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Ron Paul wouldn`t have ordered bin-gotten raid - 5/12/2011 7:20:10 PM   
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http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2011/05/ron-paul-says-wouldnt-ordered-bin-laden-raid/37635/

Ron Paul Says He Wouldn't Have Ordered Bin Laden Raid

Well here's a great way to kickoff your 2012 presidential campaign. Adding to the list of stances that make Ron Paul both iconoclastic and unelectable, the Texas congressman said he would not have authorized the raid on Osama bin Laden. The unpopular stance was voiced on the heels of his bid to run for the White House, which Politico reports will be announced tomorrow. In an interview with Iowa radio station WHO, the likely GOP presidential candidate said "things could have been done somewhat differently."

"I don't think it was necessary, no. It absolutely was not necessary," he said, citing the rules of international law regarding respect for national sovereignty. "I would suggest the way they got Khalid [Sheikh] Mohammed. We went and cooperated with Pakistan. They arrested him, actually, and turned him over to us, and he's been in prison. Why can't we work with the government?"


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RE: Ron Paul wouldn`t have ordered bin-gotten raid - 5/12/2011 7:21:34 PM   
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RE: Ron Paul wouldn`t have ordered bin-gotten raid - 5/12/2011 7:23:50 PM   
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RE: Ron Paul wouldn`t have ordered bin-gotten raid - 5/12/2011 7:23:53 PM   
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Yeah...he`s perfect.....


stay on topic

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RE: Ron Paul wouldn`t have ordered bin-gotten raid - 5/12/2011 7:26:41 PM   
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Didnt the Dems once oppose military action in sovereign lands without diplomacy, search warrants or Miranda warnings, shooting people in the face without a trial, all that

Called the people who did anything even remotely resembling that war criminals and the like



Oh but now Obamas a great war hero for doing ALL of that...

Not that I oppose killing bin Laden, but the hypocrisy is just way overripe

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RE: Ron Paul wouldn`t have ordered bin-gotten raid - 5/12/2011 7:27:23 PM   
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RE: Ron Paul wouldn`t have ordered bin-gotten raid - 5/12/2011 7:27:26 PM   
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RE: Ron Paul wouldn`t have ordered bin-gotten raid - 5/12/2011 7:28:29 PM   
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RE: Ron Paul wouldn`t have ordered bin-gotten raid - 5/12/2011 7:30:08 PM   
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RE: Ron Paul wouldn`t have ordered bin-gotten raid - 5/12/2011 7:31:05 PM   
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I don't believe owner59 is saying he is right or wrong...just what a terrible decision it was to say it. It shows to me he is not very bright or politically savvy...Is this the person we need to run this country? Surely there are smarter Republican candidates then him.

Palin...Trump...Ron Paul...damn are they trying to lose?

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RE: Ron Paul wouldn`t have ordered bin-gotten raid - 5/12/2011 7:39:27 PM   
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Didnt the Dems once oppose military action in sovereign lands without diplomacy, search warrants or Miranda warnings, shooting people in the face without a trial, all that

Called the people who did anything even remotely resembling that war criminals and the like



Oh but now Obamas a great war hero for doing ALL of that...

Not that I oppose killing bin Laden, but the hypocrisy is just way overripe

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He also would not have spent 6 trillion on 3 wars,   and 8 trillion on bail outs. 


Thank God I'm not a Dem. I just think the FarRight is a bunch of dumbasses.

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RE: Ron Paul wouldn`t have ordered bin-gotten raid - 5/12/2011 7:45:09 PM   
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Isnt saying hes not politically savvy another way of saying he is consistent

He has always had the same views, and I honestly cant fault him for that. He opposed Iraq, Afghanistan, and so on... I dont agree with him on everything but I do respect him

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I don't believe owner59 is saying he is right or wrong...just what a terrible decision it was to say it. It shows to me he is not very bright or politically savvy...Is this the person we need to run this country? Surely there are smarter Republican candidates then him.

Palin...Trump...Ron Paul...damn are they trying to lose?

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RE: Ron Paul wouldn`t have ordered bin-gotten raid - 5/12/2011 8:01:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		I agree with you on sticking to his guns and being up front and consistent... It is refreshing… but that will not make him a good leader.

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RE: Ron Paul wouldn`t have ordered bin-gotten raid - 5/12/2011 8:09:30 PM   
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I agree with you on sticking to his guns and being up front and consistent... It is refreshing… but that will not make him a good leader.

This is what we've come to?

K.

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RE: Ron Paul wouldn`t have ordered bin-gotten raid - 5/12/2011 8:23:40 PM   
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I agree with you on sticking to his guns and being up front and consistent... It is refreshing… but that will not make him a good leader.

Butch


Yeah, I like him too and I think he'd make a good president.
Of course Sara Palin would be a step or two up compared to what we have now.

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RE: Ron Paul wouldn`t have ordered bin-gotten raid - 5/12/2011 9:00:59 PM   
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Ron Paul does not consider an election a fucking popularity contest. He doesn't buy votes and he doesn't lie.

You people don't want him, so don't come crying to me when you get what you "want".

Social fucking programs. You people couldn't handle true freedom if it was handed to you on a silver platter. You want to fight for supremacy, for resources. You want to stamp out all opposition in the world for your gasoline. You support illegal fucking wars to that end and I am pleased as punch that you are getting fucked up the ass by the people you trust.

Enjoy your fucking ipads for lunch. Know what else, I got a new song for my rip list : The theme song from the movie "Hardware". The words go "this is what you want, this is what you get".

One other thing, I'm glad the OBL is dead (if he is) because he cooperated with these fucking scumbags in the begining. Saddam is better off dead for the same reason. Not for what they may have done later, but because they took the money, they took the politcal connections to their own benefit. Fuck them and the fucking empty suit US, UK and Israeli politicians they fucking rode in on. If they had a backbone half of this shit would never have happened. They are just as bad.

They put a $25 million bounty on OBL's head and nobody took the money. You put half that up of almost any politician's head feeding at our trough and I'll certainly see what I can do.

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RE: Ron Paul wouldn`t have ordered bin-gotten raid - 5/12/2011 9:02:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think the relevant question is would you select the killing of Osama as a priority or the surety that we would not enter unnecessary wars.

My priority is the latter.

If the republicans want the former they will get that, but unfortunately that comes coupled with a whole lotta war loving rhetoric attached.

The choice is provided though, generally the peaceful select peace, so it should not be surprising that a peaceful man would not select to invade a foreign nations air space to assassinate someone on what was reported to be a 50/50 chance Osama would have been there and thus risk an escalation of conflict in a country that is a reluctant ally to begin with.

So, I don't have a problem with it given the alternatives.

I think enough blood has been spilled to pay for 9.11, risking more is not my preference.

But do I mourn for Osama's death, nope, but I do for the 10's of thousands killed in the meantime, and those that continue to be killed.





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RE: Ron Paul wouldn`t have ordered bin-gotten raid - 5/12/2011 9:14:38 PM   
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Ron Paul does not consider an election a fucking popularity contest. He doesn't buy votes and he doesn't lie.

You people don't want him, so don't come crying to me when you get what you "want".

Social fucking programs. You people couldn't handle true freedom if it was handed to you on a silver platter. You want to fight for supremacy, for resources. You want to stamp out all opposition in the world for your gasoline. You support illegal fucking wars to that end and I am pleased as punch that you are getting fucked up the ass by the people you trust.

Enjoy your fucking ipads for lunch. Know what else, I got a new song for my rip list : The theme song from the movie "Hardware". The words go "this is what you want, this is what you get".

One other thing, I'm glad the OBL is dead (if he is) because he cooperated with these fucking scumbags in the begining. Saddam is better off dead for the same reason. Not for what they may have done later, but because they took the money, they took the politcal connections to their own benefit. Fuck them and the fucking empty suit US, UK and Israeli politicians they fucking rode in on. If they had a backbone half of this shit would never have happened. They are just as bad.

They put a $25 million bounty on OBL's head and nobody took the money. You put half that up of almost any politician's head feeding at our trough and I'll certainly see what I can do.

T^T



Some of what you said is true. However, what good would taking out a politician do, besides eliminating a tiny symptom of the underlying cause and temporarily stroking your own ego?

The cause is systemic. As long as we have a system which rewards the taking advantage of others, there's no hope for real change.

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RE: Ron Paul wouldn`t have ordered bin-gotten raid - 5/12/2011 9:20:56 PM   
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RE: Ron Paul wouldn`t have ordered bin-gotten raid - 5/12/2011 11:41:58 PM   
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And, he wouldn't spend a dime on any social program.





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