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IrishThorns -> RE: Spam Filter (7/6/2011 12:17:27 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: myotherself awwww...blushes [:D] I actually met my Master on this site, as well as my (now) best friend and a whole host of other people. Some I contacted because they sounded interesting, so I sent a tailored message to that effect. Some contacted me, and said something sweet or interesting about something I'd mentioned on the message boards or in my profile. One of those was Master. Right from the start I thought to myself he was a nice guy - not pushy, and seemed genuinely interested in ME, not just my 'submissiveness'. We conversed for a while online, and by the time we met in r/l we knew a lot about each other. We met for a 'quick coffee' that took nearly 3 hours in the end, with both of us gabbing nineteen to the dozen [:D] Had he sent me a generic message or shudders a txt-spk spam, I would have deleted the message unread. His little bit of effort resulted in something rather wonderful. It's always good to hear success stories from this site. On the other side, I've met less than a handful of real people. Oh, but the scammers Droves and droves of them. Always friendly, always polite, and always needing money for something. Once I'm satisfied they're scamming, I report them, and then watch them stay on the site, active as ever. I never thought the combination of speed reading and being a good typist would work against me.

LadyPact -> RE: Spam Filter (7/6/2011 12:29:38 AM)
If you met a handful of people in a month (according to your join date) that's actually not that bad. There are a lot of good threads on this site about the best ways to contact those who really do want to meet people. Even some that have statistics on average results from a comparative site. Take a browse through the Positive Experiences forum and you'll see that some folks have great success stories.

WyldHrt -> RE: Spam Filter (7/6/2011 12:40:37 AM)
The spam filter does work. It used to be that as soon as I showed 'online', there would be somewhere between 3 and 10 cmails in 5 minutes, most of which were some variety of 'hi' (nothing else), 'love your eyes', 'nice tits', or everyone's fave, 'On your knees, bitch'. Since the filter, those mails have dropped off dramatically. The nice thing is that it makes the messages from real guys who have read my profile and are interested in who I am much easier to find. BTW, OP, you aren't in trouble. You should see how threads like this go when the OP isn't as polite as you have been. [:D][:D][:D] A word of advice- If you want to avoid the scammer profiles, set your search to a min age of 27 and remove a max weight if you have one set. For some reason, scammers never seem to get older than 26 and never weigh more than 110lbs [;)]

IrishThorns -> RE: Spam Filter (7/6/2011 12:40:38 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact If you met a handful of people in a month (according to your join date) that's actually not that bad. There are a lot of good threads on this site about the best ways to contact those who really do want to meet people. Even some that have statistics on average results from a comparative site. Take a browse through the Positive Experiences forum and you'll see that some folks have great success stories. No doubt, a friend met her (now-ex) fiance here. I met someone at a munch I recognized from here. Another local to me met someone on here (good luck to them!) , and I met someone who is definitely real (and I won't ever speak to again). Of course, that took 16 pages of sent emails to meet 4 (maybe 5) people. I like how a dating site punishes someone for making first contact, something other sites encourage profusely. Part of the problem stems from the fact that when I do a search, I can immediately relegate almost all results as scammers. Back to that 75% percent number, if I want to initiate contact with 5 real people, that's 20+ emails to craft and send.

WyldHrt -> RE: Spam Filter (7/6/2011 12:42:56 AM)
quote: Take a browse through the Positive Experiences forum and you'll see that some folks have great success stories. We know about successful meetings and making new friends, right LP? [:D]

IrishThorns -> RE: Spam Filter (7/6/2011 12:49:20 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WyldHrt The spam filter does work. It used to be that as soon as I showed 'online', there would be somewhere between 3 and 10 cmails in 5 minutes, most of which were some variety of 'hi' (nothing else), 'love your eyes', 'nice tits', or everyone's fave, 'On your knees, bitch'. Since the filter, those mails have dropped off dramatically. The nice thing is that it makes the messages from real guys who have read my profile and are interested in who I am much easier to find. BTW, OP, you aren't in trouble. You should see how threads like this go when the OP isn't as polite as you have been. [:D][:D][:D] A word of advice- If you want to avoid the scammer profiles, set your search to a min age of 27 and remove a max weight if you have one set. For some reason, scammers never seem to get older than 26 and never weigh more than 110lbs [;)] Yes, I'm not in trouble, I'm in 'Timeout'. Given my success with girls my age, I'm about ready to completely abandon looking from 25-35. Which does sound kind of backwards, but once bitten (or twice, or three times)... Anyways, after some experimentation, I found that another account had only been locked out for 4-ish hours (I'm coming up on 10 now), but I've heard as much as two weeks. If it's still locked when I wake up tomorrow, well... we'll see. I have emails I can't respond to, and that's unacceptable. Becasue now the spam filter is preventing real people form talking.

WyldHrt -> RE: Spam Filter (7/6/2011 1:05:23 AM)
quote: Given my success with girls my age, I'm about ready to completely abandon looking from 25-35. Which does sound kind of backwards, but once bitten (or twice, or three times)... Well, there is something to be said for cougars... jus sayin [8D] quote: Anyways, after some experimentation, I found that another account had only been locked out for 4-ish hours (I'm coming up on 10 now), but I've heard as much as two weeks. If it's still locked when I wake up tomorrow, well... we'll see. I have emails I can't respond to, and that's unacceptable. Becasue now the spam filter is preventing real people form talking. I don't know how the spam filter works (sheer number of mails, number of similar mails, number of 'spam' reports, or some combination) but one of the mods will likely post when they see this thread. That said, you can always write support and ask. Anyway, welcome to the boards. A good number of folks actually met their partners right here, and many more of us have made lasting, real life friendships.

IrishThorns -> RE: Spam Filter (7/6/2011 1:11:29 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WyldHrt I don't know how the spam filter works (sheer number of mails, number of similar mails, number of 'spam' reports, or some combination) but one of the mods will likely post when they see this thread. That said, you can always write support and ask. That said, welcome to the boards. A good number of folks actually met their partners right here, and many more of us have made lasting, real life friendships. Thank you for your welcome. I'm sure i can go down to the local Hackerspace and get a reverse engineered analysis of it for next to nothing (those guys really like their challenges). Yes, I've contacted support, after 4 hours was up. I'm not in this for a short term hookup, reason I didn't just go create another account (what's a lost month of 'rep'?) So I hope to make friends, both locally and otherwise.

LadyPact -> RE: Spam Filter (7/6/2011 1:23:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WyldHrt We know about successful meetings and making new friends, right LP? [:D] We certainly do! [:D] Though, I think the thread about that weekend actually got moved from Positive Experiences because the bunch of us ran amok and had one of the longest 'comment' sections going. [8D] quote: ORIGINAL: WyldHrt A good number of folks actually met their partners right here, and many more of us have made lasting, real life friendships. Yep. Ones that some of us wouldn't trade for the world!

WyldHrt -> RE: Spam Filter (7/6/2011 1:31:28 AM)
quote: We certainly do! [:D] Though, I think the thread about that weekend actually got moved from Positive Experiences because the bunch of us ran amok and had one of the longest 'comment' sections going. [8D] Well, there were 'orgy noises', cops and stuff. No wonder the thread went on for pages [:D][:D][:D] quote: Yep. Ones that some of us wouldn't trade for the world! Can I just say... smooch!

VaguelyCurious -> RE: Spam Filter (7/6/2011 2:22:10 AM)
FR I always figure that if someone doesn't have their profile filled out in enough detail for you to send them a personalised message then that's a signal that they don't want your message at all, whether that's because they'd rather do the messaging themselves or because they're not here seriously looking. It's the equivalent of a woman going out of her way not to make eye contact in a bar - if she wanted the CM equivalent of eye contact then she'd have a profile that invited meaningful response. So perhaps that signal ought to be respected, no? That way you won't ever trip the spam filter...

ModTwentyOne -> RE: Spam Filter (7/6/2011 10:51:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LinnaeaBorealis Actually that's not true about the username. I deleted an old account several weeks ago & your statement here made me curious. I just tried to open a new account with that username, all other info different & it said the username was already taken, even though when I searched by that name, it didn't show up at all. There are two possibilities here, the first is that someone else has your old username but their account is hidden. The second possibility is that when you deleted the account it didn't delete completely for some reason and is in limbo. If you want the name back, you can write to support who can check to see if it's available or just in limbo. quote: ORIGINAL: IrishThorns Good to know, I had deleted an account before and it gave me 2 day warning when I tried to re-log in with it. Basically said it wasn't really gone for 48 hours, and I could reactivate. Nice to know they lock names forever. Names are not locked up forever. People who pick up a name that was used previously often want the old forum messages deleted because they didn't make them, but we don't do that. We tell them they can put a disclaimer in their sig line if they want. Mod21

ModTwentyOne -> RE: Spam Filter (7/6/2011 10:54:38 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact Oh, I'm sure the Mods know, but it's so much better than they don't tell. I offered to do naughty things to VideoAdminAlpha if she would tell me, but there really is no reason for me to know, and this way I don't inadvertently give someone information to find a way around the filter. Besides, I'm not sure if Alpha knows, but for naughty things, she might make something up! So I, in good conscience, cannot tempt her that way! Mod21

LadyPact -> RE: Spam Filter (7/6/2011 10:54:52 AM)
Ah, so that makes it more like a forum-type Russian roulette? I can think of a few past posters that nobody would want to be confused with just based on what the other person had posted prior. That could be pretty damn funny!

myotherself -> RE: Spam Filter (7/6/2011 11:38:01 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ModTwentyOne Besides, I'm not sure if Alpha knows, but for naughty things, she might make something up! So I, in good conscience, cannot tempt her that way! Mod21 stands at the head of the queue for VAA's naughty things I sacrifice SO much for you lot on here - I hope you appreciate it! [:D]

IrishThorns -> RE: Spam Filter (7/6/2011 12:50:46 PM)
ModTwentyOne, Thanks for weighing in on those subjects. It's good to know abut name recycling, the lesson there is: If you think you ever might want to come back, don't delete your account, just hide it. As far as inadvertently giving away a bypas for the Spam Filter, I think we've already discussed a very effective one. This might be worthwhile for the Hackerspace guys to look into, you know, after they get back from DEFCON 19.

IrishThorns -> RE: Spam Filter (7/6/2011 1:04:53 PM)
Anyways, for those that keeping track, over 20 hours has passed and I still can't reply to emails I'm receiving. And yes, the support team gets to hear about it every time a milestone is passed and I can't send outgoing mail, even if it is solicited. Time for a second account, as being on a dating site and unable to communicate is fundamentally useless.

LadyPact -> RE: Spam Filter (7/6/2011 1:10:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: IrishThorns As far as inadvertently giving away a bypas for the Spam Filter, I think we've already discussed a very effective one. This might be worthwhile for the Hackerspace guys to look into, you know, after they get back from DEFCON 19. Really a matter of opinion there. I can promise you that since the spam filter came in, I've gotten less spam. Is it perfect? No. There are still people who think that sending ridiculous messages is a good idea, but no where NEAR the amount that used to come in. Next time there's a thread about complaints of WHY women don't answer mail, I hope somebody brings this thread back up to show exactly the types of people that set the environment.

IrishThorns -> RE: Spam Filter (7/6/2011 1:36:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact Really a matter of opinion there. I can promise you that since the spam filter came in, I've gotten less spam. Is it perfect? No. There are still people who think that sending ridiculous messages is a good idea, but no where NEAR the amount that used to come in. Next time there's a thread about complaints of WHY women don't answer mail, I hope somebody brings this thread back up to show exactly the types of people that set the environment. I had chalked up why women don't answer emails to the sheer number of fakes. For every 1 real person I see that is interested in talking, there are 3 or more fakes that want to go get on Yahoo! and try to weasel cash from you. So there's 4 emails, one 'received' by a real person, who may or may not decide to respond (even a no is nice to hear, reinforces that there are real people out there and I'm not wasting my time on bots). Meanwhile, I don't just report empty or short profiles form age 18-26 as scammers without knowing first. Some of the may be legitimate and simply non-verbose. That's what drives those scrawny emails. If each one wrote a masterpiece every time, unique and different from the last in every tangible way, and 3/4s of those fell of fake ears... and the remainder might get read, and of those a few might get responses... I think you see where I'm going with this. Banksy is a great artist, but HallMark makes more money. And let's face the facts... This is a dating site, we are trying to sell ourselves (metaphorically speaking) so that others want to talk to us. Part of that is advertising. If 10 people see your product, and 9 decide not to buy it, you still netted 1 more than no advertising at all. In this case, the product is 'viewing your profile'. If the perfect match to you never gets the opportunity to see you, or even know you existed, then you've done yourself a disservice. If guys knew, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that every email they sent out would be received by a person on this site looking to meet other people, I believe that would drive different a different writing style for first contacts. And ALL first contacts are unsolicited. That's the very nature of sending the first email.

GreedyTop -> RE: Spam Filter (7/6/2011 1:46:28 PM)
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