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ORIGINAL: Owner59

http://www.thestar.com/opinion/editorials/article/1029625--norway-defies-the-haters

Great article from our friends to the north.

"Indeed, Oslo’s principled response should inspire leaders across Europe. Many are under pressure to adopt invasive surveillance policies; to curb immigration and refuse to accommodate Muslims and others; and to pare back foreign engagement and aid. Norway’s No to the peddlers of fear and isolation should echo across the region.

It is especially admirable given the sheer scale of Friday’s attacks, some of the worst Europe has suffered. A truck bomb shattered the Labour Prime Minister’s office in Oslo, and left dead and injured scattered in the streets. And a gunman wreaked havoc for 90 minutes at a Labour organized holiday camp, killing scores of terrified teenagers while police were fatally slow to respond. He deliberately targeted the nation’s current and future liberal leaders. The country has not faced loss like this in peacetime."

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

http://www.thestar.com/opinion/editorials/article/1029625--norway-defies-the-haters

Great article from our friends to the north.

"Indeed, Oslo’s principled response should inspire leaders across Europe. Many are under pressure to adopt invasive surveillance policies; to curb immigration and refuse to accommodate Muslims and others; and to pare back foreign engagement and aid. Norway’s No to the peddlers of fear and isolation should echo across the region.

It is especially admirable given the sheer scale of Friday’s attacks, some of the worst Europe has suffered. A truck bomb shattered the Labour Prime Minister’s office in Oslo, and left dead and injured scattered in the streets. And a gunman wreaked havoc for 90 minutes at a Labour organized holiday camp, killing scores of terrified teenagers while police were fatally slow to respond. He deliberately targeted the nation’s current and future liberal leaders. The country has not faced loss like this in peacetime."

Oh Jeeze! Owner, it seems that many people in Norway don't like their government's policies so that makes them "haters?"
Then you'd be a "hater" too!
Where do you come up with this stuff? I mean how do you do it???

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

http://www.thestar.com/opinion/editorials/article/1029625--norway-defies-the-haters

Great article from our friends to the north.

"Indeed, Oslo’s principled response should inspire leaders across Europe. Many are under pressure to adopt invasive surveillance policies; to curb immigration and refuse to accommodate Muslims and others; and to pare back foreign engagement and aid. Norway’s No to the peddlers of fear and isolation should echo across the region.

It is especially admirable given the sheer scale of Friday’s attacks, some of the worst Europe has suffered. A truck bomb shattered the Labour Prime Minister’s office in Oslo, and left dead and injured scattered in the streets. And a gunman wreaked havoc for 90 minutes at a Labour organized holiday camp, killing scores of terrified teenagers while police were fatally slow to respond. He deliberately targeted the nation’s current and future liberal leaders. The country has not faced loss like this in peacetime."

Oh Jeeze! Owner, it seems that many people in Norway don't like their government's policies so that makes them "haters?"
Then you'd be a "hater" too!
Where do you come up with this stuff? I mean how do you do it???

We need an avitar for someone completely clueless....

Like something flying past your head or the like....

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

No, one with the likness of Sara Palin.
I don't understand, are you calling half of the Norwegian People "haters?" Because of their political beliefs?

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Greetings

I feel I have to defend the police here, the police where not fatally slow to respond, unfortunately the Norwegian police can not teleport, it takes a certain amount of time to drive from Oslo to Utøya, it takes a certain amount of time to organize a task force when about all of the capitol's police is busy with the bombing, I do not think the police could have gotten there quicker. The Norwegian police have performed their duties admirably given that we have never had a situation like this in our nation before.

I wish you well

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ORIGINAL: nephandi

Greetings

I feel I have to defend the police here, the police where not fatally slow to respond, unfortunately the Norwegian police can not teleport, it takes a certain amount of time to drive from Oslo to Utøya, it takes a certain amount of time to organize a task force when about all of the capitol's police is busy with the bombing, I do not think the police could have gotten there quicker. The Norwegian police have performed their duties admirably given that we have never had a situation like this in our nation before.

I wish you well

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It appears this rich spoiled brat planned all this months ahead from what the police have discovered.

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ORIGINAL: FirstQuaker

Build a 'special' prison just for him on the island and let the shades of the children he killed torment him.

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ORIGINAL: FirstQuaker

Build a 'special' prison just for him on the island and let the shades of the children he killed torment him.

He is a sociopath, ergo he won't be feeling guilt, remorse or empathy for his victims. He considers them "lesser beings".

All building a prison on that island would do would be to forever mark it as "his" territory, which would make him the victor.

Better would be to build a memorial, remember the dead at the appropriate times/dates, and then carry on as if nothing had happened the rest of the year. Which is what I suspect the Norwegians will end up doing.

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ORIGINAL: Aneirin

Exactly and that is the way to deal with terrorists or any other similar mentality, ignore them, allow life to go on unhindered so that the radicals understand that acts of terrorism are useless as it does not promote their agenda. But Norway has a model to look at in terms of terrorism, the last ten years as it has affected some other countries thus indicating the terrorists have in effect achieved their aim which in the case of AQ was to disrupt the comfort felt by citizens of those other countries, as we all know just what has come to pass since terrorists wreaked havoc on our lives, our comfort in the name of security has been severely eroded, we are all now in effect potential terrorists in our own countries according to the enhanced security measures we have allowed into our lives. The affected countries are turning on themselves, paranoia reigns supreme, we are all ill.

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ORIGINAL: FirstQuaker

Oh I have to disagree. The man is a paladin, a tw00 believer. Fancies himself the Knight Templar fighting the invading horders.

If only he was a sociopath. They don't believe in much of anything, save themselves.

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He is a sociopath, ergo he won't be feeling guilt, remorse or empathy for his victims. He considers them "lesser beings".

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ORIGINAL: zephyroftheNorth

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He is a sociopath, ergo he won't be feeling guilt, remorse or empathy for his victims. He considers them "lesser beings".

I don't know about that. There are reports that he wore earplugs to block out the screams; that he saw what he did as a necessary evil. That doesn't sound like a sociopath to me.

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ORIGINAL: zephyroftheNorth

Of course it's possible that he's lying but only he himself knows the truth, the rest of us can only guess. My impression from what I've read is that he isn't a sociopath, indeed that is the conclusion reached by those who conducted the psych evaluation.

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ORIGINAL: Aneirin

Exactly and that is the way to deal with terrorists or any other similar mentality, ignore them, allow life to go on unhindered so that the radicals understand that acts of terrorism are useless as it does not promote their agenda. But Norway has a model to look at in terms of terrorism, the last ten years as it has affected some other countries thus indicating the terrorists have in effect achieved their aim which in the case of AQ was to disrupt the comfort felt by citizens of those other countries, as we all know just what has come to pass since terrorists wreaked havoc on our lives, our comfort in the name of security has been severely eroded, we are all now in effect potential terrorists in our own countries according to the enhanced security measures we have allowed into our lives. The affected countries are turning on themselves, paranoia reigns supreme, we are all ill.

Fair comment, IMHO.

I've related this story before on CM, but it still tickles me;

Just after the London bombs, a news team were out doing vox pop recordings, and talking to people attempting to get to and from work by public transport - the same public transport that had been bombed days before. The reactions were varied, as one might expect, with concern, some fear, and a great deal of bravery being exhibited, but the guy who most made me proud to be a Londoner was an old codger, walking slowly towards his local station, smoking a roll-up ciggie, who was asked if he was concerned about further attacks. His carefully considered reply?

"Nah. Fuck em" :)

And that, folks, is how you deal with terrorists and the threat of terror.