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RE: Fox news Doesnt remember 9/11 - 7/15/2011 11:38:55 AM   
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But what benefit would this false truth be to anyone?

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RE: Fox news Doesnt remember 9/11 - 7/15/2011 11:47:42 AM   
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Talking about all of this, I'm remembering Obama saying he was going to bring the troops home...funny but I also remember him staffing up even more, and now we fight wars in 3 countries, even though Libya posed absolutely no threat to us.

Fact is, and this one IS verifiable, either side of the aisle...doesn't make a difference:

If you look at the damage inflicted on us from Al Qaida, in light of the damage being inflicted on us by both parties in the U.S. government economically speaking, the REAL terrorist is our own government. Facts are, we are printing our way out of debt, but the debt is too big to print our way out of, the government is passing that on as inflation to all of us. Remember 98 cent gas back in 1999? What is it now? Remember the cost of milk, bread, laundry detergent then? What is it now?

Both sides of the aisle are spoiled children with a no-limit credit card, and about to get that credit card cut in half....and the sad thing is, whether it's Bush or Obama, republican or democrat, I can assure you that when it all hits the fan, not a single politician will stand in a bread line or worry about paying a house payment.


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RE: Fox news Doesnt remember 9/11 - 7/15/2011 12:03:25 PM   
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Exactly. Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld promised this would be a quick in/out and a cheap operation.

They HAD to have known that was crap.

McCain, at least, told the truth, when he said we'd be there a long, long time.

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RE: Fox news Doesnt remember 9/11 - 7/15/2011 12:09:52 PM   
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I dunno, Wolfowitz and Chalabi filled their head with visions of sugarplums.

How else do you account for this insightful stance in 1994 from Ming the Merciless, himself?

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RE: Fox news Doesnt remember 9/11 - 7/15/2011 12:20:36 PM   
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If it was said with forethought for a purpose...what the hell would it be? I mean what gain politically would there be?

Butch


The gain would be political, to enhance Bush's reputation and by extension that of the GOP.

We have this idiot on Fox saying it, we have Perino saying it, but I did forget to mention Giuliani.

Another in a series of remarkable coincidences.

PolitiFact | Giuliani says there were no domestic attacks during ...

"What he (Obama) should be doing is following the right things that Bush did -- one of the right things he did was treat this as a war on terror. We had no domestic attacks under Bush. We've had one under Obama," Giuliani said.



Even if you want to maintain that what Uncle Rudy and the other two idiots meant was that Bush provided us security after 9/11 then that's still a blatant lie.

From the same link:


Unfortunately, interviewer George Stephanopoulos never sought clarification on Giuliani's statement. After the interview, Stephanopoulos updated his blog to say Giuliani was wrong to say there were no domestic attacks under Bush, and then later apologized for not pressing him on the misstatement.

But let's treat this as if Giuliani meant to say there were no domestic attacks under Bush post-Sept. 11, 2001, and run that past the Truth-O-Meter.

The FBI offers a broad definition of terrorism, calling it "the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives."

Even stricter definitions would have to include:

The anthrax scare. Shortly after 9/11, letters laced with anthrax began appearing in the U.S. mail. Letters went to U.S. senators and news organizations. Before it was over, five Americans were killed and another 17 were injured. "The nation was terrorized in what became the worst biological attacks in U.S. history," according to the FBI.

The shoe bomber. In December 2001, admitted al-Qaida member Richard Reid boarded a plane in Miami with plastic explosives packed in special hollowed-out shoes. The bomb failed to ignite properly and no passengers were hurt. The incident, however, led to Americans having to remove their shoes during airport security screening.

The D.C. sniper case. John Allen Muhammad was convicted on capital terrorism charges for his part in the shooting of 16 people in and around the D.C. area in September and October 2002. Muhammad was executed last year. His 17-year-old accomplice, Lee Boyd Malvo, was sentenced to life in prison.

All three events occurred after Sept. 11 and have been considered terror plots by the federal and state governments.

Media Matters For America, a liberal group that analyzes the news media, documented other examples of U.S. terrorism:

2002 attack against El Al ticket counter at LAX. Hesham Mohamed Hadayet opened fire at an El Al Airlines ticket counter at Los Angeles International Airport, killing two people and wounding four others before being shot dead. Media Matters found a 2004 Justice Department report that Hadayet's case had been "officially designated as an act of international terrorism."

Campus attack at UNC. In March 2006, a University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill graduate drove an SUV onto campus, striking nine pedestrians. Reza Taheri-azar reportedly stated in a letter: "I was aiming to follow in the footsteps of one of my role models, Mohammad Atta, one of the 9/11/01 hijackers, who obtained a doctorate degree."








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RE: Fox news Doesnt remember 9/11 - 7/15/2011 2:28:59 PM   
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sorry


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RE: Fox news Doesnt remember 9/11 - 7/15/2011 5:05:32 PM   
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I don't think there you have any fear of finding a MENSA member working for FOX News,


Or watching it, come to that.

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RE: Fox news Doesnt remember 9/11 - 7/15/2011 7:50:17 PM   
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Once in a while Fox gets something right, or posts some useful news. But then as the saying goes, a broken clock is correct several times a day, too. The AP/AFP is little better.

Anyone who really wants to stay informed has to read a variety of sources and then sort through the lot to discover what is really going on in most cases.

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RE: Fox news Doesnt remember 9/11 - 7/15/2011 8:46:06 PM   
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Come on folks… I think Fox news is as biased as they come but this example of a misstatement in the heat of a debate is a little weak to be accusing an entire network of purposely revising history...You and I know what he was trying to say...even if he was wrong.

Butch


No only you know that. The rest of us know he was lying.

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RE: Fox news Doesnt remember 9/11 - 7/15/2011 9:59:38 PM   
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Would the Spice Girls final reunion tour be considered a terrorist act?

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RE: Fox news Doesnt remember 9/11 - 7/16/2011 6:41:06 AM   
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Well, I should think its going to bomb.

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