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Objectification? - 4/23/2011 2:16:02 AM

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It took me the longest time to figure out that I like this (or something like it) since I always thought of objectification as being like a footstool, or a piece of furniture. For me it's more sexual. I guess what I really like is not so much being an inanimate object, but a 'thing' - something less than human, that is there to be used and abused.

I love it when my Owner tells me to stay still and be quiet when he's using me, or to hold my legs open wider. I love the depersonalisation of it. Or if he is flogging or caning me, he will shush me if I cry out and tell me I am just a paintoy to be hurt for his pleasure. When successful, I actually stop thinking of myself as a person, and sort of objectify myself as something to be fucked, hurt, cum in, etc. rather than a person with feelings or conscious thoughts. He then reinforces this by calling me objectifying names like fucktoy / cumslut which seem to push me deeper into that mental state.

Apologies for the graphic descriptions but it's a very sexual kink for me, and not something I can describe otherwise, I never feel like this when we're not playing or having sex - I'm definitely 'human' when I'm doing the washing up, or hoovering lol,

Does this ring true with anything you have experienced? Do you have a better word or description for it than objectification? (Since really, it's not the feeling of being an object, and I don't want to get it confused with people who genuinely do enjoy roleplaying as an object) or do you just have any experiences to share to help give a better picture of it?

I know it's a bit confused, but it's definitely something real because when I try to talk about it, in my confused way, other submissives will say 'I love that!' and then give me examples which hit the nail on the head 100%, so I know it's part of a shared kink that other people seem to get, but is as yet not really named or talked about. There is some crossover with dollification, where the submissive roleplays as a doll, and is used as an inanimate object, but in my fantasy I'm definitely real, living and breathing, even though I'm trying to suppress my human responses, such as making noise, moving, reacting, etc.

Is there a proper term for this? Or anyone else who can shed some light on this kink?

Many thanks.

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RE: Objectification? - 4/23/2011 5:22:03 AM

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Yep, I think you've pretty much got the gist of objectification....

I use the term "meat". IE, for the purposes of objectification, the girl is nothing more than compliant meat whose only purpose or role is to make her body available for whatever my whim is.

I will say that the only objectification I practise is with *my* girl; the one I otherwise care for and love as a person in general. That my objectification is a specific dynamic within a greater personal relationship, as opposed to the rude arseholes who treat all subs as just meat.

It's a bit like the difference (in vanilla terms) of the couple in love and wanting to share their lives as opposed to the (objectified) couple engaging in a one night stand. Within D/s, I utilise both dynamics - the treasured partner I make love to and/or the girl-meat I just fuck.

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RE: Objectification? - 4/23/2011 5:59:35 AM

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It's a big thing with us. We both enjoy it very much and I think objectification is definitely the word that covers it.

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RE: Objectification? - 4/23/2011 6:40:37 AM

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I tend to think of it as just being used. I view objectification more as being a footstool and so on. We're not into pain but him just deciding he wants me sexually is incredibly hot. Being pushed down and taken, having him just grab my hair while he uses my mouth. For me, it's knowing this very patient, very self controlled man just is overpowered by his need to have me is what does it for me.

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RE: Objectification? - 4/23/2011 6:47:47 AM

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I am all about objectification. And why not?
She's a slave, a piece of fuckmeat for me to do as I desire. Her sole purpose in my life is to serve, please and obey.
And, evil bastard that I am, I take things that way and then runrunrun with them!
I don't do the furniture thing much (Though a slave footrest is a wonderful thing on occasion), but there are lots of ways to do objectification that don't include such acts, including joyous things like using her as an ashtray, a toilet, a plate, a torture toy, a pin cushion and of course, that wonderful old standby, a cumdumpster.
And that's just for starters. Then you can get way in her head, start stripping away that thin veil of civilization (ala a BDSM version of Lord of the Flies(And hey, that would be a good subtitle for moi-hint!)), and begin the lovely lovely process of reducing her to nothing but a quivering piece of fuckmeat, with her synapses hardwired right to her sopping wet, sewed shut cunt.
That's when the real evil shit begins.....

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RE: Objectification? - 4/23/2011 6:50:11 AM

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Hmm. Not my Scene.

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RE: Objectification? - 4/23/2011 7:01:17 AM

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I agree that this behaviour can be incredibly sexy. I guess, like you, i always thought of objectification as more inanimate belongings. What you describe i always thought of as more degradation play which perhaps it is and objectification is just one branch of that tree. Hmm interesting.

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RE: Objectification? - 4/23/2011 7:02:02 AM

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What Des said

Being used whenever he feels like using me, then getting a quick kiss on the forehead or a pat on the butt and being told 'good girl, now get on with whatever you were doing'. Hot is an understatement!

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RE: Objectification? - 4/23/2011 8:10:31 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kana

She's a slave, a piece of fuckmeat for me to do as I desire. Her sole purpose in my life is to serve, please and obey.
And, evil bastard that I am, I take things that way and then runrunrun with them!

When you hear the words... "sole purpose" you know the night is going to take an interesting turn.

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but there are lots of ways to do objectification that don't include such acts, including joyous things like using her as an ashtray, a toilet, a plate, a torture toy, a pin cushion and of course, that wonderful old standby, a cumdumpster.

So much for my respectability.

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And that's just for starters. Then you can get way in her head, start stripping away that thin veil of civilization (ala a BDSM version of Lord of the Flies(And hey, that would be a good subtitle for moi-hint!)), and begin the lovely lovely process of reducing her to nothing but a quivering piece of fuckmeat, with her synapses hardwired right to her sopping wet, sewed shut cunt. That's when the real evil shit begins.....

You had me until you decided to play 'sew perfect'. If i could skip that part and vault towards the reduction where the real fun begins i'd be game. It is the goal after all.

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RE: Objectification? - 4/23/2011 8:33:29 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kana
I don't do the furniture thing much (Though a slave footrest is a wonderful thing on occasion), but there are lots of ways to do objectification that don't include such acts, including joyous things like using her as an ashtray, a toilet, a plate, a torture toy, a pin cushion...

I suppose that would be objectification proper - i.e. acting like or being used as an object. Whereas for me, it is not about being an object, more about being deprived of my human responses. This is why it's so confusing to call it objectification, as I've no interest in being an ashtray or a toilet, but I definitely do want to be something less than human and denied my own subjectivity

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RE: Objectification? - 4/23/2011 8:42:03 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: OwnedFemaleFlesh
It took me the longest time to figure out that I like this (or something like it) since I always thought of objectification as being like a footstool, or a piece of furniture. For me it's more sexual. I guess what I really like is not so much being an inanimate object, but a 'thing' - something less than human, that is there to be used and abused.

Nice description - you don't sound confused about it at all! I reckon it is a sort of variation on the theme of degradation where the purpose is to be objectified - a sex object. I wonder if this is a fantasy especially for women due to all the talk over the years by feminists about horrible "men" objectifying women? lol

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RE: Objectification? - 4/23/2011 8:49:42 AM

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For me it is the moment when he has completely broken you down, stripped you of everything...

you have no thought, no feelings... you are just whatever he has made you into... that is heaven... the journey down, the feelings that you struggle with as you let them go...

to become almost empty... a shell...

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RE: Objectification? - 4/23/2011 9:46:19 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: WantsOfTheFlesh
I reckon it is a sort of variation on the theme of degradation where the purpose is to be objectified - a sex object. I wonder if this is a fantasy especially for women due to all the talk over the years by feminists about horrible "men" objectifying women? lol

A sex object, exactly! Well, a pain and sex object anyway ;-)

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RE: Objectification? - 4/23/2011 11:38:05 AM

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sewed shut cunt.

Eeeeeeeeeeek!!!! <Runs as far and fast as she can hoping he's out of shape and can't catch up>

Actually I agree with the OP and with many of the posters. To me objectification in terms of being a footstool gets boring, I mean I'm just kneeling there with my mind wandering, I usually notice tiny bits of dirt that need cleaning, and then all i want to do is get the bucket and sponge and deal with it.

But the sexual objectification, that is where it's at! I not only don't enjoy a lot of the things Hanners does to me, I actively hate them. But the idea that that just doesn't matter, that my enjoyment is simply not an issue, that my body is simply something for her use and enjoyment, that is erotic in the extreme to me.

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RE: Objectification? - 4/26/2011 11:35:28 AM

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I enjoy the same thing with my Master. Usually in the morning when I wake Him up by crawling naked into bed with Him. I simply curl up to Him and wait to be used. I absolutely feel like an object, something owned and controlled solely for Master's pleasure. He is still half asleep and will automatically with no thought at all for my comfort or enjoyment move me how He wants me, use any part of my body He desires as roughly as it pleases Him and if I do approach climax (which is rare) I am very infrequently given permission to cum. I am only a toy to please Master. He is generally rougher and much more controlling in the morning too, biting me until I am bruised, or squeezing my throat until I can only gasp irregular breaths while struggling. It's my favorite time with Master, He is so in the moment and so focused on simply enjoying His toy. It makes me feel valued and appreciated for what I offer Him. I think objectification is a good term for it although it is definitely different than serving as a footstool (which I do in the evenings) but there are similarities for me in how both actions make me feel. Used, valued, less than human but yet cherished as important property.

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RE: Objectification? - 4/26/2011 12:43:48 PM

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I don't have relationships with cumsluts.

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RE: Objectification? - 4/26/2011 1:27:33 PM

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I'm with you on all counts. I like "using" Carol with [apparent] disregard for her thoughts and feelings. Like you, I don't really see that as "objectification". I'm not seeing her as an object or even "less than human". I'm simply seeing her as my human property... aka: "slave". I don't think she sees herself during these times as a "thing". I think she see's herself as a human who happens to belong to another human who is using his property as he sees fit.

In my own head, I've often wondered if people go the "thing" route only because they can't really see a human in this way. So by turning the human into a "thing" in their own heads, then it gives some sort of permission.

But aside from all the taxonomic hair-splitting, in the end "Yeah we do that and yeah I like it." Carol likes it a lot less unless she's already turned on in which case it works for her quite well.

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RE: Objectification? - 4/26/2011 2:56:01 PM

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I'm with you on all counts. I like "using" Carol with [apparent] disregard for her thoughts and feelings. Like you, I don't really see that as "objectification". I'm not seeing her as an object or even "less than human". I'm simply seeing her as my human property... aka: "slave". I don't think she sees herself during these times as a "thing". I think she see's herself as a human who happens to belong to another human who is using his property as he sees fit.

In my own head, I've often wondered if people go the "thing" route only because they can't really see a human in this way. So by turning the human into a "thing" in their own heads, then it gives some sort of permission.

But aside from all the taxonomic hair-splitting, in the end "Yeah we do that and yeah I like it." Carol likes it a lot less unless she's already turned on in which case it works for her quite well.

Crikey, no-one is talking about literally reducing a person to an "object" status...!

Fact is, humans do have thoughts and feelings. If you're "..."using" Carol with [apparent] disregard for her thoughts and feelings", then you're objectifying her - within a greater caring relationship.

Objectification is the kind of thing women complain about in the work force and probably where the term originated. That they weren't being recognised for their knowledge or skill but ignored and diminished for their gender.

Is it bad or unhealthy in bdsm? Yes, if it's the basis of the entire relationship and absolutely NO if it's a specific dynamic within it - as you've described yours.

It's a simple concept and I fail to see how reducing all the colours of the rainbow to the boring biege of semantics aids the discussion - any discussion!

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RE: Objectification? - 4/26/2011 3:00:15 PM

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Not only will I pass on the sewed shut bit, but I wonder how many others wouldn't be able to take the ashtray part either. Not just the burning, but for him to put a cigarette out on me, he would first have to smoke it. And I'm so damned allergic to cigarette smoke it isn't funny.

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RE: Objectification? - 4/26/2011 5:10:55 PM

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ORIGINAL: Focus50
Crikey, no-one is talking about literally reducing a person to an "object" status...!

Yeah well, I suffer from this all the time because I don't really have a fantasy life so I interpret phrases to mean "really in the real world".

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It's a simple concept and I fail to see how reducing all the colours of the rainbow to the boring biege of semantics aids the discussion - any discussion!

OK, I'll show my work. You'll note that in all 2 gajillion postings I've never brought up this bit of semantics. But in this post I did. Why? Because the OP had the exact same semantic problem.

since I always thought of objectification as being like a footstool, or a piece of furniture. For me it's more sexual. I guess what I really like is not so much being an inanimate object, but a 'thing' - something less than human, that is there to be used and abused.

So I noted that I enjoy the things she mentioned and I also saw the disconnect between the word "objectification" and those activities.

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