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FirmhandKY -> How About Ryan? (8/16/2011 3:12:50 PM)

The worst kept secret in D.C.: Conservatives trying to get Ryan to run
By Jennifer Rubin
08/16/2011

Extracts:

I know of multiple conservative “envoys” who have privately met with him, urging him to run and pointing to the lack of serious debate on the issues Ryan knows best (taxes, entitlements, etc.) The latest meeting was last week when a highly regarded emissary in the conservative movement visited him to reiterate the case for his presidency. A person with knowledge of the meeting joked that he hoped Ryan would find “inspiration” on the mountain top.

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“this is a match between the man and the moment. What I mean by that is that we’re in a particularly perilous situation economically. In most instances, what we hope for in a president is someone who is capable of making wise and informed decisions that lead to economic growth. Competence and good judgment are enough. But if we are in a period of unusual hardship and unusual challenges — which I believe to be the case — then we need to find someone of unusual gifts and talents.” He adds, “The one public figure who is comparable to Paul when it comes to this skill set is Governor Mitch Daniels. But his decision not to enter the race means we’re now down to one. And Ryan is the one. It’s true that he’s young, that he has no executive experience, and that the hour is growing late. But not too late. The stars, I think, are aligning his way. And now is his time.”

Isn't Ryan the guy that was married to 7 of 9, and had the kinky divorce?

Firm




Lucylastic -> RE: How About Ryan? (8/16/2011 3:13:56 PM)

As he is a scum sucking ditch pig, Im sure he will find plenty of people wanting to vote for him.




FirmhandKY -> RE: How About Ryan? (8/16/2011 3:19:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

As he is a scum sucking ditch pig, Im sure he will find plenty of people wanting to vote for him.

Whoooaa, don't hold anything back, Lucy!

Firm




willbeurdaddy -> RE: How About Ryan? (8/16/2011 3:34:52 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

The worst kept secret in D.C.: Conservatives trying to get Ryan to run
By Jennifer Rubin
08/16/2011

Extracts:

I know of multiple conservative “envoys” who have privately met with him, urging him to run and pointing to the lack of serious debate on the issues Ryan knows best (taxes, entitlements, etc.) The latest meeting was last week when a highly regarded emissary in the conservative movement visited him to reiterate the case for his presidency. A person with knowledge of the meeting joked that he hoped Ryan would find “inspiration” on the mountain top.

...

“this is a match between the man and the moment. What I mean by that is that we’re in a particularly perilous situation economically. In most instances, what we hope for in a president is someone who is capable of making wise and informed decisions that lead to economic growth. Competence and good judgment are enough. But if we are in a period of unusual hardship and unusual challenges — which I believe to be the case — then we need to find someone of unusual gifts and talents.” He adds, “The one public figure who is comparable to Paul when it comes to this skill set is Governor Mitch Daniels. But his decision not to enter the race means we’re now down to one. And Ryan is the one. It’s true that he’s young, that he has no executive experience, and that the hour is growing late. But not too late. The stars, I think, are aligning his way. And now is his time.”

Isn't Ryan the guy that was married to 7 of 9, and had the kinky divorce?

Firm




He has limited private sector experience, and will be hard to push past Romney on the economic issues despite his degree. But, he probably has better credibility as both social and fiscal conservative than any of those currently in, without as much of the religious baggage that could turn off the middle to Perry. His brave position on SS and Medicare will provide a lot of potential for "granny over the cliff" nonsense, and scare tactics do work. He would obliterate Obama in a debate though, and could be articulate enough and determined enough to counter all of the lies. He's libertarian enough to secure the Ron Paul adherents, which could be a growing group as well...moreso than the perceived "next in line good old boy" Romney.

He would bring a lot of energy for sure, but its very difficult to elect someone out of the House of Reps. I wonder if his not being on the super congress is related to him thinking that he wont have time to do both that and build a campaign though.




willbeurdaddy -> RE: How About Ryan? (8/16/2011 3:36:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

As he is a scum sucking ditch pig, Im sure he will find plenty of people wanting to vote for him.

Whoooaa, don't hold anything back, Lucy!

Firm




Thats the best endorsement Ryan could have. He's now my number one!




FirmhandKY -> RE: How About Ryan? (8/16/2011 3:38:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

quote:

ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

As he is a scum sucking ditch pig, Im sure he will find plenty of people wanting to vote for him.

Whoooaa, don't hold anything back, Lucy!


Thats the best endorsement Ryan could have. He's now my number one!

The law of unintended consequences strikes again!

Firm




Lucylastic -> RE: How About Ryan? (8/16/2011 3:51:23 PM)

theres method in my madness Firm:) truly!!!




housesub4you -> RE: How About Ryan? (8/16/2011 4:12:19 PM)

Ryan is a joke just like his budget,  face it the GOP has no one..  I mean Ron Paul only lost by 1% in Iowa.  The GOP hates this guy and his views yet he came in second losing by 1% 






willbeurdaddy -> RE: How About Ryan? (8/16/2011 4:23:32 PM)


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ORIGINAL: housesub4you

Ryan is a joke just like his budget,  face it the GOP has no one..  I mean Ron Paul only lost by 1% in Iowa.  The GOP hates this guy and his views yet he came in second losing by 1% 





In a meaningless exercise that has rarely predicted the eventual nominee. Whooppeee. Romney crushed the opposition in 2007 and didnt even win the Iowa caucus.




Theon38 -> RE: How About Ryan? (8/16/2011 4:39:13 PM)

You're thinking of Jack Ryan, who ran against then State Senator Obama.

No relation between Jack Ryan and Congressman Ryan.




willbeurdaddy -> RE: How About Ryan? (8/16/2011 4:40:06 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Theon38

You're thinking of Jack Ryan, who ran against then State Senator Obama.

No relation between Jack Ryan and Congressman Ryan.


huh?




Theon38 -> RE: How About Ryan? (8/16/2011 5:13:21 PM)

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Isn't Ryan the guy that was married to 7 of 9, and had the kinky divorce?

Firm


FirmhandKY wrote;

quote:

Isn't Ryan the guy that was married to 7 of 9, and had the kinky divorce?

Firm


I was responding to that. He's thinking of Jack Ryan from Illinois.




willbeurdaddy -> RE: How About Ryan? (8/16/2011 5:14:49 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Theon38

quote:

Isn't Ryan the guy that was married to 7 of 9, and had the kinky divorce?

Firm


FirmhandKY wrote;

quote:

Isn't Ryan the guy that was married to 7 of 9, and had the kinky divorce?

Firm


I was responding to that. He's thinking of Jack Ryan from Illinois.


Ahhhh...it showed up as a response to me. I was wondering who Firm was talking about, since afaik Paul Ryan is squeaky clean.




housesub4you -> RE: How About Ryan? (8/16/2011 5:22:28 PM)

I agree it was meaning less, yet not to FOX or Bachmann.  Hell they are ready to move her into the white house. 





willbeurdaddy -> RE: How About Ryan? (8/16/2011 5:29:15 PM)


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ORIGINAL: housesub4you

I agree it was meaning less, yet not to FOX or Bachmann.  Hell they are ready to move her into the white house. 




sure they are. Obviously you dont watch Fox.




FirmhandKY -> RE: How About Ryan? (8/16/2011 7:10:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Theon38

quote:

Isn't Ryan the guy that was married to 7 of 9, and had the kinky divorce? 


FirmhandKY wrote;

quote:

Isn't Ryan the guy that was married to 7 of 9, and had the kinky divorce?


I was responding to that. He's thinking of Jack Ryan from Illinois.

Thanks Theon.

About the only thing I knew about this Ryan was that he came up with a pretty good budget.

Firm




Edwynn -> RE: How About Ryan? (8/16/2011 9:28:32 PM)




The guy (Paul Ryan) does indeed have interesting things to say.

He voted for the TARP bailouts and proposes an 8.5% value-added tax, among other things.

But until he or anyone else from either party tackles head-on the corporate welfare situation (which he seemingly has no interest in), I'm still waiting for any 'fiscal conservative' worthy of the name.








DarkSteven -> RE: How About Ryan? (8/17/2011 3:01:00 AM)

Rick Perry just sauntered into the GOP primary and instantly became almost the front runner.  And now Ryan may do the same.  That's after the party loyal begged Christie to run.

So is this GOP just insanely picky, or is the field really that bad?




mnottertail -> RE: How About Ryan? (8/17/2011 6:21:28 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


quote:

ORIGINAL: housesub4you

Ryan is a joke just like his budget,  face it the GOP has no one..  I mean Ron Paul only lost by 1% in Iowa.  The GOP hates this guy and his views yet he came in second losing by 1% 





In a meaningless exercise that has rarely predicted the eventual nominee. Whooppeee. Romney crushed the opposition in 2007 and didnt even win the Iowa caucus.



And he apparently didnt crush the opposition quite enough, he is not POTUS (and will never be).




willbeurdaddy -> RE: How About Ryan? (8/17/2011 9:32:58 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

Rick Perry just sauntered into the GOP primary and instantly became almost the front runner.  And now Ryan may do the same.  That's after the party loyal begged Christie to run.

So is this GOP just insanely picky, or is the field really that bad?




I dont think Ryan will enter, and if he did I dont think hed be the front runner. He's have a long road to even get name recognition.
Also Perry wasnt really "instant". He's been campaigning for months, just without declaring.




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