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It's GREAAT to be a Public Servant... - 11/1/2011 10:17:11 AM   
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Here is the latest on all our wonderful elected officals and their net worth...So why we are losing jobs overseas, unemployment remains high, it seems corporate profits are through the roof and members of Congress are also getting richer..

The net worth of members of Congress rose nearly 25 percent to $2 billion in 2010, according to analysis done by Roll Call. The totals “vastly underestimate” the actual wealth of members by leaving out the value of some assets and only focusing on their minimum reported net worth. Rep. Michael McCaul (R-TX), with a minimum net worth of $294 million, is the richest member of Congress.



The 50 richest Members of Congress accounted for 78 percent of the net worth in the institution in 2008 ($1.29 billion of the $1.65 billion total); by 2010 the share of the 50 richest had risen to 80 percent ($1.63 billion of the $2.04 billion total). The pie of Congressional wealth got bigger, and the richest Members are getting a bigger slice.



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RE: It's GREAAT to be a Public Servant... - 11/1/2011 11:14:57 AM   
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Why else would they spend 50 Million dollars to lobby for a job that pays $200.000K a year?


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RE: It's GREAAT to be a Public Servant... - 11/1/2011 11:19:23 AM   
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Why else would they spend 50 Million dollars to lobby for a job that pays $200.000K a year?


Can you say "license to steal"?

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RE: It's GREAAT to be a Public Servant... - 11/1/2011 12:25:33 PM   
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Why else would they spend 50 Million dollars to lobby for a job that pays $200.000K a year?


Can you say "license to steal"?


And we keep electing them, aren't we brilliant?


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RE: It's GREAAT to be a Public Servant... - 11/1/2011 12:35:39 PM   
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The problem is that the alternatives are just as crooked whether they're D, R or I.


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RE: It's GREAAT to be a Public Servant... - 11/1/2011 12:48:10 PM   
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The problem is that the alternatives are just as crooked whether they're D, R or I.



Amen to that Brother.


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RE: It's GREAAT to be a Public Servant... - 11/1/2011 6:32:53 PM   
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The government trickles down more money to federal workers than the private sector. [ http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=26945 ]. Also, job security and benefits are way higher. The leading cause of leaving a federal job is by dying. So, let us fight to raise taxes! Maybe, some day everybody will work for the government. The bad thing, of course, is the non-productive nature of the government and the government tendency to become parasitic.

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RE: It's GREAAT to be a Public Servant... - 11/1/2011 7:00:45 PM   
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You also have to remember when a bill is passed they put in the clause "Members of Congress are exampt" they don't pay the taxes they make you pay.

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RE: It's GREAAT to be a Public Servant... - 11/1/2011 9:26:44 PM   
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The problem is that the alternatives are just as crooked whether they're D, R or I.



With a few exceptions, you must admit.  They aren't all crooks, just the vast majority of them.

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RE: It's GREAAT to be a Public Servant... - 11/1/2011 9:34:08 PM   
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The problem is that the alternatives are just as crooked whether they're D, R or I.



With a few exceptions, you must admit.  They aren't all crooks, just the vast majority of them.


Kinda like the saying about lawyers. 99% give the rest a bad name. Come to think of it, most of congress is.....lawyers.

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RE: It's GREAAT to be a Public Servant... - 11/1/2011 9:45:39 PM   
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With a few exceptions, you must admit.
name them.

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RE: It's GREAAT to be a Public Servant... - 11/2/2011 5:16:00 AM   
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It's GREAAT to be a Public Servant...

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Thanks, taxpayers! Washington, D.C. residents rank as highest paid in the nation


While the American economy staggers out of recession, a new report shows that there’s at least one boomtown where people are raking in the dough and living large: Washington, D.C.

The Washington metropolitan area is home to the highest paid residents in the nation, according to a new report from the Ontario-based Martin Prosperity Institute. The first-time study examined 342 metro regions in the United States and found that the D.C. area’s median household income is now higher than $85,000 per year. That’s more than double the median household income of the lowest-income region. Some say government employees sacrifice big money to enter public service, but data from numerous studies show that federal workers make on average far more than those in the private sector.

A recent USA Today analysis of data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics found that, on average, federal workers earn far more than private-sector employees. According to economist Chris Edwards of the libertarian Cato Institute, compensation for federal workers was double that of those in the private sector in 2008.


Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2010/07/16/thanks-taxpayers-washington-d-c-residents-rank-as-highest-paid-in-the-nation/#ixzz1cY6iJhUS




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Morning Bell: The Truth About Public School Teacher Pay


...In New Jersey, Wisconsin, and Ohio, teachers unions have led the effort to beat back the reforms, arguing that teachers are overworked and underpaid and taking issue with even modest reforms to pension benefits as states grapple with budget deficits. But a new paper by Jason Richwine, Ph.D. and Andrew Biggs addresses the question of teacher pay head on and asks whether teachers today receive the right level of pay. They find that when benefits such as tenure, health care, and pensions are considered, the typical public-school teacher is well-paid: “We conclude that public-school-teacher salaries are comparable to those paid to similarly skilled private-sector workers, but that more generous fringe benefits for public-school teachers, including greater job security, make total compensation 52 percent greater than fair market levels, equivalent to more than $120 billion overcharged to taxpayers each year.” Richwine and Biggs also find that when it comes to pay, some of the best teachers are being left behind:

While union contracts help secure overcompensation for the average teacher, they may still leave the most valuable teachers underpaid. School administrators need to be able to hire and fire teachers as needed, basing personnel decisions on rigorous value-added evaluations and setting pay based on prevailing market rates.


Case in point: the Farmington, Michigan, school district. Michigan Capitol Confidential reports that in that district, the average gym teacher’s salary is $75,035, whereas science teachers make $68,483 on average. Likewise, in Harrison, Michigan, “science teachers earned $49,000 on average while gym teachers averaged $62,000.” Tom Gantert writes, “This is not unusual, because school districts don’t differentiate what a teacher does when considering compensation, regardless of the district’s educational needs. Teachers are paid on a single salary schedule based on seniority and education level.” And that single salary schedule is negotiated in the union contract.

http://blog.heritage.org/2011/11/01/morning-bell-the-truth-about-public-school-teacher-pay/



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RE: It's GREAAT to be a Public Servant... - 11/2/2011 5:17:53 AM   
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With a few exceptions, you must admit.
name them.

Can we get back to ya on that in sayyyy a coupla years?

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RE: It's GREAAT to be a Public Servant... - 11/2/2011 6:38:58 AM   
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Thanks, taxpayers! Washington, D.C. residents rank as highest paid in the nation


While the American economy staggers out of recession, a new report shows that there’s at least one boomtown where people are raking in the dough and living large: Washington, D.C.

The Washington metropolitan area is home to the highest paid residents in the nation, according to a new report from the Ontario-based Martin Prosperity Institute. The first-time study examined 342 metro regions in the United States and found that the D.C. area’s median household income is now higher than $85,000 per year. That’s more than double the median household income of the lowest-income region. Some say government employees sacrifice big money to enter public service, but data from numerous studies show that federal workers make on average far more than those in the private sector.

A recent USA Today analysis of data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics found that, on average, federal workers earn far more than private-sector employees. According to economist Chris Edwards of the libertarian Cato Institute, compensation for federal workers was double that of those in the private sector in 2008.


Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2010/07/16/thanks-taxpayers-washington-d-c-residents-rank-as-highest-paid-in-the-nation/#ixzz1cY6iJhUS




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Morning Bell: The Truth About Public School Teacher Pay


...In New Jersey, Wisconsin, and Ohio, teachers unions have led the effort to beat back the reforms, arguing that teachers are overworked and underpaid and taking issue with even modest reforms to pension benefits as states grapple with budget deficits. But a new paper by Jason Richwine, Ph.D. and Andrew Biggs addresses the question of teacher pay head on and asks whether teachers today receive the right level of pay. They find that when benefits such as tenure, health care, and pensions are considered, the typical public-school teacher is well-paid: “We conclude that public-school-teacher salaries are comparable to those paid to similarly skilled private-sector workers, but that more generous fringe benefits for public-school teachers, including greater job security, make total compensation 52 percent greater than fair market levels, equivalent to more than $120 billion overcharged to taxpayers each year.” Richwine and Biggs also find that when it comes to pay, some of the best teachers are being left behind:

While union contracts help secure overcompensation for the average teacher, they may still leave the most valuable teachers underpaid. School administrators need to be able to hire and fire teachers as needed, basing personnel decisions on rigorous value-added evaluations and setting pay based on prevailing market rates.


Case in point: the Farmington, Michigan, school district. Michigan Capitol Confidential reports that in that district, the average gym teacher’s salary is $75,035, whereas science teachers make $68,483 on average. Likewise, in Harrison, Michigan, “science teachers earned $49,000 on average while gym teachers averaged $62,000.” Tom Gantert writes, “This is not unusual, because school districts don’t differentiate what a teacher does when considering compensation, regardless of the district’s educational needs. Teachers are paid on a single salary schedule based on seniority and education level.” And that single salary schedule is negotiated in the union contract.

http://blog.heritage.org/2011/11/01/morning-bell-the-truth-about-public-school-teacher-pay/



Regarding the first article, It echoes something I've said for some time. Government workers make more for the same job than private secotor workers. the figure I saw once was 140%.

Second article. that's someting that I wondered about when I taught. The only explanation I can come up with is:

1. PE teachers tend to be 'lifers' (not a lot of demand for that degree outside education) while science teachers frequently move on to more lucrative positions in private industry (as I did).

2. Teaching salary schedules tend to be an (education + experience) system with more pay for someone with an MS or PhD. Face it, an advanced degree in Physical Education is a bit easier to get than one in Physics, Chemistry or Biology.

Yeah, I know, I'm agreeing with sanity and the sky hasn't fallen in yet. Keep an umbrella handy just in case OK.

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