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mnottertail -> RE: Sen. John Ensign resigns (4/22/2011 7:01:10 AM)

Sadly, although he had wanted to take his family (sort of a family values thing) to colonial Williamsburg (as opposed to going by himself 'hiking in the appalachians') the nation's business came first and he sat out some political theater instead.




tazzygirl -> RE: Sen. John Ensign resigns (4/22/2011 7:01:26 AM)

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TAZ you devil


NOW you are getting it [;)]




Sanity -> RE: Sen. John Ensign resigns (4/22/2011 7:02:36 AM)


Your own words Steven:

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven
Glad to hear that there was no media coverage of Chappaquiddick, Rangel, Waters, Lewinsky, etc., etc., etc.

Seriously, Sanity, the comment about how their side is worse than our side gets old.  Except I have to admit that it adds some piquancy when the party of championing family values gets caught with its pants down.



The whole party must be judged by a different standard. Pull your head out of you rass, because you should realize how thats utter bullshit...





DarkSteven -> RE: Sen. John Ensign resigns (4/22/2011 7:04:49 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Thats bullshit Steven, and you know it.

At least you should, they barely touched those guys. Rangel was easily reelected, and everyones heard all about this, right -

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Not at all bullshit, and I do believe what I post.  Just read my words and quit trying to twist them.  If you're unable to attack them as written, that's not my fault.

Rangel was reelected after the people decided to give him another term.  The media's responsibility was to report what happened, and they did.

It seems like your basic claim is that each Rep who sins is given way more coverage then Dems who do it, and I'm disagreeing with you.  Plain and simple.  You have tried to misinterpret my words, you've made unsupported statements, and you're accused me of being dishonest.

Instead of that, just stick to the issues and show me some facts, and I'll be willing to listenb to you.







tazzygirl -> RE: Sen. John Ensign resigns (4/22/2011 7:05:00 AM)

I am judging the individuals by the standards they stated they represent.




Sanity -> RE: Sen. John Ensign resigns (4/22/2011 7:07:50 AM)


And what of Pelosis lofty promises about ethics and openness which were utterly disregarded?

Thats hypocrisy you can happily live with?

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

I am judging the individuals by the standards they stated they represent.




mnottertail -> RE: Sen. John Ensign resigns (4/22/2011 7:10:00 AM)

But Tom, that's from Breitbart less than two weeks ago.  How is it that it ain't still all over the net?  Cuz it is.   There is absolutely no evidence that 'The Hiker' is being splashed about the news as he is making it any more or any less than any other fuckwad who does same.




tazzygirl -> RE: Sen. John Ensign resigns (4/22/2011 7:11:09 AM)

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And what of Pelosis lofty promises about ethics and openness which were utterly disregarded?

Thats hypocrisy you can happily live with?


Nope. And I notice the Republicans are doing all they can to bring her up on charges. Arent they?




Sanity -> RE: Sen. John Ensign resigns (4/22/2011 7:20:53 AM)


Yes Steven, I am representing that especially in the traditional media there are two sets of standards for the political parties but you have to be of an open mind to see the truth for yourself.

Its very blatant and hard to miss if you are willing to even consider the possibility, and it has nothing to do with family values. Its about destroying the messenger.




Owner59 -> RE: Sen. John Ensign resigns (4/22/2011 7:29:46 AM)


Oh god.....cry me a river while I play for you.....


[sm=boohoo.gif]

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

I used to work in defense.  At one point, I had a high level security clearance that involved going over my life for the past fifteen years.  Where I'd lived, where I'd worked, etc.  The idea was to verify that I had no past excessive use of drugs or alcohol, or excessive spending.  Anything to make sure that I wasn't susceptible to foreign agents who could bribe or blackmail me for info.  (Sadly, I was never approached by foreign agents.)

It has always amazed me that Senators and Congresspeople who have access to all kinds of government secrets are never vetted to make sure their lifestyles are as benign as mine is/  And that there have never been any reported incidents of them selling secrets.

Yeah, Ensign is a piece of work.  He broke the law and got himself two extra years of living on the taxpayers' dime before resigning.  Evidently the investigation is about to wrap up on May 4 or something.  I hope that he faces criminal charges once out of office.



(Sadly, I was never approached by foreign agents.)

So not getting seduced by the Russian blond, is a regret?


[:D]




samboct -> RE: Sen. John Ensign resigns (4/22/2011 7:35:08 AM)

Russians used to use guys a lot....and have you no romance in your soul? What guy with a defense clearance doesn't think he's got some James Bond in him....


Geez...you people.




rulemylife -> RE: Sen. John Ensign resigns (4/22/2011 7:38:21 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Reality check taz, Ensign is resigning and no one is defending him.

Its you leftists who have the widely variable standards, note how Dark Steven bizarrely tries to justify it. Leftists assert because the GOP hasnt abandoned traditional familys altogether any Republican must be judged far more harshly if one has an affair...

Its that double standard (here and in the traditional leftist media) and the fact that so many of you stand behind it that people love to mock so much.



No, you and Ensign are evidence of a double-standard.

You slam Clinton but defend Ensign only because he is a Republican.

Ensign is being judged harshly because of his hypocrisy, he called for Clinton to resign but refused to do so himself for two years until it became clear he had his back against the wall.  Not to mention his speeches praising the sanctity of marriage.


Chronicle of John Ensign's rise and fall

Ensign attacked President Bill Clinton after Clinton’s affair with Monica Lewinsky became public in 1998. Ensign said Clinton must resign, adding that "He has no credibility left."

.....Speaking on the Federal Marriage Amendment in the Senate in 2004, Ensign said: "Marriage is the cornerstone on which our society was founded. For those who say that the Constitution is so sacred that we cannot or should not adopt the Federal Marriage Amendment, I would simply point out that marriage, and the sanctity of that institution, predates the American Constitution and the founding of our nation."






LanceHughes -> RE: Sen. John Ensign resigns (4/22/2011 7:44:52 AM)

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ORIGINAL: samboct
Russians used to use guys a lot....and have you no romance in your soul? What guy with a defense clearance doesn't think he's got some James Bond in him....

Geez...you people.

I fantasized that alot - James Bond stuff - back in the late 70's when I was near 30 y.o. - deep in the Cold War.  But, y'know what?  That "gays can't serve since they can easily be blackmailed" was TRUE - at the time.
 
But like Steven (way back in this string) NOT having being approached by the USSR in the person of a hunky, blond, Russian stud - trained in the "appropriate" techniques - is a regret. LOL!
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Sorry, MODS!  NOT meant to be a high-jack although it obviously is...... It's just that the image of said blond hunk brought back some 30 years-old fantasies and the "jack"ing part of those memories spilled into a high-jack....
 
Back to your regularly scheduled rants against the other side.... never even thinking about looking for common ground. AND the MAIN reason I rarely am seen on this board.    




Owner59 -> RE: Sen. John Ensign resigns (4/22/2011 7:48:19 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LanceHughes

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ORIGINAL: samboct
Russians used to use guys a lot....and have you no romance in your soul? What guy with a defense clearance doesn't think he's got some James Bond in him....

Geez...you people.

I fantasized that alot - James Bond stuff - back in the late 70's when I was near 30 y.o.  But, y'know what?  That "gays can't serve since they can easily be blackmailed" was TRUE - at the time.
 
But like Steven (way back in this string) NOT having being approached by the USSR by a hunky, blond, Russian stud - trained in the "appropriate" techniques - is a regret. LOL!


Your right.....

A Bond-like agent with a "wide stance", would be a big problem for the GOP.....

[8D]




rulemylife -> RE: Sen. John Ensign resigns (4/22/2011 7:48:45 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Yes Steven, I am representing that especially in the traditional media there are two sets of standards for the political parties but you have to be of an open mind to see the truth for yourself.



And you still are apparently purposely ignoring the fact that it was Fox News that first reported the Ensign story.

So how is that reconciled with your open-minded "truth"?




Owner59 -> RE: Sen. John Ensign resigns (4/22/2011 7:49:55 AM)

It`s hard to see clearly though all those tears.

[;)]




EternalHoH -> RE: Sen. John Ensign resigns (4/22/2011 10:26:29 AM)

Thank heavens for the liberal media that Governor Spitzer was able too keep that hooker thing hidden away from the missus.




mnottertail -> RE: Sen. John Ensign resigns (4/22/2011 10:30:37 AM)

What sort of bothers me is that of all the presidents Tricky Dicky didn't seem to have any stray, unless him and Rebozo were doing the duty............




luckydawg -> RE: Sen. John Ensign resigns (4/22/2011 11:46:41 AM)


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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Reality check taz, Ensign is resigning and no one is defending him.

Its you leftists who have the widely variable standards, note how Dark Steven bizarrely tries to justify it. Leftists assert because the GOP hasnt abandoned traditional familys altogether any Republican must be judged far more harshly if one has an affair...

Its that double standard (here and in the traditional leftist media) and the fact that so many of you stand behind it that people love to mock so much.



No, you and Ensign are evidence of a double-standard.

You slam Clinton but defend Ensign only because he is a Republican.

Ensign is being judged harshly because of his hypocrisy, he called for Clinton to resign but refused to do so himself for two years until it became clear he had his back against the wall.  Not to mention his speeches praising the sanctity of marriage.


Chronicle of John Ensign's rise and fall

Ensign attacked President Bill Clinton after Clinton’s affair with Monica Lewinsky became public in 1998. Ensign said Clinton must resign, adding that "He has no credibility left."

.....Speaking on the Federal Marriage Amendment in the Senate in 2004, Ensign said: "Marriage is the cornerstone on which our society was founded. For those who say that the Constitution is so sacred that we cannot or should not adopt the Federal Marriage Amendment, I would simply point out that marriage, and the sanctity of that institution, predates the American Constitution and the founding of our nation."






Nope, he has not made asingle utterance in defence of Ensign.

Why do you pretend otherwise?

However there was sure a lot of defense of Clinton by your side. affairs, pay offs, using Gov resources to cover it up. And strongly defended and supported by several in here attacking Ensign, who should have resigned a few years ago.

Heck one of you is denying it even happened.




Sanity -> RE: Sen. John Ensign resigns (4/22/2011 12:04:44 PM)


No, Im mostly just ignoring you, you rarely make any sense. Take this post for example, how is this... even related? Dont most wild eyed leftists lie and try to say that FOX would never cover a story such as this?

What the fuck are you even getting at.

One thing though, kudos to FOX NEWS for proving they arent nearly as biased as many leftists try to claim they are.

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife
And you still are apparently purposely ignoring the fact that it was Fox News that first reported the Ensign story.

So how is that reconciled with your open-minded "truth"?





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