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RE: Laughing as Rome Burns to the Ground!! - 9/16/2011 1:03:48 PM   
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I am open to suggestions. I know my limitations and travel for work is out pretty much. It's not the matter of a driver's license or a car or truck, the fact is I have no sense of direction. I am serious. If I was Moses the Jews wouldn't have ever even made their way out of fucking Egypt. Seriously. I got my new job about 6½ years ago and had to test drive there with someone to be able to find the place, which is on a major thoroughfare less than a mile from the highway ramp. I live within walking distance to the other highway ramp



I say this entirely seriously Dude, given what you've described in terms of skills with pipe and conduit, and the fact that (I think anyway) you live in ohio... I would seriously consider heading to North Dakota and check out the oil rig scene. I can see how you could talk your way into a job somewhere around the rigs. And the pay would be good enough that you could stay there and maintain whatever it is you have back home, till it burns out for you value wise and you decide to leave it all behind for the Dakotas. Or, you may just want to scrimp once you're out there and bank up a year or two of that 30k subsistence cash and then take the time to really decide what you want to do.
   I talked to a guy who never did anything but run those little 1 inch network conduits and he talked his way onto the rig itself, making six figures after a year.
   If I could get the courts to let me do a move-away with the kids, I would head there just for the adventure of it.



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RE: Laughing as Rome Burns to the Ground!! - 9/16/2011 3:04:15 PM   
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I thought Nero played the fiddle, but what do I know, it's probably another myth.


He was out of town at a singing competition. Just so you know.



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RE: Laughing as Rome Burns to the Ground!! - 9/16/2011 3:11:54 PM   
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FR

I thought Nero played the fiddle, but what do I know, it's probably another myth.


He was out of town at a singing competition. Just so you know.




Crap, I didn't think you were THAT old, Aylee. You hide your age well.


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RE: Laughing as Rome Burns to the Ground!! - 9/16/2011 3:37:38 PM   
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FR

I thought Nero played the fiddle, but what do I know, it's probably another myth.


He was out of town at a singing competition. Just so you know.




Crap, I didn't think you were THAT old, Aylee. You hide your age well.



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RE: Laughing as Rome Burns to the Ground!! - 9/16/2011 5:23:32 PM   
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which is what???

What has been accomplished? Nothing from what I can see.

He's still unemployed, he's still angry, as far as I can tell without looking at his profile, he's still single......

not sure what you're getting at.



so he has to turn it up then.     ?

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RE: Laughing as Rome Burns to the Ground!! - 9/16/2011 5:38:58 PM   
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which is what???

What has been accomplished? Nothing from what I can see.

He's still unemployed, he's still angry, as far as I can tell without looking at his profile, he's still single......

not sure what you're getting at.



so he has to turn it up then.     ?



More like turn it down. Stop being so angry, bitter and jaded. They're not very positive character traits. Ask yourself, would you wanna be around someone that's always like that? I know I don't.



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RE: Laughing as Rome Burns to the Ground!! - 9/16/2011 5:59:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

which is what???

What has been accomplished? Nothing from what I can see.

He's still unemployed, he's still angry, as far as I can tell without looking at his profile, he's still single......

not sure what you're getting at.



so he has to turn it up then.     ?



More like turn it down. Stop being so angry, bitter and jaded. They're not very positive character traits. Ask yourself, would you wanna be around someone that's always like that? I know I don't.





LW:   the kid was told this by several people=-  in February and prior to then.  He does not want to see it that way.    Maybe when he gets older- - he will- but for now- he chooses to be in a dark place....  which comes back on him way more then it hurts the "enemy".

Time heals all wounds... except in his case.....

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RE: Laughing as Rome Burns to the Ground!! - 9/17/2011 10:36:00 AM   
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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

which is what???

What has been accomplished? Nothing from what I can see.

He's still unemployed, he's still angry, as far as I can tell without looking at his profile, he's still single......

not sure what you're getting at.



so he has to turn it up then.     ?



More like turn it down. Stop being so angry, bitter and jaded. They're not very positive character traits. Ask yourself, would you wanna be around someone that's always like that? I know I don't.





LW:   the kid was told this by several people=-  in February and prior to then.  He does not want to see it that way.    Maybe when he gets older- - he will- but for now- he chooses to be in a dark place....  which comes back on him way more then it hurts the "enemy".

Time heals all wounds... except in his case.....



Kid? FFS, Hunky, he is older than I am. His boo-hooing about this and desire for 'vengance' serves no one, least of all himself. It'd be amusing to nail his sorry, whinging ass to the wall with a hammer stolen from the bag of 'em that he's dumber than.

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RE: Laughing as Rome Burns to the Ground!! - 9/17/2011 6:47:15 PM   
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Perhaps an analysis is in order.

"As Many may know I was terminated from my last position in February because I couldn't make their mandatory 5% sales goal. "

OK, that is negative but it seems to simply be fact. In that particular sentence, I see nothing else. Fired, didn't make the cut. No embellishment no nothing.

"Many of my previous posts reflected that I figured that this mandatory sales crap and all of their other changes were just a prelude to the company closing its operations in my city. "

Supposition at that point.

"GUESS WHAT "

"Its happened, they are going to shut down their Columbia SC operations in six months! "

Well now. Here's a question, why ? Wasn't him, he ain't there.

"I saw the writing on the wall, I knew they were pissing off the customers, that their policies were pissing off the employees and ultimately they would suffer backlash. "

There he does err. Pissing off employees doesn't matter in this economy.

"They spent tens of millions to refurbish their building, but they drove customers and employees off by the truckload. Now they have to reap the whirlwind. "

This needs claridication. It really depemds on the kind of business. If there is significant support after the sale, and they get rid of the reps. the customer had had a repoire with, then they are at fault.

There is a rule in American business "Management can do no wrong". You see, no matter what, management can do no wrong, to the point where the management that ran that place into the fucking ground is likely to get a chance to do it again at another company.

"I may still be unemployed but I am laughing as Rome burns to the ground! "

That last part is the problem. Must remember business is business.

The fact is that either they had a product that was unsalable or couldn't attract people able to sell it. How could they spend a bunch of money renovating the building under those circumstances ? Management, yes, those who can do no wrong are frequently completely clueless. Believe me I know and that is why I avoid working for large companies like the plague. Very few are run efficiently. Very few are run competently. We all know it.

If you don't understand get the old videos of Belverly Hillbillies and watch the actions of the bank President, Milburn Drysdale. That should just about tell you. You see the problem is that income is not necessarily tied to performance any more. If someone said that profit is the difference between revenue and expense many managers would look at them like they had just quoted some sort of qwark theory or some shit. The spotlighted deer look. 

They get jobs and keep them by being in a clique, being liked and so forth. They have no more fucking smarts than the floor sweepers, really.

There are exceptions but unfortunately in many industries here, they are indeed exceptions, not the rule.

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RE: Laughing as Rome Burns to the Ground!! - 9/17/2011 7:10:03 PM   
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"I say this entirely seriously Dude, given what you've described in terms of skills with pipe and conduit, and the fact that (I think anyway) you live in ohio... I would seriously consider heading to North Dakota and check out the oil rig scene."

Couple problems with that. I understand that oil is good business even with our miniscule market share, but am I cut out for it ? First of all I was ill a couple years ago and I am still not fully recovered. I used to be able to sit cross legged on the floor and stand straight up without any support or anything with ease, and now I find it hard to step up into the bed of a full size pickup truck without holding on. Add to that that I have always had acrophobia. Not acute but enough to keep me out of most construction work. And what best we can figure a couple years ago was mold exposure, I might never fully recover.

But I don't want a desk job either. All I can do right now is keep my mind as well as my options open. I am a jack of many trades but the master of very few. Fewer actually than I thought.

Somewhere along the line I think I want to be in business for myself. I have just been in too many places where the idiots ruled the roost, and as John gloats about, they pay for it eventually.

Of course there are 300 million people looking for the niche I seek. But I am not going to give up. I have to figure out what changed. It is me that changed. Thirty years ago I had an idea almost once a week, maybe more some weeks. I did not have the tools or knowledge with which to implement them. Now I couldn't think of a tool I need to buy with the possible exception of a plasma cutter.

Maybe if I take a lesson form myself and endevor to do something useless I might make it. I remember the days in the foundry (I have had a great many different jobs) and I could get some sand, even from the beach, I know I would have to put it in an oven and bake all the moisture out of it, then carve or machine a wood mold. I have fresnel lenses in the 1,000-1,200 sqft. range, on a sunny day after making an oven I could use the sun's rays to melt steel. Let's see if those "OV" gloves really work eh ?

But I don't know what to make.

That's the fucking problem.

I do appreciate the input but I don't think the oil fields are quite for me, or more aptly put, me for them.

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RE: Laughing as Rome Burns to the Ground!! - 9/17/2011 7:23:54 PM   
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Dude, one less company paying unemployment insurance premiums is not a good thing, particularly if you are unemployed.

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RE: Laughing as Rome Burns to the Ground!! - 9/17/2011 10:34:50 PM   
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As Many may know I was terminated from my last position in February because I couldn't make their mandatory 5% sales goal.

Many of my previous posts reflected that I figured that this mandatory sales crap and all of their other changes were just a prelude to the company closing its operations in my city.

GUESS WHAT

Its happened, they are going to shut down their Columbia SC operations in six months!

I saw the writing on the wall, I knew they were pissing off the customers, that their policies were pissing off the employees and ultimately they would suffer backlash.

They spent tens of millions to refurbish their building, but they drove customers and employees off by the truckload. Now they have to reap the whirlwind.

I may still be unemployed but I am laughing as Rome burns to the ground!

What are you a "master" of? Whining?

Oh, and you might want to lay off the Cheetos. Morbid obesity is a liability for job seekers in the best of times; in this economy, no company would want to pay yhe insurance premiums.

I recommend Wellbutrin.


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RE: Laughing as Rome Burns to the Ground!! - 9/17/2011 11:49:47 PM   
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"Morbid obesity is a liability for job seekers in the best of times;"

You might as well bring that up. Who knows what's happening with this federal bullshit, they might make you take a physical to get a fucking job sweeping the flor. They seem to want drug tests for the most ridiculously underpaying jobs. What's next ? I know someone who lost an interview the other day because of obesity. It is something to consider.

However this drug to lose weight in notime shit can't be good for you. Knowing the shit they make now I think you would be better off with the old black beauties - 18.875s all the time. About eight of them a day will fix you up, but if you get addicted to them you are fucked and usually will go on to coke or crack (freebase in the old days) if not crank (meth).

Then they have those metabolising pills that really fuck with your chemistry, I wouldn't touch them with a ten foot pole.

Let that be a lesson though, don't gain the fucking weight in the first place. It takes ten times as long to take off, and then you feel deflated, because you are. I lost a bunch of weight years ago but it was like going from 250 down to 180. Of course now I am not getting much work so I am probably half way back up there. Dammit, I need some fucking work, and I don't mean sitting here doing stock trades or some shit. I need a fucking hammer and a drill, a saw, and at least one tool with wheels.

I'll get to it.

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