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coookie -> RE: lost small child (7/9/2011 10:49:48 PM)
I too am one of those that directed my children to seek out an employee if they were lost. I will help children that are lost or sobbing but i am always cautious because we teach kids to not go with strangers. One of the creepiest things i saw was an adult woman telling a child that it was okay they werent going to hurt them and they had candy. I was thinking what the hell lady you just told this kid everything a pedophile would except that you lost your dog and need help looking for it!

erieangel -> RE: lost small child (7/9/2011 10:57:20 PM)
My daughter was about 5 years old, she went around the block one day to play to with her friend. I walked her to the corner and told her to tell her friend's mother to send her home at a certain time. That time came and went by only about 10 minutes and I began to worry. I walked around the block to the friend's house and nobody was home!! At this point I became hysterical. I went to every house in the neighborhood where I knew somebody was home during the day and asked if they'd seen my daughter--nobody had. Twenty minutes later, I was on the phone with the police who told me they couldn't even take a report until she'd been missing for 24 hours. But less than 5 minutes after I'd hung up from that call, the police called me back, they'd gotten a call from a church four blocks away about a little girl wandering in. It seems my daughter had left her friend's house and decided to go to church. I'm an agnostic but I enrolled my daughter in Sunday school that very week and we began reading Bible stories together. And she was grounded for so long for having crossed the street on her own that she never went anyplace without telling me until she was teenager.

Termyn8or -> RE: lost small child (7/9/2011 11:43:25 PM)
"And unfortunately there are weirdos just waiting for such a situation to take place so they can lure such little ones off never to be seen again, fuckin' great, isn't it? " Yeah, so fucking great we should shoot molesters, period. The fact is, you didn't disagree with what I said. I don't disagree with you. There is a chance of someone actually stalking or skulking around just waiting for a golden opportunity like that. One, if we want to be animals and this is acceptable alright, but I don't want that and I don't think anyone does. I have no idea what makes a molester, and if they even think they do, they are probably wrong like always. It is not acceptable, we can't cure it. So.... Two, kill them. It is that simple. It may or may not disuade others but it sure as hell cuts down on recidivism. We have to excise the cancers in our society. They are sick, cure it. Curing a disease involves killing. Do it. But no we have these fucking bleeding hearts. That is barbaric they say. Well when people were outwardly barbaric the human race improved somewhat. Now that we have this facade of civility, humility and humaneness, we have begun to devolve. Darwin was right, and a few others. Detrimental influences must be eliminated. Not guilty by reason of insanity ? Sure, the penalty for that is death. Remember the movie Ten To Midnight ? "They'll just call me insane, I'll go to an institution for a few years and get out". At that point Charles Bronson blew his head off. I think it was that movie, not sure. And really street justice might be better than court justice. The guy was there, admitted it and everything. Too bad for him he ran into an executioner. This law is all fucked up. A serial rapist could give the locations of the bodies of all his victims and maybe get off because he wasn't mirandized, if he gets the right lawyer. Fuck all that. I actually had a Lakewood cop tell me that a long time ago T^T

LafayetteLady -> RE: lost small child (7/10/2011 12:09:57 AM)
~fast reply~ People not doing anything is nothing new. When I was in elementary school, in first or second grade, we had a class trip to Turtle Back Zoo. As the whole class stopped for lunch, we all went to the rest rooms after. When I came out, no teachers were around, I saw no students, and everyone was gone from our picnic area. I started looking all over, and even asked a couple of adults. No one helped. I then found my way to the front gate, told the "ticket taker" and asked to use the phone. I called my mother crying hysterically that I couldn't find the rest of my group. Some adult from my group finally showed up while I was on the phone. My mother was actually going to come and get me. I just turned 47 last month so this was nearly 40 years ago. I never lost my son in a store until he was a teenager (and then I think he did it on purpose, lol). Only thing that happened was he went to a bathroom at a bookstore once, and I waited right at the end of the hallway, looking at children's books. He was in there so long, I asked some guy if he saw him. When he said he didn't, I asked if anyone else was in there. He said no, and I opened the door and went right in. I did call out to let anyone know a woman was entering. He was still in a stall. He was at that point where going in the ladies room with mom was becoming unacceptable, but I never went out of site of the door. I get furious when I see small children wandering around without their parents in sight.

LinnaeaBorealis -> RE: lost small child (7/10/2011 12:23:09 AM)
There have been serial rapists/murderers who have actually not gotten the death penalty because they got a deal to show where the bodies were buried. If my daughter was one of his victims, I'd tell them not to give him that deal. I'd rather see him executed than to know where my daughter's body was buried.

LafayetteLady -> RE: lost small child (7/10/2011 12:30:26 AM)
I understand what you are saying LB, but most people want the closure of being able to properly bury their child. And while these pedophiles aren't getting the death penalty, they aren't going to get paroled either. I do believe that in those cases, the prosecution should have a conversation with the victim's family and let that guide them in whether to take the death penalty off the table v. life in prison. Although a good number of states still don't have the death penalty for that to even matter. Personally, I would want to know where my child was, but would want the prosecution to not simply take the death penalty off the table, but force the pedophiles into the general population of the prison. Then you still get the death penalty, and it doesn't cost the state a dime, because pedophiles are the lowest of the low even among criminals.

Termyn8or -> RE: lost small child (7/10/2011 12:38:30 AM)
" understand what you are saying LB, but most people want the closure of being able to properly bury their child. " Yes, and no religion extant today even begins to argue against the point that when the spirit, or life is gone, the body is nothing but a carcass. Flesh, without soul of any kind. That shit went out with the mummies and temples and shit. So for personal satisfaction they will risk the lives of other children. Sounds about right. I understand what you're saying, but I think it is not right. Kill the MF and be done with it. T^T

SternSkipper -> RE: lost small child (7/10/2011 12:44:04 AM)
quote: Good for you, David. Unfortunately, julia's right, and being taken for a pedophile applies much more to us men than to women. I would have stopped to talk to the girl but would have been very cautious about it. I've run into this only twice... once with my son and daughter and I was able to send my son to get mall security to make an announcement and just before we heard it we saw the distressed (AND I MEAN DISTRESSED) mom below us in the mall We shouted to her and she came running. She'd been paying for something and her daughter was looking at the impulse buy shit next to the register, she looked at the cashier for a second and that was all it took. The second time though, I was alone and kinda felt weird... So I walked the little boy who was a mess over to the nearest store and had them contact security and hung out long enough to point out where I'd found him. I would recommend this course of action to anyone who is hesitant to help because of the stigma concerns.

LinnaeaBorealis -> RE: lost small child (7/10/2011 1:26:56 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Termyn8or " understand what you are saying LB, but most people want the closure of being able to properly bury their child. " Yes, and no religion extant today even begins to argue against the point that when the spirit, or life is gone, the body is nothing but a carcass. Flesh, without soul of any kind. That shit went out with the mummies and temples and shit. So for personal satisfaction they will risk the lives of other children. Sounds about right. I understand what you're saying, but I think it is not right. Kill the MF and be done with it. T^T I think that watching him die would be closure enough for me. I am of the belief that the body is pretty worthless after the person stops breathing, so I don't believe that my daughter would be wherever that body was. I know how to do closure without watching a body get buried.

sirsholly -> RE: lost small child (7/10/2011 7:19:24 AM)
quote: what would u have done with small child walk on by or help and why do so many just walk on i would have tried to calm the child down while stopping others and asking they call security. But i am a female and can do that without fear. It is sad, but i can understand a male not stopping. I would step back and let security handle it, but not leave the little girl. A man in the same position might listen to a security guard ask her if she was touched in an inappropriate way, if he exposed himself to her, etc.

GreedyTop -> RE: lost small child (7/10/2011 7:22:38 AM)
HOLLY! damn, I wish you'd answer your phone sometimes..

sirsholly -> RE: lost small child (7/10/2011 7:26:12 AM)
quote: I get furious when I see small children wandering around without their parents in sight. Or when the parent walks ahead of the child, expecting the little one to keep up. Do they not realize how easy it would be for someone to grab the baby and bolt right out the door?

sirsholly -> RE: lost small child (7/10/2011 7:27:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GreedyTop HOLLY! damn, I wish you'd answer your phone sometimes.. Greedy!!! It is in Jims car (i hope) [&:]

GreedyTop -> RE: lost small child (7/10/2011 7:35:34 AM)
are you healthy? Unbroken? cringes in anticipation of teh answer

Phoenixpower -> RE: lost small child (7/10/2011 7:38:05 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DavidLee44UK what would u have done with small child walk on by or help and why do so many just walk on I would also helped here, but as others said, I understand when men are careful in doing so. Though if I would be a man I would still act, e. g. with calling the police to let them know that there is a child on the lose and keep an eye on it out of the distance until it is clear that the kid is safe again. I would not want to ignore it and then read the next day that it got snatched, knowing I could have prevented it. When I was aged 14-17 I had one instance where I acted and didn't care what the girl thinks about my response I did. I went off the school bus and a girl aged around 7-9 also went off that bus and walked shockingly fast behind that bus, to cross the road...most likely not considering that there can a car come who will have no chance to hold due to not seeing her. I thought for a split second if I can just grab her on the backpack or if I should just ignore her...cause after all "what is it my business"...well...then I decided I don't care if I might overreact in her view or not and did grab her on the backpack when she was about to cross that road (as in that moment there was no chance to talk to her it had to be taken action fast). And WHUM a car had passed. Which means if I would not have grabbed her she most likely would have been run over by that car who had come at that very same moment...and so I was glad that I did act and not just ignored that risk.... Part of my reaction might have been due to my own car accident at that very same spot aged 8 (though during dark evening time and not related to getting off the bus....I simply believed at that age that I will get to the other end of the road before the car gets to me...which wasn't the case)... Therefore if I see there is a huge risk, then I prefer to make myself potentially to a fool (e. g. as she might have wondered what do I grab her on the backpack if the car wouldn't have come in that very same moment) than to know the rest of my life that I could have prevented it as I knew there was a risk and didn't act. As the saying goes...I think...it takes a village to raise a kid....

tiggerspoohbear -> RE: lost small child (7/10/2011 8:02:50 AM)
I worked in a large retail store years ago, only to have a lost 3 to 4 yr old brought to the customer service desk where I was. Child was hysterical, had lost her mother and was unable to articulate anything at this point. I received permission from management to walk through and look for said mom. 20 minutes later, clear across the mall, here comes mom out having done her grocery shopping without any thought of her daughter. "O guess I wasn't paying attention, I didn't realize she wasn't with me". HUH and WTF????? Police were called in at my insistence and from there Children's Aid was contacted to investigate. Bad neighborhood on one side, no way was I taking a chance with leaving her alone.

slvemike4u -> RE: lost small child (7/10/2011 6:23:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GreedyTop HOLLY! damn, I wish you'd answer your phone sometimes.. I wish I had her number...she is so damm hawt,and the sweetest lady [:)]

GreedyTop -> RE: lost small child (7/10/2011 6:24:55 PM)
neener neener neener!!

slvemike4u -> RE: lost small child (7/10/2011 6:30:51 PM)
Can't help it greedy....I have had a crush on her since I started posting here....lovely picture and a beautiful mind ....a combination that is ,to me,irresistible . Of course I send all appropriate apologies to Jim....it is not nice to covet another man's woman [:)]

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