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Owner59 -> OWS more popular than Ts...... (11/24/2011 7:27:08 PM)

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/10/13/8306261-occupy-wall-street-more-popular-than-tea-party?chromedomain=usnews

This Saturday marks one month since Occupy Wall Street protesters set-up camp at Zuccotti Park in Lower Manhattan. Since then the demonstrations have spread to dozens of cities across the country. This weekend, a global day of protests is planned, and organizers say they expect events to be held in more than 800 cities in 71 countries.

Clearly, the movement appears to be growing. Now we have some new information about how the rest of the country views what’s happening in Zuccotti Park and beyond.

From an NBC News/Wall Street Journal Poll released Wednesday:
•37% of the country tends to support the movement; 18% oppose; 25% have no opinion. That’s more than those who say they support the Tea Party -- just 26% say they support it, while 64% say they do not.
•The movement is most popular in the Northeast, where people tend to support it 48%-15%. It is least popular in the South where 30% support, 22% oppose.
•Perhaps counter-intuitively, the movement has its highest support among the highest income earners, (those making more than $75,000 year): 40% support, 24% oppose. Among the poorest, however, it is also popular (less than 30K year): 35% support, 11% oppose.
•Among ethnic groups, the protests are popular among African-Americans, 41% support, 7% oppose; among Hispanics 35% support, 15 oppose; among Whites 37% support, 18% oppose.
•Among political parties, unsurprisingly, the movement is most popular among Democrats (56%-6%), and least popular among Republicans, where a plurality do not support 17%-34%. Independents support 34%-17%.




MasterSlaveLA -> RE: OWS more popular than Ts...... (11/24/2011 7:35:42 PM)

 
Screw the Occupy FILTH... they and those who support them are SCUM!!!


  • Arson

  • Assault/Threats

  • Drugs/Dealing

  • Fraud

  • Illness/Death

  • Murder

  • Public disturbance

  • Rape/Sexual Assault

  • Sedition

  • Suicide/Overdose

  • Theft
    • Occupy Portland – Theft is ongoing
    • Occupy Boston – Store owner suffers 4 break-ins since camp began

  • Vandalism

  • http://www.verumserum.com/?p=33490


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    Owner59 -> RE: OWS more popular than Ts...... (11/24/2011 7:44:46 PM)

    More popular......that means more credibility and more support.


    Ha ha.......loser....[:D]




    MasterSlaveLA -> RE: OWS more popular than Ts...... (11/24/2011 8:14:10 PM)

    [:D]

    quote:

    ORIGINAL: Owner59
    loser
    [image]local://upfiles/687741/2C53FBE6A8B4496B9AB7517430E3312C.jpg[/image]







    Owner59 -> RE: OWS more popular than Ts...... (11/24/2011 9:04:15 PM)

    Let`s take the different signage the two groups carry......

    [image]http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/web05/2011/10/7/16/enhanced-buzz-16974-1318017638-0.jpg[/image]

    [image]http://www.thefoundist.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Occup-Wall-Street-Sign.jpg[/image]


    [image]http://img.ibtimes.com/www/data/images/middle/2011/10/07/170812-occupy-wall-street-protest-signs.jpg[/image]


    [image]http://boingboing.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/DSC06659.jpg[/image]


    [image]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-c6Bt20HrMCw/TpS2EU-48II/AAAAAAACbhg/Eu3UUwhUsJQ/s1600/occupy-wall-street-protest-signs-17.jpg[/image]

    [image]http://1.images.theweek.com/img/dir_0067/33691_slideshow_full/occupy-wall-street-protest-signs-a-slideshow.jpg[/image]


    [image]http://www.e-forwards.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Occupy-Wall-street-signs-best.jpeg[/image]


    [image]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-LmLP2_Ly6A8/TpS2gMXyFqI/AAAAAAACbjo/O2O17bDqR8Y/s1600/occupy-wall-street-protest-signs-06.jpg[/image]

    [image]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ruS8L5IyMNA/TpS2RyR0RuI/AAAAAAACbi0/hXnO9d_2eHo/s1600/occupy-wall-street-protest-signs-10.jpg[/image]

    [image]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-8bGg1t3x1wU/TpS1ngoWk9I/AAAAAAACbgA/JEfgrdoqqTk/s1600/occupy-wall-street-protest-signs-25.jpg[/image]


    [image]http://hungeree.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Occupy-Wall-Street-dogs09.jpg[/image]

    And their`s......

    [image]http://www.chapatimystery.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/herrbojpg.jpeg[/image]

    [image]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3628/3445978349_eba95dd6f4.jpg[/image]

    [image]http://www.journalscape.com/kenny/images/politics/obamahitler.jpg[/image]

    [image]http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/1398/slide_1398_20072_large.jpg[/image]

    [image]http://lh6.ggpht.com/_nweQSRDkBhs/TI5so9Fwq0I/AAAAAAAAANo/wIND7RUyNhU/gallery-smalltea5%5B4%5D.jpg[/image]

    [image]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_DmtdGP6kzMQ/S6zhZRa4ZCI/AAAAAAAANwg/hbKbk1e42VE/s1600/TeaParty-signs-3.jpg[/image]

    [image]http://media.carbonated.tv/49424_story__obama%20in%20the%20zoo.jpg[/image]

    [image]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QpTeQ6eFn2M/Tgjo-3XTXII/AAAAAAAAAVQ/yaSEnXjz_vA/s1600/912-teaparty-dc-we-came-unarmed-this-time.jpg[/image]



    No wonder one is more popular than the other.




    rulemylife -> RE: OWS more popular than Ts...... (11/24/2011 9:33:21 PM)

    quote:

    ORIGINAL: MasterSlaveLA


    Screw the Occupy FILTH... they and those who support them are SCUM!!!


  • Arson
  • Assault/Threats
  • Drugs/Dealing
  • Fraud
  • Illness/Death
  • Murder
  • Public disturbance
  • Rape/Sexual Assault
  • Sedition
  • Suicide/Overdose
  • Theft
    • Occupy Portland – Theft is ongoing
    • Occupy Boston – Store owner suffers 4 break-ins since camp began

  • Vandalism

  • http://www.verumserum.com/?p=33490


    [8|]




    Do you find it as interesting as I do that every one of these "news reports" came from the same conservative blogger site?

    Let me know when you can actually confirm any of it.




    Owner59 -> RE: OWS more popular than Ts...... (11/24/2011 9:41:46 PM)

    "Suspicious fire at Bank of America 2.7 miles from camp"

    2.7 miles?


    Guilty![:D]




    atursvcMaam -> RE: OWS more popular than Ts...... (11/24/2011 9:50:51 PM)


    quote:

    ORIGINAL: Owner59

    http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/10/13/8306261-occupy-wall-street-more-popular-than-tea-party?chromedomain=usnews

    This Saturday marks one month since Occupy Wall Street protesters set-up camp at Zuccotti Park in Lower Manhattan. Since then the demonstrations have spread to dozens of cities across the country. This weekend, a global day of protests is planned, and organizers say they expect events to be held in more than 800 cities in 71 countries.

    Clearly, the movement appears to be growing. Now we have some new information about how the rest of the country views what’s happening in Zuccotti Park and beyond.

    From an NBC News/Wall Street Journal Poll released Wednesday:
    •37% of the country tends to support the movement; 18% oppose; 25% have no opinion. That’s more than those who say they support the Tea Party -- just 26% say they support it, while 64% say they do not.
    •The movement is most popular in the Northeast, where people tend to support it 48%-15%. It is least popular in the South where 30% support, 22% oppose.
    •Perhaps counter-intuitively, the movement has its highest support among the highest income earners, (those making more than $75,000 year): 40% support, 24% oppose. Among the poorest, however, it is also popular (less than 30K year): 35% support, 11% oppose.
    •Among ethnic groups, the protests are popular among African-Americans, 41% support, 7% oppose; among Hispanics 35% support, 15 oppose; among Whites 37% support, 18% oppose.
    •Among political parties, unsurprisingly, the movement is most popular among Democrats (56%-6%), and least popular among Republicans, where a plurality do not support 17%-34%. Independents support 34%-17%.



    These polls seem to be missing some numbers 37+18+25 =80, where to the other 20 percent stand?
    26+64 = 90 10 percent missing
    Northeast only 63 percent opinions reported
    South only 52 percent reported
    over 75000 crowd only 64 percent reported
    under 30k ibkty 46 percent noted
    African Americans 48%, Hispanics 50%, Whites 55%
    your numbers do not support your claim.




    rulemylife -> RE: OWS more popular than Ts...... (11/24/2011 9:59:09 PM)

    quote:

    ORIGINAL: Owner59

    "Suspicious fire at Bank of America 2.7 miles from camp"

    2.7 miles?


    Guilty![:D]


    Well, they needed to get some exercise.

    So they took a long walk and decided "hey, let's start a fire".

    Goddamn hippies!

    Why do I feel like I'm in a time machine transported back to the '60's?

    Same conservative bullshit 40+ years later.

    The teabaggers are "patriots" but the OWS are "filth"




    willbeurdaddy -> RE: OWS more popular than Ts...... (11/24/2011 10:05:47 PM)

    Of course he uses an outdated poll from before people knew anything about OWS and before it turned violent. Try some recent numbers:

    The Occupy Wall Street movement is not wearing well with voters across the country. Only 33% now say that they are supportive of its goals, compared to 45% who say they oppose them. That represents an 11 point shift in the wrong direction for the movement’s support compared to a month ago when 35% of voters said they supported it and 36% were opposed. Most notably independents have gone from supporting Occupy Wall Street’s goals 39/34, to opposing them 34/42.

    Voters don’t care for the Tea Party either, with 42% saying they support its goals to 45% opposed. But asked whether they have a higher opinion of the Tea Party or Occupy Wall Street movement the Tea Party wins out 43-37, representing a flip from last month when Occupy Wall Street won out 40-37 on that question. Again the movement with independents is notable- from preferring Occupy Wall Street 43-34, to siding with the Tea Party 44-40.




    rulemylife -> RE: OWS more popular than Ts...... (11/24/2011 10:10:54 PM)

    quote:

    ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

    Of course he uses an outdated poll from before people knew anything about OWS and before it turned violent. Try some recent numbers:

    The Occupy Wall Street movement is not wearing well with voters across the country. Only 33% now say that they are supportive of its goals, compared to 45% who say they oppose them. That represents an 11 point shift in the wrong direction for the movement’s support compared to a month ago when 35% of voters said they supported it and 36% were opposed. Most notably independents have gone from supporting Occupy Wall Street’s goals 39/34, to opposing them 34/42.

    Voters don’t care for the Tea Party either, with 42% saying they support its goals to 45% opposed. But asked whether they have a higher opinion of the Tea Party or Occupy Wall Street movement the Tea Party wins out 43-37, representing a flip from last month when Occupy Wall Street won out 40-37 on that question. Again the movement with independents is notable- from preferring Occupy Wall Street 43-34, to siding with the Tea Party 44-40.



    That was interesting Willbeur, but are you ever going to learn to cite your sources?

    Because I would like to read it firsthand.




    willbeurdaddy -> RE: OWS more popular than Ts...... (11/24/2011 10:12:42 PM)


    quote:

    ORIGINAL: rulemylife

    quote:

    ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

    Of course he uses an outdated poll from before people knew anything about OWS and before it turned violent. Try some recent numbers:

    The Occupy Wall Street movement is not wearing well with voters across the country. Only 33% now say that they are supportive of its goals, compared to 45% who say they oppose them. That represents an 11 point shift in the wrong direction for the movement’s support compared to a month ago when 35% of voters said they supported it and 36% were opposed. Most notably independents have gone from supporting Occupy Wall Street’s goals 39/34, to opposing them 34/42.

    Voters don’t care for the Tea Party either, with 42% saying they support its goals to 45% opposed. But asked whether they have a higher opinion of the Tea Party or Occupy Wall Street movement the Tea Party wins out 43-37, representing a flip from last month when Occupy Wall Street won out 40-37 on that question. Again the movement with independents is notable- from preferring Occupy Wall Street 43-34, to siding with the Tea Party 44-40.



    That was interesting Willbeur, but are you ever going to learn to cite your sources?

    Because I would like to read it firsthand.



    Google is your friend.




    BanthaSamantha -> RE: OWS more popular than Ts...... (11/24/2011 10:27:06 PM)

    Here's the link to the more recent poll.

    http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2011/11/occupy-wall-street-favor-fading.html

    As for those folks posting crime and sign examples: I think you might be guilty of a little Faulty Generalization.




    MasterSlaveLA -> RE: OWS more popular than Ts...... (11/24/2011 11:26:39 PM)

    quote:

    ORIGINAL: rulemylife

    OWS are "filth"



    Yes, they are... glad you agree. [:D]





    BanthaSamantha -> RE: OWS more popular than Ts...... (11/25/2011 12:44:28 AM)


    quote:

    ORIGINAL: atursvcMaam

    These polls seem to be missing some numbers 37+18+25 =80, where to the other 20 percent stand?
    26+64 = 90 10 percent missing
    Northeast only 63 percent opinions reported
    South only 52 percent reported
    over 75000 crowd only 64 percent reported
    under 30k ibkty 46 percent noted
    African Americans 48%, Hispanics 50%, Whites 55%
    your numbers do not support your claim.




    [image]local://upfiles/1258223/0CD048499D7A4AF2B5282D02C67F5965.jpg[/image]




    tazzygirl -> RE: OWS more popular than Ts...... (11/25/2011 2:34:50 AM)

    quote:

    Occupy Fort Collins – Member arrested, $10 million in damage


    Benjamin David Gilmore, 29, A republican and a Ron Paul supporter



    I mean, really, whats the point? verumserum is half reporting facts and making up some as they go along.




    Sanity -> RE: OWS less popular than snake dung...... (11/25/2011 4:30:59 AM)


    Let me know when you figure out that there are clickable links on each line that will take you to the related news article

    quote:

    ORIGINAL: rulemylife

    quote:

    ORIGINAL: MasterSlaveLA


    Screw the Occupy FILTH... they and those who support them are SCUM!!!


  • Arson
  • Assault/Threats
  • Drugs/Dealing
  • Fraud
  • Illness/Death
  • Murder
  • Public disturbance
  • Rape/Sexual Assault
  • Sedition
  • Suicide/Overdose
  • Theft
    • Occupy Portland – Theft is ongoing
    • Occupy Boston – Store owner suffers 4 break-ins since camp began

  • Vandalism

  • http://www.verumserum.com/?p=33490


    [8|]




    Do you find it as interesting as I do that every one of these "news reports" came from the same conservative blogger site?

    Let me know when you can actually confirm any of it.





    Sanity -> RE: OWS less popular than snake dung...... (11/25/2011 4:32:27 AM)


    Are you claiming that every OWS person is a far left Obama supporter now [:D]

    quote:

    ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

    quote:

    Occupy Fort Collins – Member arrested, $10 million in damage


    Benjamin David Gilmore, 29, A republican and a Ron Paul supporter



    I mean, really, whats the point? verumserum is half reporting facts and making up some as they go along.




    tazzygirl -> RE: OWS more popular than Ts...... (11/25/2011 4:36:11 AM)

    Oh, and rule, check out the last link in that list.... lol.... its not even reported to be an OWS incident.

    quote:

    Hmmm…I watched the clip but now it seems to be failing. I’ll repost the clip once their server is working again. For now, here’s the story:

    In an unprecedented crime, someone has spray-painted graffiti on the wall at the governor’s residence here in Harrisburg.

    State Police just began the investigation so they don’t know when it happened, but they think sometime within the last 24 hours. But, CBS 21 has exclusive pictures of the graffiti.

    It says ‘Wolf-Pac’ and then below it says ‘freedom > government’. So, what is Wolf-Pac? Well, like the Tea Party and the Occupy protesters it’s yet another political movement that has a website.


    http://www.verumserum.com/?p=31607

    They cant even get their own lies straight.




    DarkSteven -> RE: OWS more popular than Ts...... (11/25/2011 5:17:31 AM)

    I would certainly hope that OWS has more popularity.

    The Tea Party derives its strength from what it can do at the ballot box. Its endorsement can make or kill a GOP candidacy.

    OWS derives its strength from popular support.  Without that, they're nothing.

    Saying that OWS is more popular could be countered by saying that the Tea Party is more feared at the ballot box.






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