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Internet Marketplace Fairness Act - 11/20/2011 1:55:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		Last week, a bill was introduced in Congress that would allow states to charge sales tax for Internet purchases shipped to their State by retailers who do not have a physical presence in the state. No more tax free Amazon purchases, although Amazon supports the bill. It will be up to the individual state, but what state is going to pass up the chance for more income?

Personally, I think it is only fair to brick and mortar retailers. I am not crazy about the idea of new taxes, but this one seems like a no brainer.

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RE: Internet Marketplace Fairness Act - 11/20/2011 2:06:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		i would say the states that dont have any sales tax wont.. like oregon, not sure about any other states, its not something i follow..

so, assuming it passes.. i wonder how hard its gonna be for them to police (in particular the small sellers)..

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RE: Internet Marketplace Fairness Act - 11/20/2011 3:04:20 PM   
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RE: Internet Marketplace Fairness Act - 11/20/2011 4:05:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		More greed by the government, if people didn't mind waiting for up to six weeks for their purchases, they would visit the local overpriced brick and mortar.

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RE: Internet Marketplace Fairness Act - 11/20/2011 4:18:06 PM   
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More greed by the government, if people didn't mind waiting for up to six weeks for their purchases, they would visit the local overpriced brick and mortar.

This is about states rights and there is nothing new about sales taxes. Not only is it rarely 6 weeks for delivery many locals often have a very sparse inventory.

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RE: Internet Marketplace Fairness Act - 11/20/2011 5:38:16 PM   
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This is about states rights and there is nothing new about sales taxes. Not only is it rarely 6 weeks for delivery many locals often have a very sparse inventory.


No it's not, it's about greedy local politicians trying to squeeze the stone for more blood.


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RE: Internet Marketplace Fairness Act - 11/20/2011 5:45:10 PM   
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More greed by the government, if people didn't mind waiting for up to six weeks for their purchases, they would visit the local overpriced brick and mortar.

Then why are Walmart and other big-box stores lobbying for this tax, spending millions of dollars lobbying and campaigning for it?


Are they lovers of big government?

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RE: Internet Marketplace Fairness Act - 11/20/2011 8:40:59 PM   
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The OP is misworded. It will REQUIRE, not allow, them to collect state sales tax. They are already allowed to and most do. Amazon will begin collecting sales tax on sales to California in 11 months under a deal the struck with the state. They had dropped all of their affiliates so their was no indirect B&M presence, but that wasnt stopping CA from trying to sue them.

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RE: Internet Marketplace Fairness Act - 11/20/2011 9:00:25 PM   
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The OP is misworded. It will REQUIRE, not allow, them to collect state sales tax. They are already allowed to and most do. Amazon will begin collecting sales tax on sales to California in 11 months under a deal the struck with the state. They had dropped all of their affiliates so their was no indirect B&M presence, but that wasnt stopping CA from trying to sue them.


Bill # and Sponsors please.



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RE: Internet Marketplace Fairness Act - 11/20/2011 9:03:41 PM   
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Cosponsors:





Michael Capuano [D-MA8]

Rick Crawford [R-AR1]

Mario Diaz-Balart [R-FL21]

John Duncan [R-TN2]

Renee Ellmers [R-NC2]

Raymond Green [D-TX29]


Carolyn Maloney [D-NY14]

Betty McCollum [D-MN4]

Bradley Miller [D-NC13]

Ted Poe [R-TX2]

Dennis Ross [R-FL12]

Heath Shuler [D-NC11]


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RE: Internet Marketplace Fairness Act - 11/20/2011 9:06:43 PM   
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More greed by the government, if people didn't mind waiting for up to six weeks for their purchases, they would visit the local overpriced brick and mortar.

This is about states rights and there is nothing new about sales taxes. Not only is it rarely 6 weeks for delivery many locals often have a very sparse inventory.


states "rights" huh

oh thats right God created the state over man.  (who only gets second class privileges)

thanks for clarifying that


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RE: Internet Marketplace Fairness Act - 11/20/2011 9:32:35 PM   
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More greed by the government, if people didn't mind waiting for up to six weeks for their purchases, they would visit the local overpriced brick and mortar.


I think you might have misworded this, doesnt make much sense as is. It is bad news for those of us in high sales tax states. I buy almost everything except food at Amazon, and it usually arrives in 2 days with free shipping.

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RE: Internet Marketplace Fairness Act - 11/20/2011 9:39:06 PM   
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I buy almost everything except food at Amazon, and it usually arrives in 2 days with free shipping.


Amazon doesn't sell twinkies and spaghetti-Os?
I'm shocked



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RE: Internet Marketplace Fairness Act - 11/20/2011 9:40:18 PM   
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I buy almost everything except food at Amazon, and it usually arrives in 2 days with free shipping.


Amazon doesn't sell twinkies and spaghetti-Os?
I'm shocked




They do, I just get em cheaper at Costco.

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RE: Internet Marketplace Fairness Act - 11/20/2011 9:42:56 PM   
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HR 3179
Cosponsors:
Michael Capuano [D-MA8]


Oh good Mikey Capuano is involved be sure to count your fingers after the vote... He's half the reason Scott Brown squeaked past.



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RE: Internet Marketplace Fairness Act - 11/20/2011 9:47:29 PM   
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They do, I just get em cheaper at Costco.


My neighbor who is Mr Creasote-esque was out at the mailboxes the other day ... a moment I always try to avoid and he asked me if I know where you can buy a sandwich like the MacRib online... I had my usual shudder and make the Lurch sound reaction and I sent HIM to amazon.
Hopefully one of the several hundred he'll buy if he finds them, will have his name on it.


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RE: Internet Marketplace Fairness Act - 11/20/2011 10:12:05 PM   
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More greed by the government, if people didn't mind waiting for up to six weeks for their purchases, they would visit the local overpriced brick and mortar.


I think you might have misworded this, doesnt make much sense as is. It is bad news for those of us in high sales tax states. I buy almost everything except food at Amazon, and it usually arrives in 2 days with free shipping.


No, it's worded correctly, hence the UP TO, a lot of sellers direct ship from China these days, and while MOST things arrive relatively fast, not everything does.


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RE: Internet Marketplace Fairness Act - 11/20/2011 10:33:11 PM   
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I see nothing "fair" about it... if taxes are to be charged, they should go to the State where the item is SOLD/ORIGINATES, not purchased.



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RE: Internet Marketplace Fairness Act - 11/21/2011 2:26:53 AM   
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No it's not, it's about greedy local politicians trying to squeeze the stone for more blood.


I agree, alert the media.

Oh, by the wat about that ten buck fine that has $126 in court costs tacked on. .....

I ain't paying any of that shit except for one thing, toner cartridges for my printer. I don't think I'll buy anything new ever again in my life except food, gas and shit like that.

It's y'all's pound of flesh not mine.

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RE: Internet Marketplace Fairness Act - 11/21/2011 5:14:01 AM   
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More greed by the government, if people didn't mind waiting for up to six weeks for their purchases, they would visit the local overpriced brick and mortar.

Then why are Walmart and other big-box stores lobbying for this tax, spending millions of dollars lobbying and campaigning for it?


Are they lovers of big government?


You don't understand why stores like Walmart would be trying to stop people from buying online? Of course they are for the tax. It is aimed at their competition.

To the OP: How are they planning on tracking this? Will it be up to the online suppliers to produce a list of their customers and what they bought or are we going to rely on the consumers to be honest when they do their taxes?


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