DecadentDesire
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But you, like the rest, and the coders of forum software as well do not understand backwards compatibility. If you don't make it backward compatible you limit your potential audience and have joined the rush you try to get people to join the rush that left early to miss the rush. You keep upgrading your software and your shit will run so slow you will need to upgrade your hardware, which will require newer and ever newer software which will soon enough require another hardware upgrade.
I'm not really sure where this assumption that I don't know anything about backwards compatibility is coming from since the issue I raised in my post has...nothing to do with backwards compatibility. The issue of HTML character entities not rendering correctly is usually due to a bug, something some programmer forgot and therefore, corrected in some minor release.
As far as backwards compatibility, the lack of backwards compatibility is always someone else's fault. The CSS rules and Javascript engine in IE7 isn't compatible with IE6. The one in IE8 isn't compatible with IE7. And when your part of a small development crew, trying to make a buck, it doesn't make much sense to spend 12 hours of non-billable time hacking your web application to work in a browser that only has 5-6% percent of the market share.
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I will not be strung along like that, that is for fools and those with an ego problem. Your shit ain't as fast as the day you bought it because it is running software that was designed for BRAND NEW machines. I run shit that was designed for 486s and shit and guess what, everything is instantaneous. Google in less 0.012 seconds, less than it takes for the results. I want it in the blink of an eye. And that my friends is what I have. I have killer image editors from the 1990s that open and save and all that so fast you can't even think of waiting for it. The internet, the only problem with that are anal programmers who insists everyone have the latest version. Fukum. They limit their audience, consider me a limitation.
Well, I suppose I could go into a long list of the advantages of modern operating systems and software versus 1990, but somehow I have feeling that is going to be lost...
Actually, with most development teams I have known, including the one I work for, what versions to support is usually pretty calculated. It's a question of how big of a market share the version in question has versus the time required to modifiy the application to support it.
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Let me lay out a word for the wise here, ( forum software progerammers are you there ? ) ; sites that sell things do not nag you to update your browser. They make their site - YES, THAT'S IT - backward compatible. You know why ? BECAUSE THERE IS MONEY INVOLVED. Wanna bet I can't get on eBay with IE4, or maybe even earlier. How about Opera one, the first version.
Certainly, because eBay has the time and money to pay programmers to make their website work in a dinosaur like IE6. For everyone else, it's just not practical from a business perspective, given it's market share. IE7 will soon follow suit now that Google has officially dropped support for it.
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They want you to have more functionality FOR THEM. Don't you get it ? I can do alot of things at work in IE5, in fact I bet this site would work fine in IE5, it did. Now we have an apostrophe issue. The cure is to update the software until the fucking hardware can't run it anymore and then that will stimulate the economy. Quite sheeplistic.
I am sure you can get a lot of things to "work" in IE5, but whether or not they work correctly is another question, given it uses an archaic Javascript engine and doesn't support the standard of CSS used to build, pretty much, every website produced in the last 4 years.
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Pay pay pay. Hey, I did pay, did my money expire ? That' what I told Dlink when they found out I was using 98SE. They refused me help on the phone. I will NEVER buy another of their products and I will never recommend them to anyone. The router was not that old at the time. The guy said straight out that he knew how to help me set it up but because of the rules he could not do it. How the fuck would you take that ?
Well, DLink does kind of suck, but really, investing the $500 for a modern computer than can support a modern OS and modern software provides huge advantages compared to the stuff you seem to be running on, provided you take advantage of those advantages and not remain cemented in this "older is better" mentality. And unless your a hardcore gamer, there is no reason why that $500 rig can't keep you going for the next 2-3 years with proper maintenance. It's not quite the money pit it used to be, mainly because advancements in hardware are starting to peak.
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Just what the fuck would a newer browser do for me ? I got IE6 now. I downlioaded IE7 but I won't install it, know why ? I read the release notes and every fucking line regards something that they disabled. For security. I thought that was my fucking problem. It is you know. Well with this I can disect this page right here and send it back to you saying that you said the man in the moon stopped by. They don't want people doing thast. And I got IE8 on my laptops, fuck that. I can't even get to the router setup page in that piece of shit. And I have used Mozilla as well as Chrome, I see nothing that impresses me at al. At all. It's like a shell on top of a shell on top of a shell.
Nobody seems to remember one basic fact, Windows is a fucking DOS shell. That is the way it is. Any browser in Windows other than IE is actually an IE shell. Think I am wrong ? Fuck around with some settings to cement IE6 in place and then download a better and newer browser, all the errors will still be there. I have had to fix a couple of PCs with that problem, uninstall all browsers except IE, then update IE, THEN install whatever browsers you want.
You are kind of right. Yes, the modern software world does have some problems with a growing application stack. The new Chrome OS is a good example of that. And yes, Windows configuration settings can impact all applications across the board. But things like the Javascript engine, CSS rendering engine, etc that are part of the individual browsers and not part of windows DO have a significant impact on how webpages are displayed from browser to browser, regardless of what your OS is.
I also think your undercutting a lot of the value of having a modern browser. I can't think of anyone (besides you) who doesn't believe that IE 9 (or even IE 8) is a significant improvement over IE6.
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Fixes it every time. Except when you really fuck up and get error 12007. Look it up.
I don't need to. It's the "Cannot connect to webpage error", typically resolved by reconnecting to your wireless router or plugging in your ethernet cable.
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Youtube nags me to update, but it works just fine. Hulu, IMDB, all the rest work just fine as long as you got the flashplayer. It comes from Sun Microsystems BTW, not Microshaft. And fuck them and the ass they rode in on.
I think you're thinking of Java. Sun Microsystems produced Java which is now owned by Oracle. Flash was produced by Macromedia which is owned by Adobe.
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And if Vista is any kind of glimpse into what 7 is like, I will learn Linux. And I am not kidding. I have been in this forum on Linux so I know it works.
T^T
It's a huge improvement over Vista. As a devoted Ubuntu/Linux user, I have to swallow my pride and admit that I like Windows 7 almost as much as I like Ubuntu.
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