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RE: Solyndra Bites the Big One - 9/10/2011 5:43:49 PM

Politesub53

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ORIGINAL: DeviantlyD

Are you kidding? An actual bona fide reference? Don't hold your breath. ;)

Aint that the truth. breath play is no fun holidng it as long as I have waiting for a reply.

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RE: Solyndra Bites the Big One - 9/10/2011 6:23:08 PM

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"I cant seem to find it."

Remember that when that happens to me and people start saying I am crazy or a liar.

However I am aware that there is a move on to assert that you do not own the rain that falls on your property. This is not about damming up rivers and streams, this is about collecting rain water for personal use. I can see the difference like if there is a stream and the water is FLOWING onto your property and if rain is FALLING on your property, but the assertion now is that you own none of it and next is the well water. (that's not BS)

Also if you have high tension wires running across your property you can't pick up power inductively from them, which is strange because in doing so you would be improving the efficiency of the conductors. Doesn't matter, no matter what you don't own it. In fact if I dug up some gold in my backyard I wouldn't sell it piblicly, because I don't even want to ask.......

So if you own the PVs but not the excess power, then they are saying that you don't own the sunlight falling on your property. Can't be much else.

Takers will never stop finding more ways to take. I know that because I know how people are and that is why I do not doubt your statement.

It would be nice to have proof though, because quite frankly I would like to make a big stink about it. For several reasons.

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RE: Solyndra Bites the Big One - 9/10/2011 6:26:57 PM

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I will keep looking Termy.

Guilt myself of calling people liars if they say they cant find a link, only when they have done it several times though.

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RE: Solyndra Bites the Big One - 10/5/2011 2:27:51 PM

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I was listening to Laura Ingraham and she was talking to a reporter who's been looking into this "Solyndra" thing.
The reporter called the Justice Dept and the White House asking questions and said that the people she was talking to started "yelling" and "screaming" (in the case of the W.H. contact) at her for asking questions about Solyndra.
Now there appears that some money could have been "laundered" into the Democratic Commitee!
Well, well, well, this is going to start getting interesting!

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RE: Solyndra Bites the Big One - 10/9/2011 7:17:33 PM

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After close to a week at a solar workshop- here's what I've got on the Solyndra debacle...

Yes, it's gossip- but it's industry gossip..

1) Solyndras stuff was actually pretty popular in northern Japan. Turns out that it works well in snowy climes, the cylinders don't allow the snow to stick, and the snow falls through increasing albedo-so power production in winter increases rather than decreases.

2) There is some chance that the line will be sold intact, although it's going to take at least a year to deal with DOJ issues.

3) The company had a high burn rate. Given that there were VCs in the firm, this isn't all that surprising, but they spent money too quickly and somewhat foolishly.

4) The DOE has people that reviewed business plans of other firms that received money. This team was bypassed for Solyndra. Clearly there was some political maneuvering for funding.

5) Overall the PV industry is in deep, deep trouble. Estimates out of China are that global PV production capacity is 50 GW. This capacity glut is what's causing the current prices to fall, not improvements in production technology. Current global demand is around 20 GW. There are companies in China that have shut down production lines- thus there's a fair amount of pain going around. Also- Chinese companies have little to differentiate their products, whereas Solyndra did.

Clearly, there's lots of pain in the PV industry now. However, China is angling to become the worlds PV supplier and I think this is a terrible problem- if they lock up production, the rest of the world will have to buy from them, and that doesn't sound good to me.

Sam

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