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Epytropos -> Marquis De Sade: Satire? (10/21/2011 5:19:05 AM)

So I finally got around to reading Sex in the Bedroom and 120 Days of Sodom around a year ago, and ever since then something has been bothering me about it. It seems to lack sincerity, the ring of truth. In short, as our friends across the pond would say, it seems to be taking the piss.

I'm sure many if not most of you have read one or both, so I was hoping you could give input on that theory. Does it seem to you that De Sade seems to be writing a satire of Voltaire, or perhaps of the need for moral virtue itself? Given his history, it's hard to imagine he's trying to come down on the side of traditionalism, but I could definitely see an argument for his mocking Voltaire's apparent need to develop an ethical framework for hedonism and libertinism as opposed to just getting his dick wet from hell to breakfast.

Thoughts?




xssve -> RE: Marquis De Sade: Satire? (10/21/2011 10:21:46 AM)

I think there is an element of satire in there, I don't think De Sade, as an aristocrat, held many of his his peers in high regard, and at the same time, some of it is, I think, straight journalism.




mnottertail -> RE: Marquis De Sade: Satire? (10/21/2011 10:24:54 AM)

As in any tale, it gets better in the telling of it. And he didn't mind thumbing the nose, that much is true.

Voltaire




MissImmortalPain -> RE: Marquis De Sade: Satire? (10/21/2011 3:46:43 PM)

I would have to call it a satire on moral virture. Rather like Anton LaVey writing the satanic bible.




bighappygoth39 -> RE: Marquis De Sade: Satire? (10/22/2011 7:11:29 AM)

Philosophy In The Bedroom.
DeSade's work is definitely satire: it's in the noble enlightenment tradition of tiresome, smug and unamusing satires.




Epytropos -> RE: Marquis De Sade: Satire? (10/22/2011 8:18:00 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: bighappygoth39

Philosophy In The Bedroom.
DeSade's work is definitely satire: it's in the noble enlightenment tradition of tiresome, smug and unamusing satires.



Arg didn't notice that. Gives insight into where my head was when I was posting this, now doesn't it?




bighappygoth39 -> RE: Marquis De Sade: Satire? (10/22/2011 9:38:53 AM)

It's easily done: I use my bedroom for sex not philosophy as well.
[;)]




mnottertail -> RE: Marquis De Sade: Satire? (10/22/2011 9:51:31 AM)

And thats why people will say never heard of the bloke, after you are cakked.

Its all about the philosophy of the penis, if you want your name mentioned in the down the road.




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