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Real0ne -> Just when you think you heard it all, can it get more assinine than this? (12/8/2011 9:54:38 AM)

Seeing this stopped my eyes cold in their tracks!  Not only did the gubafia steal Burzinski'a antineoplaston patents for CURING cancer once and for all, but now this?   There is a definite pattern here and what is very interesting for those who have a "true" knowledge of the structure of the guv, that america is on the end not just "united states"!  You know united states of america with a united states patent!  Hmmm......

While you were at the leftee rightee bickerfest

This is unfucking believable!

I knew that supreme court ruling was for a damn good reason! 

quote:

Inventors:     Hampson; Aidan J. (Irvine, CA), Axelrod; Julius (Rockville, MD), Grimaldi; Maurizio (Bethesda, MD)
Assignee:     The United States of America as represented by the Department of Health and Human Services (Washington, DC)
Appl. No.:     09/674,028
Filed:     February 2, 2001
PCT Filed:     April 21, 1999
PCT No.:     PCT/US99/08769
PCT Pub. No.:     WO99/53917
PCT Pub. Date:     October 28, 1999

Current U.S. Class:     514/454
Current International Class:     A61K 31/35 (20060101); A61K 031/35 ()
Field of Search:     514/454



Cannabinoids as antioxidants and neuroprotectants


As used herein, a "cannabinoid" is a chemical compound (such as cannabinol, THC or cannabidiol) that is found in the plant species Cannabis saliva (marijuana), and metabolites and synthetic analogues thereof that may or may not have psychoactive properties. Cannabinoids therefore include (without limitation) compounds (such as THC) that have high affinity for the cannabinoid receptor (for example K.sub.i <250 nM), and compounds that do not have significant affinity for the cannabinoid receptor (such as cannabidiol, CBD). Cannabinoids also include compounds that have a characteristic dibenzopyran ring structure (of the type seen in THC) and cannabinoids which do not possess a pyran ring (such as cannabidiol). Hence a partial list of cannabinoids includes THC, CBD, dimethyl heptylpentyl cannabidiol (DMHP-CBD), 6,12-dihydro-6-hydroxy-cannabidiol (described in U.S. Pat. No. 5,227,537, incorporated by reference); (3S,4R)-7-hydroxy-.DELTA..sup.6 -tetrahydrocannabinol homologs and derivatives described in U.S. Pat. No. 4,876,276, incorporated by reference; (+)-4-[4-DMH-2,6-diacetoxy-phenyl]-2-carboxy-6,6-dimethylbicyclo[3.1. 1]hept-2-en, and other 4-phenylpinene derivatives disclosed in U.S. Pat. No. 5,434,295, which is incorporated by reference; and cannabidiol (-)(CBD) analogs such as (-)CBD-monomethylether, (-)CBD dimethyl ether; (-)CBD diacetate; (-)3'-acetyl-CBD monoacetate; and .+-.AF11, all of which are disclosed in Consroe et al., J. Clin. Phannacol. 21:428S-436S, 1981, which is also incorporated by reference. Many other cannabinoids are similarly disclosed in Agurell et al., Pharmacol. Rev. 38:31-43, 1986, which is also incorporated by reference.




Gee what is that called when the gub owns patents?   Private agencies acting as companies and quasi as in half-assed gubmint?   GM???

I want to patent rose bushes for the vitamin C in rose hips!

You peeps do not mind do you? 

Hell I wanna patent all plants and their derivative elements!

Fuck that I am going to patent water and you all can pay my sweet ass for use rights!   Thank goodness this is the land of the FREE! (to bend over and take it)

~adolf










tazzygirl -> RE: Just when you think you heard it all, can it get more assinine than this? (12/8/2011 10:10:39 AM)

NOW this? Its from 2003




Real0ne -> RE: Just when you think you heard it all, can it get more assinine than this? (12/8/2011 10:12:18 AM)

well since you didnt post it I did.






mnottertail -> RE: Just when you think you heard it all, can it get more assinine than this? (12/8/2011 10:18:04 AM)

Yeah, the medical uses of mary jane, reefer, funnie, hops, dope, chronic, schwag, joint, pot, herb, tea, skunk, grass, aunt mary, weed, boom, kif, ganga, blunt.... whatever you  all you hippies that smoke cigarrettes and beer and dope and this here shit wanna call it in your reefer madness and axe murdering raping ways, has been known for a long time.  There is no reason whatsoever for it to be illegal.





kalikshama -> RE: Just when you think you heard it all, can it get more assinine than this? (12/8/2011 10:23:23 AM)

I agree that patenting life is absurd and hope it is soon remedied. Maybe Tazzy will let us know about the status of the Genomic Research and Accessibility Act mentioned below?

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/13/opinion/13crichton.html

...This bizarre situation has come to pass because of a mistake by an underfinanced and understaffed government agency. The United States Patent Office misinterpreted previous Supreme Court rulings and some years ago began — to the surprise of everyone, including scientists decoding the genome — to issue patents on genes.

Humans share mostly the same genes. The same genes are found in other animals as well. Our genetic makeup represents the common heritage of all life on earth. You can’t patent snow, eagles or gravity, and you shouldn’t be able to patent genes, either. Yet by now one-fifth of the genes in your body are privately owned....

Fortunately, two congressmen want to make the full benefit of the decoded genome available to us all. Last Friday, Xavier Becerra, a Democrat of California, and Dave Weldon, a Republican of Florida, sponsored the Genomic Research and Accessibility Act, to ban the practice of patenting genes found in nature. Mr. Becerra has been careful to say the bill does not hamper invention, but rather promotes it. He’s right. This bill will fuel innovation, and return our common genetic heritage to us. It deserves our support.

A version of this article appeared in print on February 13, 2007, on page A23 of the New York edition




tazzygirl -> RE: Just when you think you heard it all, can it get more assinine than this? (12/8/2011 10:28:56 AM)

quote:

Not only did the gubafia steal Burzinski'a antineoplaston patents for CURING cancer once and for all, but now this?


This isnt a "now" moment.

Your comment about a gene patent from 2007 is really not germane to my post.

But, since you asked for the status.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h110-977

Status:
Introduced Feb 9, 2007
Referred to Committee View Committee Assignments
Reported by Committee (did not occur)
House Vote (did not occur)
Senate Vote (did not occur)
Signed by President (did not occur)




Real0ne -> RE: Just when you think you heard it all, can it get more assinine than this? (12/8/2011 10:31:50 AM)

Before you sidetrack this into your usual clusterfuck, since you obviously completely missed every point here, we have the gubafia who are throwning people in jail on one side and taking patents out for business on the other side of the coin!

That violates every collusion, rico, monopoly law that ever existed!

Which is why I said I plan on patenting water!  Of course my application will be rejected or stolen because thats infringing on their turf!

I dont do illegal drugs so you cant make hay with that shit like you do with termy.  Get used to it pal they own your ass and everything around it because you were sleeping and continue to sleep at the helm!




Real0ne -> RE: Just when you think you heard it all, can it get more assinine than this? (12/8/2011 10:34:40 AM)

quote:


Your comment about a gene patent from 2007 is real
quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

quote:

Not only did the gubafia steal Burzinski'a antineoplaston patents for CURING cancer once and for all, but now this?


This isnt a "now" moment.

Your comment about a gene patent from 2007 is really not germane to my post.

But, since you asked for the status.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h110-977

Status:
Introduced Feb 9, 2007
Referred to Committee View Committee Assignments
Reported by Committee (did not occur)
House Vote (did not occur)
Senate Vote (did not occur)
Signed by President (did not occur)


well then your post obviously was off topic.

I posted nothing in reference to a "gene" anything.

antineoplasteons are synthesized amino acidsthat have a cure rate that far exceeds any method used today.







mnottertail -> RE: Just when you think you heard it all, can it get more assinine than this? (12/8/2011 10:37:08 AM)

No, the clusterfuck is yours only, as always.  

It may interest you to know that taking out a patent is not really related in any meaningful way to its manufacture and use.

If there should ever come a day when marijuana is legalized, then drugs taking advantage of those properties will be manufactured and used.

Nothing real fucking profound about that, is there?

Keep digging for the secret unknown magical idea that will change the world, you haven't come close to finding it yet.







tazzygirl -> RE: Just when you think you heard it all, can it get more assinine than this? (12/8/2011 10:37:19 AM)

My post wasnt about gene therapy. Really R0, you should read better than this.




Real0ne -> RE: Just when you think you heard it all, can it get more assinine than this? (12/8/2011 10:46:02 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

It may interest you to know that taking out a patent is not really related in any meaningful way to its manufacture and use.



nuff said!  LOL

Again my ONLY position is as stated, I could give a shit less if it is ever legalized, I have no interest in it outside the criminal activity that is going on and perpetrated against the people by the gubafia today!

They have no legitimate authority by any devises to control by legislation, force, claim of ownership or otherwise the use of ANY read ANY read ALL read I dont give a damn WHAT as in ANY fucking drug and prevent people from using them PERIOD.

The only purpose is to FORCE money out of us to PAY FOR PERMISSION to exercise a RIGHT!  get it!

Since I doubt you do, in other words I want to call up a damn drug store and say hey give me pennicillin, x dose, x amount without being FORCED to byt the Gubafia to PAY some EXTORTIONIST FUCKING LICENSEE for what I can do myself.

But I am sure you will find a reason.









Real0ne -> RE: Just when you think you heard it all, can it get more assinine than this? (12/8/2011 10:47:15 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

My post wasnt about gene therapy. Really R0, you should read better than this.


well then explain yourself




tazzygirl -> RE: Just when you think you heard it all, can it get more assinine than this? (12/8/2011 10:52:45 AM)

http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=3953494

Post 5.




mnottertail -> RE: Just when you think you heard it all, can it get more assinine than this? (12/8/2011 10:59:46 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Real0ne
They have no legitimate authority by any devises to control by legislation, force, claim of ownership or otherwise the use of ANY read ANY read ALL read I dont give a damn WHAT as in ANY fucking drug and prevent people from using them PERIOD.


The US Constitution.....

Section 7
All bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.

Section 8
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
...
To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;





So, therein lies your clusterfuck. They do, regardless of any cheesehead untutored ranting eminating from the great state of WI.








kalikshama -> RE: Just when you think you heard it all, can it get more assinine than this? (12/8/2011 11:18:49 AM)

quote:

This isnt a "now" moment.

Your comment about a gene patent from 2007 is really not germane to my post.

But, since you asked for the status.


Thanks!

BTW, I wasn't responding to you or RO, but to the broader topic of patenting life, which I think is ridiculous.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/harriet-a-washington/gene-patenting-produces-p_b_645862.html

"How does it feel to be patented? There was a sense of betrayal. I mean, they owned a part of me that I could never recover. I certainly have no objection to scientific research ... but it was like a rape. In a sense, you've been violated, for dollars. My genetic essence is held captive."
--John Moore, the subject of US Patent No. 4,438,032

...Industry, which holds the purse strings and the patents, has largely abandoned the quest for cures to pursue cheaper avenues to maximizing profits on virus, medication and tissue patents. Still worse, our very bodies are being mined for corporate profits, with or without our consent. Legal and ethical conflicts with patient interests are inevitable because the tissues in question reside within or emanate from our bodies, but biotech and pharmaceutical companies control them, becoming, in effect, our biological landlords. In 1984, John Moore became the subject of Patent No. 4,438,032 when his physicians David Golde and UCLA surreptitiously patented a cell line from his cancerous spleen. In 1984 Golde struck a $3 billion deal with Sandoz to produce and refine nine valuable cancer-fighting pharmaceuticals produced by Moore's spleen. The organ had been removed as part of Moore's treatment for hairy cell leukemia but Golde had withheld its true value from Moore and misled Moore about the real reason why he was periodically extracting Moore's blood, tissue, bone marrow and semen, not as part of his therapy for the research laboratory. When Moore sued for rights to his own tissues he lost consistently in the courts, culminating in a Supreme Court decision for Golde and UCLA that noted its trepidation that a victory for Moore would have a chilling effect on medical research.




tazzygirl -> RE: Just when you think you heard it all, can it get more assinine than this? (12/8/2011 11:37:28 AM)

Could it be he just had a lousy attorney?




Real0ne -> RE: Just when you think you heard it all, can it get more assinine than this? (12/8/2011 3:42:51 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=3953494

Post 5.


ok you quoted me and responded regarding kalis post which I had not yet seen....




tazzygirl -> RE: Just when you think you heard it all, can it get more assinine than this? (12/8/2011 3:49:06 PM)

Dont know why you had not, it was right before mine.

~shrugs

No biggie




Moonhead -> RE: Just when you think you heard it all, can it get more assinine than this? (12/8/2011 3:54:27 PM)

The patent thing isn't even the worst of it: the Conspiracy stole his magic hat and bitch slapped his daughter's unicorn as well...




Real0ne -> RE: Just when you think you heard it all, can it get more assinine than this? (12/8/2011 3:55:42 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: kalikshama

quote:

This isnt a "now" moment.

Your comment about a gene patent from 2007 is really not germane to my post.

But, since you asked for the status.


Thanks!

BTW, I wasn't responding to you or RO, but to the broader topic of patenting life, which I think is ridiculous.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/harriet-a-washington/gene-patenting-produces-p_b_645862.html

"How does it feel to be patented? There was a sense of betrayal. I mean, they owned a part of me that I could never recover. I certainly have no objection to scientific research ... but it was like a rape. In a sense, you've been violated, for dollars. My genetic essence is held captive."
--John Moore, the subject of US Patent No. 4,438,032

...Industry, which holds the purse strings and the patents, has largely abandoned the quest for cures to pursue cheaper avenues to maximizing profits on virus, medication and tissue patents. Still worse, our very bodies are being mined for corporate profits, with or without our consent. Legal and ethical conflicts with patient interests are inevitable because the tissues in question reside within or emanate from our bodies, but biotech and pharmaceutical companies control them, becoming, in effect, our biological landlords. In 1984, John Moore became the subject of Patent No. 4,438,032 when his physicians David Golde and UCLA surreptitiously patented a cell line from his cancerous spleen. In 1984 Golde struck a $3 billion deal with Sandoz to produce and refine nine valuable cancer-fighting pharmaceuticals produced by Moore's spleen. The organ had been removed as part of Moore's treatment for hairy cell leukemia but Golde had withheld its true value from Moore and misled Moore about the real reason why he was periodically extracting Moore's blood, tissue, bone marrow and semen, not as part of his therapy for the research laboratory. When Moore sued for rights to his own tissues he lost consistently in the courts, culminating in a Supreme Court decision for Golde and UCLA that noted its trepidation that a victory for Moore would have a chilling effect on medical research.



Thanks!  I didnt even know about that!
What a crock of shit!

The problem with corporations being able to patent this stuff is that they can not produce it and withhold it from the public forever by not giving anyone a contract to build, hence they are now instead of serving the public as corporations were intended working in contrary of public interest.

That more case moore, that is a trespass on the person.   Now that can be sued out but he will need a good common law lawyer to do it, if its even possible at this time and the gubafia will rob you faster al capone would have.

this is incredibly disturbing to say the least that shit has gotten this corrupt.




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