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RE: How to let your partner pass out safely? - 5/27/2011 6:08:34 PM   
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call me old fashioned, but....

1 oz Bacardi® 151 rum
2 oz pineapple juice
2 oz orange juice
1 oz apricot brandy
2 tsp sugar
4 oz light rum
2 oz dark rum
2 oz lime juice

Repeat as required

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RE: How to let your partner pass out safely? - 5/27/2011 9:39:51 PM   
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Thanks for the answers ^^
I was already afraid there wasnt a safe option.

Except for the answer of RedMagic1  (And yeh it works.. but thats sleep not pass out.)
And yes 30min max is optional, but I prefer to get my sub awake as soon as possible when I am done tying her up ^^


And about that school thing, I am aware they learn 6 years for this to be done safely. But there must a be a less riskier thing then Chloroform or choking ^^


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RE: How to let your partner pass out safely? - 5/27/2011 10:55:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		  Some people have mentioned hypnosis, which is kind of redundant because sub-space is essentially a trance state.   The problem is that while trance states have the focused attention and diminished awareness you want, you're not going to deprive someone of their senses unless you simply relax them until they sleep.

I'd say trance states combined with sensory deprivation are your best option.  Blindfold, ear-plugs (or an IPod with a trance induction playing) and a warm comfortable room temperature and environment are your best bets.   Dom her into subspace, blindfold her and get to it.


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RE: How to let your partner pass out safely? - 5/28/2011 12:18:21 AM   
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Oh wait, that would be longer than 30 minutes. /* Scrap this idea */

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RE: How to let your partner pass out safely? - 5/28/2011 12:34:58 AM   
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Sure there is...it's called I'm the Domme SIT, STAY!!
Wondering why the need to be unconscious so you can tie? Half the fun is the look of fear and passion in the eyes as a series of restraints are applied.
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ORIGINAL: firefinal

Thanks for the answers ^^
I was already afraid there wasnt a safe option.

Except for the answer of RedMagic1  (And yeh it works.. but thats sleep not pass out.)
And yes 30min max is optional, but I prefer to get my sub awake as soon as possible when I am done tying her up ^^


And about that school thing, I am aware they learn 6 years for this to be done safely. But there must a be a less riskier thing then Chloroform or choking ^^


Sure there is...it's called I'm the Domme SIT, STAY!!
Wondering why the need to be unconscious so you can tie? Half the fun is the look of fear and passion in the eyes as a series of restraints are applied.


She loves to be abducted ^^ So she wants to try this out ;) Its just another kink hehe ^^

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RE: How to let your partner pass out safely? - 5/28/2011 4:14:20 AM   
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RE: How to let your partner pass out safely? - 5/28/2011 6:15:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		wait till shes in deep sleep not rem it may work if your gentle enough and shes a heavy sleeper but it means you staying up most of the night. have everything ready if youuse velcro and its already attatched to the bed it will be fast

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RE: How to let your partner pass out safely? - 5/29/2011 3:58:34 AM   
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Make them read an entire thread down in P+R?

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RE: How to let your partner pass out safely? - 5/29/2011 5:10:38 AM   
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RE: How to let your partner pass out safely? - 5/29/2011 6:14:39 AM   
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You could look into hypnosis. It's not my thing, but my understanding is that someone who responds well to it could be put into an extremely pliable state, even made borderline catatonic, and woken up when you're ready without any lasting harm.

This is the kind of thing that begs for roleplay, too. Put a little water on a rag, clap it over her mouth...it isn't hard to be dead weight while someone undresses you.



That's an option I've fantasized about, myself, is the hypnosis option. 

I've imagined a scenario in which a hypnotist implants a suggestion along the lines that a rag soaked in, say, lemon juice, will work like "Hollywood chloroform":  The "victim" will struggle (futilely) for 15-30 seconds, then get weak, then collapse to the floor (gently, to avoid bruises).  He'll then lay there, limp, for five minutes or so.  Then he'll begin making a few feeble, random, motions, to warn the "attacker" that it's starting to wear off.  After a minute or two of this, then he will "wake up", a bit disoriented, and begin struggling.  One minute after that, he will be fully recovered, with no drug after effects. 

To me, something like that could be done with hypnosis, because the sub is literally "acting a role".  The "drug" produces no "hangover" because the "script" says so. 

The hypnosis can do other things, too.  Like implant a "backstory", a set of things that happened "before the camera started".  I would think that a hypnotist could do things like causing you to not remember consenting, for example.  (Although I could see that being dangerous, maybe.) 

Freely admitting, I'm nowhere near an expert on the subject.  But it seems to me that all hypnosis is, is role playing, where the role player is really, really, "into character". Deep down, the hypnotic subject knows it's all pretend.  He just goes along with it because it's fun. 


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RE: How to let your partner pass out safely? - 5/29/2011 6:19:39 AM   
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Thnx  ParappaTheDapper

Well the thing is she knows all about the risks and wants me to try it out on her.
But I refused since I wanted to know a safer risk. I am not going to risk the life of her for something like this.

Guess there is really no safe way ^^ So she has bad luck then and will have to find another thrill


A further observation, kind of an analogy. 

I've read that the people who die doing breath play aren't the newbies.  It's the people who have experience. 

Seems that the people who are into that sort of thing, tend to assume after they've done it several times, that "we know what we're doing".  They think they've got it figured out. 

But, they keep pushing things just a little further, each time.  And, after they've been doing it for a few years, they "roll a 20", or they cross a line that they didn't even know they were pushing. 

You go there, you're venturing into a mine field.  And even the people who've been in the mine field for years, don't know where the mines are. 


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RE: How to let your partner pass out safely? - 5/29/2011 6:22:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		Actually not. You can press on the carotid artery 20 times and have no problem. But the risk is the same each time of death resulting. It's like tossing a coin. You might get heads 20 times in a row but eventually tails will come up. Same here.

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RE: How to let your partner pass out safely? - 5/29/2011 6:28:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		I understand your g/f has an abduction fantasy she wants you to play out. An essential component of this fantasy is that she wants to be passed out and wake up to being restrained and at some strange rapists mercy. Got that, it's a rather common fantasy.

Either get her when she really is asleep (as has been suggested), or role play the passed out part in some way (possibly with a combo of hypnosis and sensory deprivation).

There is no "safe" way of causing someone to pass out. This is doubly true for "pass out long enough to tie them up."

That's great you want to make your g/f's fantasy a reality, but too much reality can cause brain damage and kill you.


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RE: How to let your partner pass out safely? - 5/29/2011 6:29:16 AM   
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Alright lately I have been discussing about passing out before the bondage.

The idea is that you let your partner pass out safely and in the time they are passed out you can just tie them up or get them naked and ready.

But.. what tools can be used for this.
Choking is VERY risky since cutting of blood supply is a major risk.
Chloroform isnt easy to use and the difference between a good and lethal injection are SMALL.

So any options that work better? :)
Only has to work for like 2min to max 30min.

Let me know ^^


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RE: How to let your partner pass out safely? - 5/29/2011 9:04:40 AM   
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Have your partner eat a big meal and put them to bed.

Serious answer.



Maybe talking to them? I used to have a professor who could have anybody comatose within 5 minutes

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RE: How to let your partner pass out safely? - 5/29/2011 9:05:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		Then that was a very boring professor :) But yeh i know how that feels, since i got some as well on my colleges ^^

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RE: How to let your partner pass out safely? - 5/29/2011 9:11:48 AM   
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Chloroform isnt easy to use and the difference between a good and lethal injection are SMALL.


and

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to max 30min.


Fairly screams - serial rapist in training.


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RE: How to let your partner pass out safely? - 5/29/2011 9:12:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		If she doesn't mind a headache and is otherwise very healthy (and yes, you want a doc to check this out, find a kink friendly one because I doubt you have a fetish for real jail time) try poppers, they tend to make women very dizzy, it won't knock her out but while she is dizzy you snap restrains on and a hood and this should play into the abduction fantasy, it's up to you to set the stage right. I'm not a friend of poppers and don't know how legal they are where you are, so treat that suggestion with care and definitely discuss it with a kink friendly doc who gave her an MOT first!

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RE: How to let your partner pass out safely? - 5/29/2011 9:45:39 AM   
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I confess that I did the same silly shit in my 20s, only it was anesthesia for mock surgery when I commandeered the family clinic for personal play on the weekend.  In passing, I will mention that I used to use Trilene Gas which is an anesthetic.  It comes in a canister with a small mask and is designed for self administration.  There is a "dead man's switch" type of button so when the patient goes to sleep, the gas stops.  It's a medical supply, so I don't know if you will have access to it but it's safer than chloroform.  




Could you maybe add a picture to give me a better impression what this is? :)
This seems quite safe compared to the others.

I didn't take any pictures of the weekend medical scenes . . . except with an ultrasound machine and that was a picture of my cock deep inside someone. 


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RE: How to let your partner pass out safely? - 5/29/2011 10:36:22 AM   
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ORIGINAL: theRose4U

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ORIGINAL: firefinal

Thanks for the answers ^^
I was already afraid there wasnt a safe option.

Except for the answer of RedMagic1  (And yeh it works.. but thats sleep not pass out.)
And yes 30min max is optional, but I prefer to get my sub awake as soon as possible when I am done tying her up ^^


And about that school thing, I am aware they learn 6 years for this to be done safely. But there must a be a less riskier thing then Chloroform or choking ^^




^^
Sure there is...it's called I'm the Domme SIT, STAY!!
Wondering why the need to be unconscious so you can tie? Half the fun is the look of fear and passion in the eyes as a series of restraints are applied.


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