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Plessy vs Ferguson/Plessy AND Ferguson - 6/7/2011 9:24:21 AM   
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http://beta.news.yahoo.com/plessy-ferguson-descendants-divisive-supreme-court-decision-unite-135502152.html

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RE: Plessy vs Ferguson/Plessy AND Ferguson - 6/8/2011 2:12:38 AM   
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That's kind of cool. I never heard of any of that before. thanks for giving me something to learn. :)

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RE: Plessy vs Ferguson/Plessy AND Ferguson - 6/8/2011 4:30:12 AM   
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I wasn't familiar with the case either, and I thought it was way cool that the descendants are doing this.

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RE: Plessy vs Ferguson/Plessy AND Ferguson - 6/8/2011 6:08:05 AM   
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yet another useless attempt to rewrite history.

Neither of them have anything to do with their ancestors, nor can they change what happened 150 years ago.

If that's the case then I want the Catholic church to give me a couple of Million dollars, every year for the rest of my life, WHY? Because during the protestant reformation, the church declared my ancestors to be Heretics. Took all their land, all their cattle, their vineyard, their possessions etc. Burned one member of my family alive, flayed another alive, put another member on trial before the inquisitors and declared her to be demon possessed.

But you say, that wasn't you, you weren't responsible for their lives, the catholic church has done you no wrong. True it hasn't. However all of these people that go around trying to change what happened a hundred years ago, are doing the same thing they are trying to involve themselves in something that is over and done with and should be left alone.

I am sure that you may have heard of Emmet Till. Till was beaten and killed by the klan. They let his killers go free, then they retried them found them guilty and sentenced them to jail. Now in 2009 the government decided to reopen the case to see if there was someone else that could be tried.

Please tell me what in hell purpose it serves to try to track down some 80 or 90 year old man or men for a crime they committed back in 1955. 56 years ago.

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RE: Plessy vs Ferguson/Plessy AND Ferguson - 6/8/2011 6:24:53 AM   
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There's no statute of limitations on murder. The fact that the guy is 80 or 90 really makes no difference, he should be tried, and if found guilty go to jail. It serves the same purpose as doing it to a 25 year old for something he did in January 2011.

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RE: Plessy vs Ferguson/Plessy AND Ferguson - 6/8/2011 2:55:56 PM   
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quote:

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yet another useless attempt to rewrite history.

Neither of them have anything to do with their ancestors, nor can they change what happened 150 years ago.

If that's the case then I want the Catholic church to give me a couple of Million dollars, every year for the rest of my life, WHY? Because during the protestant reformation, the church declared my ancestors to be Heretics. Took all their land, all their cattle, their vineyard, their possessions etc. Burned one member of my family alive, flayed another alive, put another member on trial before the inquisitors and declared her to be demon possessed.

But you say, that wasn't you, you weren't responsible for their lives, the catholic church has done you no wrong. True it hasn't. However all of these people that go around trying to change what happened a hundred years ago, are doing the same thing they are trying to involve themselves in something that is over and done with and should be left alone.

I am sure that you may have heard of Emmet Till. Till was beaten and killed by the klan. They let his killers go free, then they retried them found them guilty and sentenced them to jail. Now in 2009 the government decided to reopen the case to see if there was someone else that could be tried.

Please tell me what in hell purpose it serves to try to track down some 80 or 90 year old man or men for a crime they committed back in 1955. 56 years ago.



The intention of dealing with a crime by way of some sort of consequence is, if properly rendered, for purpose of a society's statement of what they accept and what they do not.

No argument from me, various notions of 'punishment' and ill-defined 'deterrence' complicate the affair, and certainly not for the actual benefit to society in many cases.


Regarding religious persecution, your understanding is that Catholics initiated all of that? That there were no murders by Lutherans/Protestants, or that the initial land grabs and mass confiscation of property didn't actually start with the aforementioned? Tell the ghosts of the girls who were strung up by the ankles and slowly dipped into the lake until drowned in MA about that. Hint: the persecutors weren't Catholic. Some sizable contingent of the earliest settlers to what is now the US came here to escape the religious persecution of not being allowed to practice their own particular brand of religious persecution.

European history. Any history. Have at it.







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RE: Plessy vs Ferguson/Plessy AND Ferguson - 6/8/2011 2:59:58 PM   
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BTW, thanks Greeedy-T.

I don't wish to purposelessly dredge up past ill's of society either, but this story I would definitely put into the 'moving forward' category.







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