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flcouple2009 -> Text Speak (3/30/2011 9:53:20 AM)
We have a friend who teaches College English and Literature. Recently she was mentioning how many students are turning in papers littered with text speak. They are also vehemently arguing that it's correct and she has no right deducting points. Apparently proper writing in a college level paper is "old fashioned" as one of her students put it.

windchymes -> RE: Text Speak (3/30/2011 10:15:40 AM)
I would tell the little twits that college educations are old-fashioned, too, but we still have to do them the right way to get ahead in life, so shut up and learn to spell properly. But that's just me.

PeonForHer -> RE: Text Speak (3/30/2011 10:23:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: flcouple2009 We have a friend who teaches College English and Literature. Recently she was mentioning how many students are turning in papers littered with text speak. They are also vehemently arguing that it's correct and she has no right deducting points. Apparently proper writing in a college level paper is "old fashioned" as one of her students put it. I work as an examiner for A levels here in the UK. I see over a thousand scripts a year written by 17-18 year olds who are (usually) hoping to get into university. A few years ago, I'd see the occasional bit of text-speak; now, I almost never see it. There's no rule about penalising kids for using text-speak, but they're all (correctly) warned not to use it because it's likely to piss off anyone marking their papers. Marks can also be lost because the examiner can't understand what the student is saying and, needless to say, it's widely believed that students should learn English rather than examiners learn text-speak.

peachgirl -> RE: Text Speak (3/30/2011 10:30:13 AM)
My brother-in-law teaches English 101 at his local JC...some of the stories he tells are just amazing. My favorite thing is that whenever students turn in papers, the first thing he does (or has my sister do) is google a few phrases to make sure they didn't download their paper off the internet.

Edwynn -> RE: Text Speak (3/30/2011 10:57:08 AM)
The internet plagiarizing check has been standard practice for some years now. Some students do not realize that the detection of it is even easier than the original plagiarizing itself. What I hate about not having gotten to the university sooner than I did is the incessant cell phone issue. No matter how careful students try to be, one will go off in at least one of every two classes, and if a professor does not make everyone take it out and turn it off or otherwise make grave threats before an exam, it's absolutely guaranteed that one will blast into the classroom in mid-test. And the Uni library is a complete joke now, impossible to find any spot where one or several normal voice c-phone conversations are not going on, except for the top floor, where there are no computers. If one wants to be at a computer station, details of private insignificances and minor dramas are an unavoidable concomitant.

windchymes -> RE: Text Speak (3/30/2011 11:04:33 AM)
They even use cell phones to cheat on exams. They keep the phones on vibrate, discretely text a test question to a stooge on the outside, the stooge texts the answer back. And these were 20, 30 & 40 year old adults in a year-long course I took last year.

mnottertail -> RE: Text Speak (3/30/2011 11:05:55 AM)
Larry? Curley? Moe? Shemp? Joe? Give us some names, citations. BCNU

Arpig -> RE: Text Speak (3/30/2011 11:07:50 AM)
quote: They are also vehemently arguing that it's correct and she has no right deducting points. I wouldn't deduct points. I'd just give it an F at the first example of text speak and move on to the next essay. But I'm an asshole and a language Nazi at heart.

porcelaine -> RE: Text Speak (3/30/2011 11:18:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: flcouple2009 They are also vehemently arguing that it's correct and she has no right deducting points. Apparently proper writing in a college level paper is "old fashioned" as one of her students put it. Greetings, i prefer to converse with individuals that write in complete sentences. i won't expend one ounce of energy trying to deduce that gibberish. my discussions haven't altered in either medium. The people i speak with must be incredibly literate. [;)] Namaste, ~porcelaine

Hillwilliam -> RE: Text Speak (3/30/2011 11:21:39 AM)
Maybe he should write "EPIC FAIL" across the top of papers with text speak.

LaTigresse -> RE: Text Speak (3/30/2011 11:24:00 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: porcelaine quote: ORIGINAL: flcouple2009 They are also vehemently arguing that it's correct and she has no right deducting points. Apparently proper writing in a college level paper is "old fashioned" as one of her students put it. Greetings, i prefer to converse with individuals that write in complete sentences. i won't expend one ounce of energy trying to deduce that gibberish. my discussions haven't altered in either medium. The people i speak with must be incredibly literate. [;)] Namaste, ~porcelaine This. I don't get freaked out over a few misspelled words. Lord knows my spelling and writing isn't what I would expect from a college level paper... That being said, I also take sadistic glee in ignoring or poking fun at text speak.

mnottertail -> RE: Text Speak (3/30/2011 11:24:08 AM)
U R A F

porcelaine -> RE: Text Speak (3/30/2011 11:27:09 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LaTigresse That being said, I also take sadistic glee in ignoring or poking fun at text speak. i love it when i'm insulted text style. It's very cosmopolitan. [:D]

Moonhead -> RE: Text Speak (3/30/2011 11:43:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Arpig quote: They are also vehemently arguing that it's correct and she has no right deducting points. I wouldn't deduct points. I'd just give it an F at the first example of text speak and move on to the next essay. But I'm an asshole and a language Nazi at heart. Sounds right to me.

DarkSteven -> RE: Text Speak (3/30/2011 11:43:53 AM)
1. This is a LITERATURE course? Show me where James Joyce or Henry James used textspeak. 2. If I give a rule and you don't like it, you discuss it up front. If the students didn't object to the text speak ban when announced, they lost the ability to whine later.

Moonhead -> RE: Text Speak (3/30/2011 11:46:14 AM)
Right. Unless there's a "Prince Lyrics 101" module, that shit has no place in a literature course.

Kaliko -> RE: Text Speak (3/30/2011 11:50:12 AM)
I hate text speak. Even when I do text, which is often, I use complete sentences and punctuation. Text speak is also an immediate disqualification of anyone who thinks they might be interested in me, on this or any other site. That being said, language does change based not on how people think it should be used, but rather, how people actually use it. Though I hate it, I'm sure the day will come when text speak will become accepted in schools.

YSG -> RE: Text Speak (3/30/2011 11:53:09 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Arpig quote: They are also vehemently arguing that it's correct and she has no right deducting points. I wouldn't deduct points. I'd just give it an F at the first example of text speak and move on to the next essay. But I'm an asshole and a language Nazi at heart. I am saving this idea for my career as a teacher [:D]

gothikbutterfly -> RE: Text Speak (3/30/2011 11:53:14 AM)
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Moonhead -> RE: Text Speak (3/30/2011 11:54:44 AM)
The usage that defines a language tends be based more on what's published than what goes through sms phone services, though. No need to worry until people start writing novels in txt spk as a matter of course rather than as a novelty, m8.

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