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hardcybermaster -> frozen planet on BBC (11/23/2011 5:24:57 PM)
I have been watching the frozen planet series on the beeb and have been amazed and totally dumbstruck by the incredible photography and the bizarre and almost unbelievable things that the animals and sea creatures do to survive at our north and south poles( check out todays wolves v bison section) but I have also been told that the last of the series which concearns itself with global warming will not be shown in america because too many people over there don't believe it. I guess we can't blame the american people for this, we have to blame the networks who are too scared to show it but if a brilliant man like David Attenborough who has no political alliance as far as I know can't get the message through who can?

LadyHibiscus -> RE: frozen planet on BBC (11/23/2011 5:30:35 PM)
I love David Attenborough! There's a station called "Green" that shows all manner of stuff about climate change and its effects, and the Discovery channels and National Geographic do, too. So, if it's not being shown here, there are othwr reasons, since climate change gets rammed down our throats regularly.

hardcybermaster -> RE: frozen planet on BBC (11/23/2011 5:33:55 PM)
how many veiwers does "green" get? This stuff needs to be out there where millions can see it, in a non political medium

hardcybermaster -> RE: frozen planet on BBC (11/23/2011 5:35:38 PM)
by the way the discovery channel co produced the series so surely they have to show it quote: ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus I love David Attenborough! There's a station called "Green" that shows all manner of stuff about climate change and its effects, and the Discovery channels and National Geographic do, too. So, if it's not being shown here, there are othwr reasons, since climate change gets rammed down our throats regularly.

LadyHibiscus -> RE: frozen planet on BBC (11/23/2011 5:40:38 PM)
I have seen previews for the show, so it will be here eventually. Green has a great array of science shows, lots of archaeology too. Not sure who owns it, it might be part of the Discovery juggernaut. Hard to deny climate change, the evidence is all around is! (I do not say "global warming" the overall temp might be going up, but it's becoming less temperate where I live)

PeonForHer -> RE: frozen planet on BBC (11/23/2011 5:46:37 PM)
I caught an episode this evening, on my new HD telly. Ah hell, I can't understand why I got out of the habit of those nature docs. This one was just unbelievably good. quote: I guess we can't blame the american people for this, we have to blame the networks who are too scared to show it but if a brilliant man like David Attenborough who has no political alliance as far as I know can't get the message through who can? God, I can only imagine. David Attenborough being cast as a 'commie'. Utterly ludicrous, but I can imagine some of those networks trying that on. Pretty much everyone here in the UK has grown up with that man's voice. I honestly think I'll be sadder when he checks out than I have been on the demise of any other celeb, in any field, to date.

Termyn8or -> RE: frozen planet on BBC (11/23/2011 5:55:48 PM)
FR Get Realplayer 11 and Youtube downloaded 3.3. Then you all in the good countries can send us your TV shows on the internet. T^T

PeonForHer -> RE: frozen planet on BBC (11/23/2011 6:08:51 PM)
You can get all of them anyway, using utorrent and downloading them from EZTV. Or so I hear. Mind you, I'm not sure I can recommend this procedure to an intensely law-abiding fellow such as yourself, Termy.

LadyHibiscus -> RE: frozen planet on BBC (11/23/2011 6:22:56 PM)
DAVID IS NOT ALLOWED TO DIE!

LookieNoNookie -> RE: frozen planet on BBC (11/23/2011 6:32:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: hardcybermaster I have been watching the frozen planet series on the beeb and have been amazed and totally dumbstruck by the incredible photography and the bizarre and almost unbelievable things that the animals and sea creatures do to survive at our north and south poles( check out todays wolves v bison section) but I have also been told that the last of the series which concearns itself with global warming will not be shown in america because too many people over there don't believe it. I guess we can't blame the american people for this, we have to blame the networks who are too scared to show it but if a brilliant man like David Attenborough who has no political alliance as far as I know can't get the message through who can? #1) "Global Warming" isn't something that's debated by Americans.....it's something that's debated by scientists. #2) Sun spots....(and sun cycles) are a known issue....one that has multi decadal (sp?) relevance and.... #3) We can do better. It's that fucking simple. No one knows what the issues are, the Earth has gone through global cooling and warming cycles before...and it will again....with us and....as history has shown time and again....without us. Interestingly, with the ice ledges dropping off (cooling the oceans), it causes odd scenarios....such as cooling (of the oceans).....the "belts' that run through the ocean are in fact cooling....causing untold slowing and.....havoc...the same belts that run through the sky are also cooling. Why? Because of carbon dioxide covering the earth, causing fewer solar rays to come in....interestingly as well....this keeps (our) heat in.....making it warmer (in some areas). Conundrum, at the very least. These multi decadal sunspot occurrences cause all number of strange things to happen in our little blue orb. And they've happened before....even when there were a few hundred people on the planet (none of which, as I recollect....had cars). We're polluting the globe...there's no debate on that. We're stealing fish from beautiful organisms worldwide that need them to survive. We're stealing from our children.....there's no debate about that as well. Global warming is a myth....or....it's so fucking real that we *can't* debate it but....debate it...we will. Sunspots? Maybe. Cars....probably. Coal....most assuredly. And by the way....the carbon dioxide that we're purportedly burying ourselves with currently? They've been higher 7 times in known history. (Without cars or smokestacks). Can we do better (no matter whose science is correct)? Without question. Why is this a debate? Who gives a fuck who's right? Why does it matter? We can do better. Period. (By the way...to the OP...David Attenborough isn't any kind of genius....he's a Producer...of TV. His job is to make you think. You should).

Lucylastic -> RE: frozen planet on BBC (11/23/2011 6:38:20 PM)
Hm David is one of the hardest working people in the BBC< and has been for decades, he doesnt sit in an office and play with other peoples work, he actually does get out there and into the most inhospitable places int he world. Frozen Planet, is one of the best series out there, altho anything David has done in the past five years is spectacular admittedly the filming/videography is the BEST and leading edge. Theres a reason he is a SIR, he has done more for conservancy and awareness of the world and its animals in the UK than anyone, outside of gerald durrell(yeah Im biased Gerald was a legend in his lunchtime). Thats just plain ignorant, just a producer, sheesh

LookieNoNookie -> RE: frozen planet on BBC (11/23/2011 6:41:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic Hm David is one of the hardest working people in the BBC< and has been for decades, he doesnt sit in an office and play with other peoples work, he actually does get out there and into the most inhospitable places int he world. Frozen Planet, is one of the best series out there, altho anything David has done in the past five years is spectacular admittedly the filming/videography is the BEST and leading edge. Theres a reason he is a SIR, he has done more for conservancy and awareness of the world and its animals in the UK than anyone, outside of gerald durrell(yeah Im biased Gerald was a legend in his lunchtime). Thats just plain ignorant, just a producer, sheesh Just a Producer.....nice. Show me his degree. I'm one of the hardest working people in my industry, it sure as fuck doesn't prove I know shit. Give me a video camera....I'll show you how the world runs. (And you know what....it'll mean just as much).

LookieNoNookie -> RE: frozen planet on BBC (11/23/2011 6:45:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic Hm David is one of the hardest working people in the BBC< and has been for decades, he doesnt sit in an office and play with other peoples work, he actually does get out there and into the most inhospitable places int he world. Frozen Planet, is one of the best series out there, altho anything David has done in the past five years is spectacular admittedly the filming/videography is the BEST and leading edge. Theres a reason he is a SIR, he has done more for conservancy and awareness of the world and its animals in the UK than anyone, outside of gerald durrell(yeah Im biased Gerald was a legend in his lunchtime). Thats just plain ignorant, just a producer, sheesh Kaptain Kangaroo was one of the best children's shows ever produced....his kids were fucked up. A guy has a video camera and you think he's God? Wake the fuck up. Read.

Lucylastic -> RE: frozen planet on BBC (11/23/2011 6:48:14 PM)
yeah well you are biased, I didnt say anything about kids programs he doesnt just have a video camera, I dont have a god, Wake the fuck up READ

outlier -> RE: frozen planet on BBC (11/23/2011 7:05:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie (By the way...to the OP...David Attenborough isn't any kind of genius....he's a Producer...of TV. His job is to make you think. You should). I agree we all should. When do you plan to quit pontificating long enough to start? There is nothing mutually exclusive about being a genius and a producer of TV. A producer's job is to make product people want to see. Anything beyond that is what separates the merely competent from the rest. Rarely the product is better enough that it rises to the level of genius as a piece of art. If it can do all that and make you think; then it might very well qualify the man who can envision and execute it as a genius as both a producer and an educator. A rare combination and one that thinking intelligent people recognize and acclaim.

Lucylastic -> RE: frozen planet on BBC (11/23/2011 7:32:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic Hm David is one of the hardest working people in the BBC< and has been for decades, he doesnt sit in an office and play with other peoples work, he actually does get out there and into the most inhospitable places int he world. Frozen Planet, is one of the best series out there, altho anything David has done in the past five years is spectacular admittedly the filming/videography is the BEST and leading edge. Theres a reason he is a SIR, he has done more for conservancy and awareness of the world and its animals in the UK than anyone, outside of gerald durrell(yeah Im biased Gerald was a legend in his lunchtime). Thats just plain ignorant, just a producer, sheesh Just a Producer.....nice. Show me his degree. I'm one of the hardest working people in my industry, it sure as fuck doesn't prove I know shit. Give me a video camera....I'll show you how the world runs. (And you know what....it'll mean just as much). YOU said he was a producer of TV not me, I said" JUST" because he is MUCH More than ANY producer. Do you have any idea how long he has been in the business, what his credentials are? Sir David Frederick Attenborough OM(order of merit), CH(The Order of the Companions of Honour is an order of the Commonwealth realms. It was founded by King George V in June 1917, as a reward for outstanding achievements in the arts, literature, music, science, politics, industry or religion., CVO, ROyal Victorian Order CBE, Order of the British Empire FRS, Fellow of the Royal Society(The Society's core members are the Fellows: scientists and engineers from the United Kingdom and the Commonwealth selected based on having made "a substantial contribution to the improvement of natural knowledge, including mathematics, engineering science and medical science) FZS, The Council is the governing body of The Zoological Society of London FSAFellow of Society of Antiquaries of London oh and he has he studied geology and zoology and obtained a degree in Natural Sciences and Anthropology. David is a British broadcaster and naturalist. His career as the face and voice of natural history programmes has endured for more than 50 years. He is best known for writing and presenting the nine Life series, in conjunction with the BBC Natural History Unit, which collectively form a comprehensive survey of all life on the planet. He is also a former senior manager at the BBC, having served as controller of BBC Two and director of programming for BBC Television in the 1960s and 1970s. Attenborough became the Controller of BBC Two in March 1965, when told that he was being considered for the Director General of the BBC< he turned it down to go film elephants. He is widely considered a national treasure. I was not attempting to put down anyone involved in the filming /videographers dept, as they ARE brilliant, but so is David I certainly was NOT attempting to put YOU down, I didnt even know that you were a videographer/photographer/cameraman. Please accept my apologies if thats how it came across

LookieNoNookie -> RE: frozen planet on BBC (11/24/2011 4:52:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic quote: ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic Hm David is one of the hardest working people in the BBC< and has been for decades, he doesnt sit in an office and play with other peoples work, he actually does get out there and into the most inhospitable places int he world. Frozen Planet, is one of the best series out there, altho anything David has done in the past five years is spectacular admittedly the filming/videography is the BEST and leading edge. Theres a reason he is a SIR, he has done more for conservancy and awareness of the world and its animals in the UK than anyone, outside of gerald durrell(yeah Im biased Gerald was a legend in his lunchtime). Thats just plain ignorant, just a producer, sheesh Just a Producer.....nice. Show me his degree. I'm one of the hardest working people in my industry, it sure as fuck doesn't prove I know shit. Give me a video camera....I'll show you how the world runs. (And you know what....it'll mean just as much). YOU said he was a producer of TV not me, I said" JUST" because he is MUCH More than ANY producer. Do you have any idea how long he has been in the business, what his credentials are? Sir David Frederick Attenborough OM(order of merit), CH(The Order of the Companions of Honour is an order of the Commonwealth realms. It was founded by King George V in June 1917, as a reward for outstanding achievements in the arts, literature, music, science, politics, industry or religion., CVO, ROyal Victorian Order CBE, Order of the British Empire FRS, Fellow of the Royal Society(The Society's core members are the Fellows: scientists and engineers from the United Kingdom and the Commonwealth selected based on having made "a substantial contribution to the improvement of natural knowledge, including mathematics, engineering science and medical science) FZS, The Council is the governing body of The Zoological Society of London FSAFellow of Society of Antiquaries of London oh and he has he studied geology and zoology and obtained a degree in Natural Sciences and Anthropology. David is a British broadcaster and naturalist. His career as the face and voice of natural history programmes has endured for more than 50 years. He is best known for writing and presenting the nine Life series, in conjunction with the BBC Natural History Unit, which collectively form a comprehensive survey of all life on the planet. He is also a former senior manager at the BBC, having served as controller of BBC Two and director of programming for BBC Television in the 1960s and 1970s. Attenborough became the Controller of BBC Two in March 1965, when told that he was being considered for the Director General of the BBC< he turned it down to go film elephants. He is widely considered a national treasure. I was not attempting to put down anyone involved in the filming /videographers dept, as they ARE brilliant, but so is David I certainly was NOT attempting to put YOU down, I didnt even know that you were a videographer/photographer/cameraman. Please accept my apologies if thats how it came across I can't even figure out how my phone camera works. I was just saying that solely because someone (agreeably) very brilliant, shows a (no doubt, very well put together) thoughtful piece on global warming that implies that the current events (whether cooling or warming) are caused by man is just silliness when the science (not a videographer, whose intention was to tell a very specific story in a very specific fashion) says very specifically otherwise. Can we do better as a society? You bet. Can we pollute less? You bet. Are we adding to the problem? Unquestionably. Can we quit fucking up our oceans? Without debate. And we should. Immediately.

MissKittyDeVine -> RE: frozen planet on BBC (11/24/2011 5:20:33 AM)
Oy, don´t diss our Dave. Seriously, this is one thread that doesn´t need to turn into a bitchfest. The BBC are renowned for their stunning nature programmes and David Attenborough has earned his reputation. With every series he makes, I am yet again amazed at how there is still so much we don´t know about this planet of ours.

MissKittyDeVine -> RE: frozen planet on BBC (11/24/2011 5:22:52 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus DAVID IS NOT ALLOWED TO DIE! I think he´ll outlive most of us!

Lucylastic -> RE: frozen planet on BBC (11/24/2011 6:01:53 AM)
Heh, Yep Miss Kitty, I agree, Bless him he is what 85 now?

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