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Joe WalshVeterans In Occupy Movement 'Don't Understand ... - 11/21/2011 8:03:23 AM   
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U.S. Rep. Joe Walsh (R-Ill.) slammed Occupy Wall Street protesters during a town hall meeting in suburban Gurnee, Ill. Saturday, calling the movement a "well-orchestrated, well-funded, far left effort to disrupt the American people" before admitting that he had never attended a protest.

Walsh, a Tea Party favorite who apologized last week after screaming at a constituent during a similar event, was reacting to constituent criticism of the Occupy movement when he let them know how he felt about it.

"[Occupy is] an anti-American, well-funded left wing effort," Walsh told the crowd, to a mix of applause and boos. He also said the movement was created to "rile up Obama's left base."

From what he could tell, Walsh said, Occupy protesters are "generally spoiled, pampered, unfocused, clueless young people and a smattering of other people who don’t understand this country and are advocating anti-American solutions."

When one constituent stood up and pointed out that veterans have participated in the Occupy movement, Walsh brushed it off.

"I don't know how many veterans are part of the Occupy protest," he said. "I can't imagine it's many. But anyone who would advocate socialist solutions to certain problems in this country ... they don't understand this country."

Though much of the crowd seemed to support Walsh's stance, a few others stood up. An older woman told Walsh that Occupy protesters were not all "young socialists," but real people who "want jobs."




http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/20/joe-walsh-veterans-in-occ_n_1104421.html?ir=Politics


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RE: Joe WalshVeterans In Occupy Movement 'Don't Underst... - 11/21/2011 8:06:59 AM   
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""I don't know how many veterans are part of the Occupy protest," he said. "I can't imagine it's many. But anyone who would advocate socialist solutions to certain problems in this country ... they don't understand this country."


Says a corporate-socialist-republican.......




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RE: Joe WalshVeterans In Occupy Movement 'Don't Underst... - 11/21/2011 8:13:56 AM   
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Veterans lend influence to Occupy movement
By Verena Dobnik - The Associated Press
Posted : Thursday Nov 3, 2011 8:37:41 EDT
NEW YORK — Thousands of military veterans are heeding the rallying cry of Occupy Wall Street, saying corporate contractors in Iraq made big money while the troops defending them came home — and can't make a living now.

"For too long, our voices have been silenced, suppressed and ignored in favor of the voices of Wall Street and the banks and the corporations," said Joseph Carter, a 27-year-old Iraq war veteran who marched Wednesday to Zuccotti Park, the epicenter of the movement that has spread worldwide.

The former Army sergeant from Seattle spoke to fellow Occupy protesters and passersby on Broadway after joining about 100 veterans marching in uniform from the Vietnam Veterans Plaza through Manhattan's financial district nearby.

Their unemployment rate outstrips the national average and is expected to worsen. They worry about preservation of First Amendment rights. And they're angry.

A week before Veterans Day, generations of former military men and women threw their considerable weight behind the Occupy movement born in mid-September when about 100 protesters also marched in the Wall Street area.

"For 10 years, we have been fighting wars that have enriched the wealthiest 1 percent, decimated our economy and left our nation with a generation of traumatized and wounded veterans that will require care for years to come," said Carter, who leads the national Iraq Veterans Against the War group.

Requiring care now in California is a former Marine whose skull was fractured last week when he was injured by a projectile at an Occupy Oakland rally. Police there are now the subject of a formal investigation by the city's Citizens' Police Review Board.

In New York on Wednesday, police circled the veterans as they stood in formation in front of the New York Stock Exchange, chanting, "We are veterans! We are the 99 percent!" and "Corporate profits on the rise, soldiers have to bleed and die!"

By the stock exchange, Josh Shepherd, a former Navy petty officer 2nd class who was next to Olsen when he was injured, read the oath members of the armed forces take to defend the U.S. Constitution.

"We are here to support the Occupy Wall Street movement," he then declared.

Police officers on scooters separated the veterans from the entrance to the stock exchange. On the other side of the marchers was a lineup of NYPD horses carrying officers with nightsticks.

"We are marching to express support for our brother, Scott Olsen, who was injured in Oakland," former Army specialist Jerry Bordeleau told The Associated Press earlier.

At the intersection of Wall Street and Broadway, they paused for a moment of silence for the Marine who served two Iraq tours and remains hospitalized.

Olsen was honored Wednesday by veterans and other activists at Occupy protests around the nation, from Boston and Philadelphia to Los Angeles and Chicago.

"Wall Street corporations have played a big role in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan," said Bordeleau, 24, who served several years in Iraq over two tours ending in 2009 and now attends college in New York.

He said private contractors have reaped big profits in those countries "in pursuit of corporate interests that have had a devastating effect on our economy and our country, benefiting only a small number of people."

"The 99 percent have to take a stand," Bordeleau said, to rectify the biggest income gap between rich and poor since the Great Depression, fueled by what protesters say is Wall Street's overblown clout in Washington politics.

From the stock exchange, the veterans walked down Broadway to the bronze bull that symbolizes the stock market.

"Halliburton and Bechtel think these wars are swell," they chanted, invoking the names of American companies that received federal contracts for work rebuilding Iraq.

They say those who risked their lives fighting for their country have the right to protest economic policies and business practices that give them a slimmer chance of finding jobs than most Americans.

From 2008 to 2011, veterans' unemployment rose 5.1 percentage points, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

And a Department of Labor report shows that unemployment tops 20 percent among 18-to-24-year-old veterans, compared to a national rate of about 9 percent.

Veteran unemployment is projected to worsen after 10,000 servicemen and servicewomen return from Afghanistan and 46,000 come home from Iraq by year's end — many wounded or suffering from mental trauma.

Bordeleau, who served in the military police, said his diagnosis of post-traumatic stress disorder has made it impossible to pursue a career in civilian law enforcement, and that he's had a hard time finding jobs that pay more than $10 an hour. He has worked as a groundskeeper at a New York public park, while living on disability benefits.

"I can't really survive on that," he said.

Wednesday's protest comes two weeks after another veteran faced off with police in New York.

Shamar Thomas, a decorated former Marine sergeant from Roosevelt, N.Y., went nose-to-nose with officers policing activists in Times Square.

"This is not a war zone! These are not armed people!" he told police in a passionate, videotaped plea that has gone viral on YouTube.

Earlier Wednesday, Mayor Michael Bloomberg said he believes the protest, now in its seventh week, is "really hurting small businesses and families."

He said the city has worked hard to preserve the protesters' First Amendment rights, but is very concerned about the rights of others in the area. Bloomberg said the city will take action if and when it's appropriate.

To ease access to small businesses on Wall Street, hundreds of police barricades were removed Wednesday, said Marc LaVorgna, a mayoral spokesman.


http://www.navytimes.com/news/2011/11/ap-veterans-lend-influence-to-occupy-movement-110311/

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RE: Joe WalshVeterans In Occupy Movement 'Don't Underst... - 11/21/2011 8:37:25 AM   
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Damn, and I thought there was going to be a link to a Youtuber of the James Gang. That would make it a worthwhile thread.

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RE: Joe WalshVeterans In Occupy Movement 'Don't Underst... - 11/21/2011 8:40:42 AM   
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and he has us on hide, so why would he consider anything posted as worthwhile, methinks he tells whopping porkers

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RE: Joe WalshVeterans In Occupy Movement 'Don't Underst... - 11/21/2011 8:44:12 AM   
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qF2OP_gFsz4

There ya go wilbur. Hell. this Joe Walsh makes more sense than the Rep Joe anyway. Probably saner too.

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RE: Joe WalshVeterans In Occupy Movement 'Don't Underst... - 11/21/2011 8:47:17 AM   
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qF2OP_gFsz4

There ya go wilbur. Hell. this Joe Walsh makes more sense than the Rep Joe anyway. Probably saner too.


Actually thats Barnstorm, not the James Gang, but thank you anyway! I don't know that Crazy Joe is saner than anyone other than O59 though.

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RE: Joe WalshVeterans In Occupy Movement 'Don't Underst... - 11/21/2011 8:48:44 AM   
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I was just playin some Joe. He's good no matter who he's playing with. Was actually looking for "ordinary average guy" but saw that first.

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RE: Joe WalshVeterans In Occupy Movement 'Don't Underst... - 11/21/2011 8:49:01 AM   
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he did have us on hide.... long enough to take a screen shot.

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RE: Joe WalshVeterans In Occupy Movement 'Don't Underst... - 11/21/2011 9:02:41 AM   
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If I may, I have a rebuttal,

"...Occupy protesters are "generally spoiled, pampered, unfocused, clueless young people and a smattering of other people who don’t understand this country and are advocating anti-American solutions."
  "... Anti-American..."

No, this hardly the case.

"Generally spoiled, pampered, unfocused, clueless young people" ...Again, from my prospective, this is a "picture at a glance."

"advocate socialist solutions to certain problems in this country ... they don't understand this country."

Like dinosaurs, "the Corporation" as an entity has had its day. Its time to move away from such a system. It time for a world wide common wealth with every one working equally to make our our society better.

Sounds like Utopia? Sure it does. What is wrong with aspiring to a new societal goal. Its time to add common wealth of natural resources to the list of Rights, along side of Freedom of Speech, Right to Bear Arm, Freedom of Religion, etc.

Capitalism sounds like a good Idea to some, mostly to those who are benefiting.

Note worthy, Jobs and business can work in a Utopian society. Just not Capitalism and Corporations.

What the hell is wrong with a country that cannot accept an apposing view. Why are opposing view always demonized with ridiculous propaganda?

Noteworthy, if 99% of the population (the reality maybe closer to 70%) wants this , it is inevitable it will happen. Regardless to what the Old School opposition feels.

Fighting it, is only going to create entrenched stances and possibly a civil war. (Yes I do feel it is that bad),

So the answer is to talk now and work together to find compromises, before the civil war.

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RE: Joe WalshVeterans In Occupy Movement 'Don't Underst... - 11/21/2011 9:03:19 AM   
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I was just playin some Joe. He's good no matter who he's playing with. Was actually looking for "ordinary average guy" but saw that first.


Yup, NJ does have some good things coming out of it. Of course he was Essex County, not Hudson County. ;)

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RE: Joe WalshVeterans In Occupy Movement 'Don't Underst... - 11/21/2011 9:23:26 AM   
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""I don't know how many veterans are part of the Occupy protest," he said. "I can't imagine it's many. But anyone who would advocate socialist solutions to certain problems in this country ... they don't understand this country."

Says a corporate-socialist-republican.......

Who, according to his own website (Congressman Joe Walsh - Proudly Representing The 8th District Of Illinois), never served on day as a member of the U.S. Army, U.S. Navy, U.S. Air Force, U.S. Marine Corps, U.S. Coast Guard, the Reserves or the National Guard - so he clearly understands this country better than any veteran or active service military member.


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RE: Joe WalshVeterans In Occupy Movement 'Don't Underst... - 11/21/2011 9:57:49 AM   
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""I don't know how many veterans are part of the Occupy protest," he said. "I can't imagine it's many. But anyone who would advocate socialist solutions to certain problems in this country ... they don't understand this country."

Says a corporate-socialist-republican.......

Who, according to his own website (Congressman Joe Walsh - Proudly Representing The 8th District Of Illinois), never served on day as a member of the U.S. Army, U.S. Navy, U.S. Air Force, U.S. Marine Corps, U.S. Coast Guard, the Reserves or the National Guard - so he clearly understands this country better than any veteran or active service military member.



Yup, just like you need to know how to build a solenoid to drive a car.

Moron.

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RE: Joe WalshVeterans In Occupy Movement 'Don't Underst... - 11/21/2011 10:03:38 AM   
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it was much funnier the way you had it before willbur



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RE: Joe WalshVeterans In Occupy Movement 'Don't Underst... - 11/21/2011 11:58:20 AM   
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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

quote:

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quote:

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""I don't know how many veterans are part of the Occupy protest," he said. "I can't imagine it's many. But anyone who would advocate socialist solutions to certain problems in this country ... they don't understand this country."

Says a corporate-socialist-republican.......

Who, according to his own website (Congressman Joe Walsh - Proudly Representing The 8th District Of Illinois), never served on day as a member of the U.S. Army, U.S. Navy, U.S. Air Force, U.S. Marine Corps, U.S. Coast Guard, the Reserves or the National Guard - so he clearly understands this country better than any veteran or active service military member.



Yup, just like you need to know how to build a solenoid to drive a car.

Moron.

Dearest moronic jackass,

You had damn well better have some service under your stinking lying belt before you start criticizing vets for exercising the rights they put their lives on the line for.

Get bent.

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RE: Joe WalshVeterans In Occupy Movement 'Don't Underst... - 11/21/2011 12:33:27 PM   
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RE: Joe WalshVeterans In Occupy Movement 'Don't Underst... - 11/21/2011 12:53:29 PM   
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oh wilbur, that was another mistake huh
I really shouldnt be surprised he blocks me when he makes a dumbass repsonse like that
Silly wilbur, you really shouldnt let your sock puppets answer for you

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RE: Joe WalshVeterans In Occupy Movement 'Don't Underst... - 11/21/2011 1:07:18 PM   
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Things have gone waaaaay downhill since Joe Walsh left the Eagles, obviously.

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RE: Joe WalshVeterans In Occupy Movement 'Don't Underst... - 11/21/2011 1:07:20 PM   
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Actually thats Barnstorm, not the James Gang, but thank you anyway! I don't know that Crazy Joe is saner than anyone other than O59 though.



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RE: Joe WalshVeterans In Occupy Movement 'Don't Underst... - 11/21/2011 1:17:50 PM   
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Things have gone waaaaay downhill since Joe Walsh left the Eagles, obviously.

Just enough to have fuck all to do with the thread while pretending hes funny.
Cant respond to the thread, so its all he has.
Same as the shadow

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