack Obama personally... (12/9/2011 8:54:07 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: subrob1967

There's no reason to attack him, attacking his policies will be more than enough[:D]


I agree with you, rob. Now, dont have a coronary. [;)]



Moonhead -> RE: On private conference call,cons told not to attack Obama personally... (12/10/2011 4:51:51 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity
Certain leftists have always called any discussion of this presidents policy racism, and I dont see that changing.

It wasn't leftists who were making excuses for Herman Cain serial molesting women because as a black guy he had a higher sex drive and less self control than some honky, was it?
But of course, it's not acceptable to call any such comment playing the race card unless it's a comment about the Kenyan, is it?



TheHeretic -> RE: On private conference call,cons told not to attack Obama personally... (12/10/2011 6:04:04 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Moonhead

It wasn't leftists who were making excuses for Herman Cain serial molesting women because as a black guy he had a higher sex drive and less self control than some honky, was it?



I must have missed that, Moon. Got a link? Or are you just confusing the shit in your head wth reality again? Or perhaps you are thinking of one of our recently resigned House Democrat perverts or rapists?



slvemike4u -> RE: On private conference call,cons told not to attack Obama personally... (12/10/2011 9:10:12 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl


quote:

ORIGINAL: subrob1967

There's no reason to attack him, attacking his policies will be more than enough[:D]


I agree with you, rob. Now, dont have a coronary. [;)]

I,for one,wouldn't lose any sleep over him having a coronary.[8D]
Thats just me though [:D]



DomKen -> RE: On private conference call,cons told not to attack Obama personally... (12/10/2011 10:44:13 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: joether
That's a pretty big brush your painting fully 35% of Americans with there Sanity. Which 'certain leftists' are you referring to exactly?

I have disagreements with the President's policy on different matters. But what you seem to fail to understand, is that I dont disagree with the President's methodology. The guy explains things as an educated person would. But stating the problem as best as understood. Followed by the answer to the solution and supporting evidence (which may also create secondary arguements which are given additional supporting material). This is generally followed by the 'pros and cons' of the arguement and why the President (or any educated person) did not choose one or more other options that was on the metaphorical 'table'. An this is just difficult for you to understand. Wish I could help you, but aparently George W. Bush is more your speed than Mr. Obama. The President really has this nation's wishs at heart and struggling like mad to get things going again....for all Americans....not just the 1%.

This, as much as I disagree with the Presidents decisions and priorities, is why I will support him over any of the likely Republican nominees. We had 8 years of Reagan and 8 years of W and those 16 years of non reflective 'easy answers to complex problems' governance has almost destroyed this nation. We'll need decades of good to great leadership to get things back on track again and no one in their right mind thinks Gingrich or the rest of that crowd meets that minimal criteria.



Moonhead -> RE: On private conference call,cons told not to attack Obama personally... (12/10/2011 11:24:04 AM)

To be fair, neither does the Kenyan: I doubt he's capable of leading a choir where the other choristers have echolalia, never mind a congress that's mad keen on filibustering he can't back down to fast enough.



TheHeretic -> RE: On private conference call,cons told not to attack Obama personally... (12/10/2011 11:50:14 AM)

So we can take your post as a, "whoops, I was thinking of Weiner and Wu," then, Moon, with the racial bit just being your own nonsense?



DomKen -> RE: On private conference call,cons told not to attack Obama personally... (12/10/2011 12:01:13 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Moonhead

To be fair, neither does the Kenyan: I doubt he's capable of leading a choir where the other choristers have echolalia, never mind a congress that's mad keen on filibustering he can't back down to fast enough.

I'll take 4 more years of maddeningly slow progress over 4 years of mad bomber destructiveness a la Gingrich, Bachmann, Perry et al.



Owner59 -> RE: On private conference call,cons told not to attack Obama personally... (12/10/2011 12:06:03 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: TheHeretic


quote:

ORIGINAL: Moonhead

It wasn't leftists who were making excuses for Herman Cain serial molesting women because as a black guy he had a higher sex drive and less self control than some honky, was it?



I must have missed that, Moon. Got a link? Or are you just confusing the shit in your head wth reality again? Or perhaps you are thinking of one of our recently resigned House Democrat perverts or rapists?

It`s not that pervs and rapists aren`t amongst all parties and peoples.

It`s how the party leadership handles those situations that separate cowards from the responsible.

So far the dems have seemed to have booted their offenders where Deny Hastert coddled child-rapist Mark Foley how long?

For years I think.Almost Catholic levels of depraved indifference.

So and so did what?

Really,that bad?

Ok.

What happened to them?

Were the punished and booted or were promoted and praised.

It`s interesting that multiple accusations by multiple women unknown to one another would cause republicans to rally and support Cain but as soon as a consensual sexual affair gets mentioned,then they have a problem.

WTF?!!




Termyn8or -> RE: On private conference call,cons told not to attack Obama personally... (12/10/2011 10:01:28 PM)

quote:

This, as much as I disagree with the Presidents decisions and priorities, is why I will support him over any of the likely Republican nominees. We had 8 years of Reagan and 8 years of W and those 16 years of non reflective 'easy answers to complex problems' governance has almost destroyed this nation. We'll need decades of good to great leadership to get things back on track again and no one in their right mind thinks Gingrich or the rest of that crowd meets that minimal criteria.


And :

"I'll take 4 more years of maddeningly slow progress over 4 years of mad bomber destructiveness a la Gingrich, Bachmann, Perry et al."

I agree. Now does it bother you enough to mask the joy you must have over the fact that it bothers me ?

I can't think of a really good President in anything that could be called recent years.

T^T



Termyn8or -> RE: On private conference call,cons told not to attack Obama personally... (12/10/2011 10:06:29 PM)

quote:

Almost Catholic levels of depraved indifference.


I hope you don't mind me using that.

Now go wash up. :-)

T^T



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