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A very good day for the GOP. Lets also not forget about the blowout in Nevada.

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Twin defeats spark Democratic fears




HOWARD BEACH, N.Y. — The Democratic Party’s rare loss of a congressional seat in its urban heartland Tuesday, accompanied by a blowout defeat in a Nevada special election, marked the latest in a string of demoralizing setbacks that threatened to deepen the party’s crisis of confidence and raise concerns about President Barack Obama’s political fortunes.

In New York, Republican Bob Turner soundly defeated Democrat David Weprin in a House contest that – in the view of party leaders, at least — featured an anemic urban machine, distracted labor unions, and disloyal voters. In Nevada, a consequential state for the president’s re-election strategy, Democrats suffered a runaway loss rooted in a weak showing in Reno’s Washoe County, a key bellwether.Even before the polls closed, the recriminations – something short of panic, and considerably more than mere grumbling – had begun. On a high-level campaign conference call Tuesday afternoon, Democratic donors and strategists commiserated over their disappointment in Obama. A source on the call described the mood as “awful.”...


Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0911/63466.html#ixzz1XvyWktew

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Hmmm.  Safe seats just don't seem so safe, anymore.  Now the election to replace Wu is basically the west side of Portland, Or.  If that goes to a Republican too...

Spending, Social Security, and Israel might have been at the top of the polls, but rather obviously, a district that has gone D for decades was willing to even listen to a Republican to begin with, and then (according to AP's projection) actually elect one.  I don't think it qualifies as a referendum, but it is a damn good indicator of mood.

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I predict con-chest-thumping if they win and con-forgotten/Turner who?,... if they lose.

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A good day for the USA, a little light might be starting to shine.

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Hmmm.  Safe seats just don't seem so safe, anymore.  Now the election to replace Wu is basically the west side of Portland, Or.  If that goes to a Republican too...

Spending, Social Security, and Israel might have been at the top of the polls, but rather obviously, a district that has gone D for decades was willing to even listen to a Republican to begin with, and then (according to AP's projection) actually elect one.  I don't think it qualifies as a referendum, but it is a damn good indicator of mood.

I don't know, maybe not, but Turner ran on opposition to Obama policies, spending, telling voters he would work to eliminate regulations, the department of agriculture. scaling back the EPA and department of education. He ran as a conservative without being squishy about it as so many republicans do, especially in that part of the country. His opponent ran against the Tea Party.  IMHO I'm calling it a referendum but certainly a damn good indicator of things to come.

  Edited to add Turner claims this election was about President Obama.

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

Hmmm.  Safe seats just don't seem so safe, anymore.  Now the election to replace Wu is basically the west side of Portland, Or.  If that goes to a Republican too...

Spending, Social Security, and Israel might have been at the top of the polls, but rather obviously, a district that has gone D for decades was willing to even listen to a Republican to begin with, and then (according to AP's projection) actually elect one.  I don't think it qualifies as a referendum, but it is a damn good indicator of mood.

I don't know, maybe not, but Turner ran on opposition to Obama policies, spending, telling voters he would work to eliminate regulations, the department of agriculture. scaling back the EPA and department of education. He ran as a conservative without being squishy about it as so many republicans do, especially in that part of the country. His opponent ran against the Tea Party.  IMHO I'm calling it a referendum but certainly a damn good indicator of things to come.

Edited to add Turner claims this election was about President Obama.

No he didn`t.

He ran on who supported Israel more.
I think that falls under "Obama policies". While it was certainly a major issue, that's not all there was to it.

As far as the rest of your post that has nothing to do with mine I would have to say, "So What".  If that election were being held today, would it have turned out the same I wonder. Yes it went in the democrats favor over the medicare issue. Now tell me something I don't know.

The race lost a few months ago where a dem took a safe con seat was run on SS and healthcare reform.

The dems won that seat on domestic policy,not foreign policy.

From Wikki

The district is traditionally a safe Republican seat, having been continuously represented by Republicans since Jack Kemp's election in 1970. Democrats had made serious, but unsuccessful, attempts to gain the seat with self-financed candidate Jack Davis in 2004 and 2006 as well as Alice Kryzan in 2008, but nominated only token opposition in 2010 when Philip Fedele ran.

[edit] Medicare

According to many observers, the campaign "turned into a referendum on the Republican plan to overhaul Medicare" because of Corwin's support for the Republican alternative budget proposed by Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), a proposal that would replace government-provided health care with partial subsidies for the cost of private medical insurance.[9] Hochul criticized the Ryan plan and supports the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, which Corwin wants to repeal completely.[10] Davis opposed both the Ryan plan and the Affordable Care Act.

[edit] Tea Party involvement

The local leaders of the Tea Party movement had divided their support between Republican nominee Jane Corwin, independent petitioner Jack Davis, and potential candidate David Bellavia. Jim Ostrowski, the leader of a libertarian-leaning tea party group (the Tea Party Coalition of WNY), endorsed Davis, criticizing Corwin for her lack of outreach to the Tea Party groups, and arranged to put the name "Tea" on Davis's ballot line.[11][12] TEA New York, a more mainstream Republican-leaning tea party group, was divided between Bellavia and Corwin, with several of its members backing Bellavia's ultimately unsuccessful petition campaign and others (the best known being gubernatorial nominee Carl Paladino) backing Corwin from the beginning.[13][14] After Bellavia failed to get onto the ballot, TEA New York endorsed Corwin. TEA New York refused to consider cross-endorsing Davis, mainly because of the use of the name "Tea Party" on Davis's ballot line (a tactic the Tea Party Coalition also used in the 2010 elections), to which he and numerous other Tea Party groups objected.[15] TEA New York, the Tea Party Express and numerous other Tea Party groups campaigned on behalf of Corwin and attempted to portray Davis as a "fake Tea Party" candidate.

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Liberals take safe republican seats too so anythings possible.

http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlepolitics/2011/05/24/democrat-takes-safe-gop-n-y-house-seat/

But right now it`s 51 to 48 and a 5% MOE,that`s a tie.

We`ll see.

I predict con-chest-thumping if they win and con-forgotten/Turner who?,... if they lose.

WTF are you talking about. Its over lol. 51:48 was the Queens margin for Weprin. Overall it was 54:46. And there is no "MOE" in an actual election.

The Hochul seat was 4 months ago..before the deficit debate, before the jobs bill, and right after the bin Laden bump. A different galaxy from where things are now.

Oh come on wilbur, you know one of the flakes will appear with 14 pages of research showing how either A) the election was rigged, B) how Catholics and Jews are racist, or C) that Israel is a criminal state that should simply sit quietly while they are slaughtered. I know, C doesn't have anything to do with the election but hell, liberals are like flies. They come from all directions.

Give it a bit, and fargle will probably find something that implies all three and run it with a STUPID COCKSUCKING REPUBLICAN headline.

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Edited to add Turner claims this election was about President Obama.

Claims.. interesting choice of words.

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New Yorkers like most Americans aren`t happy about the economy and said so in exit polling.That and Israel were the big issues.Not Obama or his policies.

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I don't know, maybe not, but Turner ran on opposition to Obama policies, spending, telling voters he would work to eliminate regulations, the department of agriculture. scaling back the EPA and department of education.