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outlier -> Evidence; Hunger Hormones Persist Long Term After Weight Loss (10/29/2011 11:20:59 AM)
This from The New England Journal Of Medicine "Background: After weight loss, changes in the circulating levels of several peripheral hormones involved in the homeostatic regulation of body weight occur. Whether these changes are transient or persist over time may be important for an understanding of the reasons behind the high rate of weight regain after diet-induced weight loss." "Conclusions: One year after initial weight reduction, levels of the circulating mediators of appetite that encourage weight regain after diet-induced weight loss do not revert to the levels recorded before weight loss. Long-term strategies to counteract this change may be needed to prevent obesity relapse. (Funded by the National Health and Medical Research Council and others; ClinicalTrials.gov number, NCT00870259.)" This may indicate while maintaining weight loss is a life long battle for so many. They might be literally fighting their own bodies.

LadyHibiscus -> RE: Evidence; Hunger Hormones Persist Long Term After Weight Loss (10/29/2011 5:25:44 PM)
This really is a WELL DUH for me. I am not an appetite-driven person. Days can go by without my feeling hungry EVER. I have seriously obese friends that are ALWAYS hungry, and I mean physically hungry, not that "feeling a bit peckish" that means your brain wants something, not your body. There are things that willpower alone cannot address.

Termyn8or -> RE: Evidence; Hunger Hormones Persist Long Term After Weight Loss (10/29/2011 9:37:40 PM)
They wil find a chemical reaction for everything in the human body, because that's the way it works. The brain wants tis, prevent the body from getting it and the problem solves itself, but it takes time. This is just a form of an explanaition for it. Well fuh, if your O2 and sugar levels in your blood go too low you will faint. This is not really news IMO. And they are not hunger hormones anyway, any feeling is processed by the brain. That would be saying that the brain tells the stomach to tell the brain that it is hungry. That sounds like a corporate structure, whiuch fails, this old system has served us since the dawn of mankind, and even before. Get out of all this and let's just get down to it, do you control your brain or does it control you ? Which is it ? T^T

outlier -> RE: Evidence; Hunger Hormones Persist Long Term After Weight Loss (11/1/2011 9:08:23 AM)
I have been going around with AT&T so I did not get back to answer, sorry about that. Lady H, People like your friends are the reason I wanted to share this information. None of us can feel another persons hunger. Overweight people are frequently told that they just need willpower, etc. Here is a scientific indication that the hunger pangs urging people to overeat persist as long as one year after they lose weight. I thought that was significant and I believe that it would help people who are fighting these urges to know that it is not "just them". Not anecdotal but actual scientific measurement published in a respected medical journal. So I shared the information. There are enough fat threads around here that I didn't think a little science would hurt.

outlier -> RE: Evidence; Hunger Hormones Persist Long Term After Weight Loss (11/1/2011 9:19:31 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Termyn8or And they are not hunger hormones anyway, any feeling is processed by the brain. That would be saying that the brain tells the stomach to tell the brain that it is hungry. That sounds like a corporate structure, whiuch fails, this old system has served us since the dawn of mankind, and even before. Get out of all this and let's just get down to it, do you control your brain or does it control you ? Which is it ? T^T Thank you for an excellent example of the type of attitude I just referred to. Also, I did shorten "circulating levels of several peripheral hormones involved in the homeostatic regulation of body weight" to "hunger hormones" to fit the headline space. But I don't think the article, or the worth of the findings can be criticized because I did.

Termyn8or -> RE: Evidence; Hunger Hormones Persist Long Term After Weight Loss (11/1/2011 6:33:49 PM)
You took that as criticism ? Hmmmm. I think that within norms, blood sugar level has a hell of alot to do with hunger. There are other things though. For example you may eat very quickly and feel full long before what you ate significantly affected your blood sugar. You still feel full. Even in the absence of tactile sense you can tell where your limbs are, so I figure the stomach muscles are the same. The data goes to the brain. Years ago I actually shrunk my stomach by fasting etc. I was probably as low as carbs can go. At that time I didn't get hungry for days, in alot of cases just eating becasue I knew I had to. Those muscles themselves seem to have feedback. I also got full very easily, on quite small portions. I see this trend changing in me because I am now gaining weight. When I got sick my appetite dropped to zero almost. I had to eat to rebuild. It's been difficult to maintain such a protein and mineral rich diet these days. Now I am in the position of needing to quell appetite. I only give a shit when there are actually pangs. A bit of huinger doesn't bother me, hell I stopped smoking cigarettes back in August. But the pangs can distract one - like from work, driving etc. How the mind and body work together is a very complex subject, and is actually beyond the current state of the art. This thread is about something they discovered about that. They know very little. Much of the data is anecdotal or some other wishy washy source. That does not mean ignore it, it's just that there are so many variables we might never understand this shit completely. So really, I didn't mean to criticise. It was mor elike "this is not quite the second coming here" LOL. Not this source. I did not mean that. This is more like hard data. T^T

angelikaJ -> RE: Evidence; Hunger Hormones Persist Long Term After Weight Loss (11/2/2011 1:33:53 PM)
OL, Weightloss is such a complex issue and most people with the simple solution are unable to understand that "The Big Picture" is intricate and very individual: there are no one size fits all answers that will work for everyone and even when the battle is won it isn't over. Thank you for the reminder and for posting this.

angelikaJ -> RE: Evidence; Hunger Hormones Persist Long Term After Weight Loss (11/2/2011 1:38:35 PM)
Termy, Every piece of the mind-body puzzle as it is revealed may not be the second coming but it is one step closer from where we were before. And every piece that we know can help battle the simplistic ignorance that is so prevelent around issues such as this. Validation and greater understanding of the reasons behind mind-body struggles should help foster greater compassion and understanding... and too seldom do.

DarkSteven -> RE: Evidence; Hunger Hormones Persist Long Term After Weight Loss (11/2/2011 5:28:11 PM)
Um, the article seems to focus solely on diet-induced weight loss. Has there been a similar study for exercise-induced weight loss?

outlier -> RE: Evidence; Hunger Hormones Persist Long Term After Weight Loss (11/2/2011 11:05:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DarkSteven Um, the article seems to focus solely on diet-induced weight loss. Has there been a similar study for exercise-induced weight loss? Excellent question DS. Thank you for it. Prompted by that I went back to the article and followed the links to the study report which was not thorough. It did not say anything about exercise and that certainly is a variable worth considering. I would not be surprised if some moderate appropriate exercise did help to reset the body's hormones to accommodate the new lower weight. In my opinion that would be an excellent variable for their next study.

NocturnalStalker -> RE: Evidence; Hunger Hormones Persist Long Term After Weight Loss (11/3/2011 12:06:18 AM)
Posting in a 100+ reply topic.

popeye1250 -> RE: Evidence; Hunger Hormones Persist Long Term After Weight Loss (11/3/2011 12:10:25 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: outlier This from The New England Journal Of Medicine "Background: After weight loss, changes in the circulating levels of several peripheral hormones involved in the homeostatic regulation of body weight occur. Whether these changes are transient or persist over time may be important for an understanding of the reasons behind the high rate of weight regain after diet-induced weight loss." "Conclusions: One year after initial weight reduction, levels of the circulating mediators of appetite that encourage weight regain after diet-induced weight loss do not revert to the levels recorded before weight loss. Long-term strategies to counteract this change may be needed to prevent obesity relapse. (Funded by the National Health and Medical Research Council and others; ClinicalTrials.gov number, NCT00870259.)" This may indicate while maintaining weight loss is a life long battle for so many. They might be literally fighting their own bodies. That's one of the many good side affects of excercise, it tames the "hunger hormones" greatly. Do a half hour on the treadmill and see if you want a package of twinkies afterwards!

outlier -> RE: Evidence; Hunger Hormones Persist Long Term After Weight Loss (11/3/2011 11:53:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 That's one of the many good side affects of excercise, it tames the "hunger hormones" greatly. Do a half hour on the treadmill and see if you want a package of twinkies afterwards! Popeye1250, That may well be your experience. Personally, I take a walk daily in addition to my other activities. But all of that is still in the realm of the anecdotal. Science demands more than that and many medical professionals are not going to be impressed by anything less than science. Thus the importance of this being published in a respected medical journal.

xssve -> RE: Evidence; Hunger Hormones Persist Long Term After Weight Loss (11/4/2011 8:43:45 AM)
Anal stimulation works too - the Vagus nerve runs throughout the entire digestive system, it's what tells you when you're "full". Seriously, VNS is an AMA approved therapy for weight loss and depression.

xssve -> RE: Evidence; Hunger Hormones Persist Long Term After Weight Loss (11/4/2011 9:02:04 AM)
Even paraplegics can have orgasms - it can be stimulated vaginally, I believe the clitoral ganglia is an extension, but the more direct route is through the anus, the "deep spot", the rectouterine pouch in women, to some degree the G-Spot, the prostate in men. Brain activation during vaginocervical self-stimulation and orgasm in women with complete spinal cord injury: fMRI evidence of mediation by the Vagus nerves

mnottertail -> RE: Evidence; Hunger Hormones Persist Long Term After Weight Loss (11/4/2011 9:12:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: xssve Anal stimulation works too - the Vagus nerve runs throughout the entire digestive system, it's what tells you when you're "full". Seriously, VNS is an AMA approved therapy for weight loss and depression. Heres what I take away from that: Hey, bitch, get in there and start kissing and licking and rimming me.... mmmpf, mmmpf, mmmpf......(couple hours later she comes up for air...) more master? Ah, no thanks honey, I'm full.

xssve -> RE: Evidence; Hunger Hormones Persist Long Term After Weight Loss (11/4/2011 9:26:34 AM)
There ya go.

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