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LafayetteLady -> RE: Constitutional rights for whales (10/29/2011 8:24:16 PM)
One thing that no one has mentioned is that PETA is filing looking for this consideration in the US. Whale hunting doesn't happen in the US. Gorillas aren't killed for souvenirs in the US (ok, we don't have any living in the wild here, but still). Most of the real atrocities that are happening to these wild, endangered species is happening outside the US. So, what then, would PETA actually achieve? As you mentioned with Keiko, they would achieve getting custody of these whales only to have them die at their hand.

FirstQuaker -> RE: Constitutional rights for whales (10/29/2011 8:35:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: HannahLynn quote: Life would get really interesting (for anyone not aboard a large vessel) on the world's oceans if the blackfish started seeing people as enemies. meh, nothing an m2 couldn't deal with. That is a good plan - quote: NAVAL AVIATION NEWS December, 1956, pg. 19 Killer Whales Destroyed VP-7 Accomplishes Special TaskAdm. Jerauld Wright, Commander in Chief, Atlantic Fleet, has announced the completion of another successful mission by VP-7 against killer whales off the coast of Iceland Killer whales annually plague Icelandic fishermen by damaging and destroying thousands of dollars worth of fishing nets. Last year, VP-18 destroyed hundreds of killer whales with machine guns, rockets and depth charges. Before the Navy lent a hand last year, killer whales threatened to cut the Icelandic fish catch in half. This created a crisis because the fishing industry employs about 20% of the population and accounts for the majority of Iceland's foreign currency income.The Icelandic Office requested help, and Capt. Sherrill, Commander of the Naval Forces in Iceland, assigned VP-7 to the task of ridding the coastal areas of killer whales. Ranging from 20 to 30 feet in length, they are feared as one of the deadliest of ocean animals. http://www.seaworld.org/infobooks/KillerWhale/deathkw.html Canada and Japan also had similar "naval battles" with them. Do you think arming kayaks, surfboards and rowboats with heavy machine guns and depth charges for defensive purposes would be acceptable? Most the normal parts of the world think leaving them alone is a better scheme.

Iamsemisweet -> RE: Constitutional rights for whales (10/30/2011 1:43:24 PM)
LOL. Who'd a thunk it? Actually, my kids are always telling me I am not as liberal as I think I am. quote: ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY quote: ORIGINAL: Iamsemisweet Again, so what? I don't care about machine hybrids or uploaded intelligence. I can see that you do, and that's fine. I would rather live in a world where there are wild primates, whales, and elephants. Things like this suit won't make that possible. I guess I'm just more liberal than you. [8D] Firm

FirmhandKY -> RE: Constitutional rights for whales (10/30/2011 6:15:05 PM)
FR: Chimp terrorist: [image]http://wfnx.com/blogs/sandbox/blog%20images/Feb09/chimp_gun.JPG[/image] I want my rights, RIGHT NOW, MoFo!

FirmhandKY -> RE: Constitutional rights for whales (10/30/2011 6:17:18 PM)
Proof that Chimps are no different than your average man: [image]http://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/retrospace-.png[/image]

FirmhandKY -> RE: Constitutional rights for whales (10/30/2011 6:29:07 PM)
[image]http://www.forkparty.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/dolphin-navy.png[/image] "We have heard some disturbing rumors about attacks against our blackfish allies ..."

FirstQuaker -> RE: Constitutional rights for whales (10/30/2011 7:29:08 PM)
FR What part of leave us alone and go play somewhere else is it you don't understand? And don't make us give you the seal treatment. It is a lot easier to leave them alone and for commercial fisherman to not steal the fish they spend a day rounding up and herding into some bay for their banquets, as they can tear up an offending net like you tear toilet paper, and pound a few seams loose in their boat too or filling it with water, if they are annoyed enough at this robbery, they are nicer then humans are in similar cases and if they wanted to kill people they certainly could be doing that. The dolphins the US Navy has trained as combatants look like developmentally disabled attack mice in comparison. Why look for trouble? They are still friendly enough to us now, as long as you respect their clan "privacy" and especially don't get too close to their "children," without their approval and don't interefere with their fish harvesting once they started in an area. If they see us fishing they go elsewhere, we do the same, and everyone is happy.

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