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RE: Ohaha now a common thug! Will we get justice? - 10/11/2011 10:50:33 AM

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NO RealO, we WISH we lived in a real dictatorship. In a real dictatorship all you have to please is one person and maybe a few of his cronies, in this country we have to please 1% of the population, which is about three million people.

Instead of one, or a thousand people living like Kings we got three fucking million.

And we would be better off being slaves, because what we are now is serfs. Slaves are much better off. A supposedly free society and this sort of a capitalist economy results in serfdom. We see that today. They don't want to pay you anything but you have to pay for everything. If that isn't bad enough EVERY FUCKING DAY all levels of government think up new fees and licensing requirements, as we get paid less and less.

As a slave you don't give a shit what anyhting costs, it's all taken care of. The plantation owner will call the vet for you if you are sick. And I have said it more than once, I would rather be treated by a veterinarian than an MD because I believe they are more competent and more properly motivated.

You know in slave days, they were not all in chains. Try to break out of this society today and see what happens.

But you pick on Obama unfairly. His executive orders started in five figures, that is there were already over ten thousand of them. So he did not start this shit. I'm not saying he's any better, it's just that he's not any worse. I supported Obama because supporting McCain would've taken the Arab world to the brink of war with the axis powers of the US, UK and Israel. The Arab people would've been doing what was done in Egypt all over the place. And this time it would be PERSONAL. You think I'm kidding ? Maybe not, but I bet alot of the sheeple do , and Fox news will tell them what's "right".

Arabs are fine upstanding motherfuckers and will stand up when they can't stand any more shit, and that day is growing near. All of the US, UK, Israeli installed governments are going to be short lived. the best of them are bribing their people, but eventually that is not going to work, and just like us, they will have some revolutions. Then the balance of power will change and the only people in half decent shape will be those who stayed carefully neutral. And I mean REALLY neutral, not the faux neutral perpetrated by the axis powers - the globalists - the new world order. They are giving the orders right now, but it is not going to last forever. The Arabs will turn out to be the greatest ally to the freedom loving, actually yearning peoples of the world. Mark my words.

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I am going to assume you mean the Patriot Act. In fact it was to expire on on December 31 2005. Congress has approved extensions of the Act, on May 26, 2011, President Barack Obama signed a four-year extension of three key provisions in the USA PATRIOT Act: [2]roving wiretaps, searches of business records (the "library records provision"), and conducting surveillance of "lone wolves" — individuals suspected of terrorist-related activities not linked to terrorist groups. There is on provion to the excution of anyone.

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RE: Ohaha now a common thug! Will we get justice? - 10/11/2011 10:53:27 AM

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And this surprises you?
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RE: Ohaha now a common thug! Will we get justice? - 10/11/2011 1:07:28 PM

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I think you noted the real problem in describing who was whining.

This isn't a liberal issue, nor is it a conservative issue. It is an American issue, one that every soul who values liberty and expects the government to abide by protections in the Constitution.

All it generally ends up being however, is exactly what you noted, where the side either defending it or staying silent is the one who has its party in power, while those attacking it are generally those whose party is not in power.

Governments rarely give up power or authority. I don't know how many times I've heard the phrase, "slippery slope". There's no slope to it. It is a graduated and intentional abrogation of rights, one that furthers itself based upon the last step taken along that path. When the Patriot Act came along, what I told people then is it's not the party in power you have to worry about. It is the next dickhead, or the one following, because this step will already be laid in concrete. The flap will be over, and the in-fighting shifted off to something else.

The same thing applies here. If you do not have an issue, a serious one with anyone in the US having the power of judge, jury and executioner on US citizens, then you're either one those people Franklin talked about or you're playing party politics.

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RE: Ohaha now a common thug! Will we get justice? - 10/11/2011 4:34:44 PM

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ORIGINAL: DeviantlyD

Why did you put this in "Off Topic Discussion"?

Because people in P & R were not paying him any attention. Obviously he missed the thread ongoing about the same subject.

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RE: Ohaha now a common thug! Will we get justice? - 10/11/2011 10:52:48 PM

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"Perhaps you do but please do not presume to speak for me."

Splain to me why dictatorship is bad. If a dictator made the laws exactly to your liking it would be the best you ever had.

"Under the czar, one not only had to please the czar but also about 10,000,000 aristocrats and kulaks. "

You mean like city inspectors and cops who stop you to use an optical taxpayer funded device to find if your car windows are tinted dark enough to warrant a ticket and a fine ? Think now, how is a dictatorship funded ?

"Since five percent of our population owns about 90% of our wealth it would appear that the number is closer to 15 million. "

It says 99 %, that leaves one not five. I didn't do it.

"How, exactly does a serf differ from a slave and why would you prefer one over the other? "

The serf has the illusion of some form of freedom, even though it is so limited that there isn't that much difference to being in jail for some people. The slave has no illusions and a slavemaster knows not to damage his property. You abuse your tools ? I want my tools in tip top shape if possible, and that means happy.

"So the hard work and the lash are like perks? "

Conform and produce there is no lash. If you got whipped every day no matter if you pleased your masters or not, what reason would you have to please them ? It's really not that much different than what the government does to stay in power. They WILL chain you up, put you in a cage and all that shit, and in many cases just for not paying them the money they demand. Tell me more about your "vision" of any "real" difference. And work is a perk these days in case you hadn't noticed.

"Your lack of historical reality hampers your ability to make logical interpretations about history. "

I'm having trouble connecting that to my preceding paragraph. I said the plantation owner will call the vet for you if you are sick. Look, I don't know how you think life works but SLAVES COST MONEY. Like a prize cow, pumpkin or show horse, or even a fucking Mazerati, you take care of it. Do I have to tell everybody everything ? Of course they did not want to injure the slaves. And how my personal preference for the the expertise of an animal doctor has any bearing on your perception of my grasp of history is really out there somewhere. I don't care what you think of that opinion either, I don't know any vetrinarians but if I ever do they will become my doctor, regardless of the law. You disagree, don't do it then.

"I would not take any bets on that. "

Don't. I didn't come here to give gambling advice. When the time comes it won't be a game. I'll get a vested interest in the outcome. Worse that can happen is I die. Everybody dies. I'm not going to call a bookie, I am going to call the street people and wheel and deal, and make the world a MUCH more dangerous place.

You don't have to mark that last part down.

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RE: Ohaha now a common thug! Will we get justice? - 10/12/2011 4:04:43 AM

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"How, exactly does a serf differ from a slave and why would you prefer one over the other? "

The serf has the illusion of some form of freedom, even though it is so limited that there isn't that much difference to being in jail for some people. The slave has no illusions and a slavemaster knows not to damage his property. You abuse your tools ? I want my tools in tip top shape if possible, and that means happy.

You are mistaken...a serf has no illusion of freedom. A serf and all of their offspring are serfs forever. One could become a serf at the whim of the czar.
You seem to know little about how slavery works.

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RE: Ohaha now a common thug! Will we get justice? - 10/12/2011 4:27:38 AM

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