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needlesandpins -> eyesight and colours? (3/23/2011 12:53:18 PM)

i read the thread dedicated to liz taylor and also read some of the link provided. i have seen mention quite a few times about the colour of her eyes being violet, but either the photo's of her eyes are not good enough to show true colour or i'm really not seeing it.

now it could well be that i'm just not seeing it right as i struggle with some tones of colour. like where orange gets close to yellow or red, and blues close to green. as an artist this does pose problems for me in that i can not paint in artificial light, even so called daylight bulbs. so i paint in a huge bay window i have and use a mirror to check i have tones right. i have no idea how the mirror helps me see it better but it does. i can't buy certain colour lipsticks and things unless i've been able to find a shop where there is someone who is willing to come outside with me. i struggle the most with greens though and hate having a painting with alot of greenery in the back ground.

so....

do any of you struggle with colour, and if so how do you cope, if indeed you have to?

needles



LaTigresse -> RE: eyesight and colours? (3/23/2011 12:56:00 PM)

As far as I know I see colour just fine. Lighting and computer screens can be a real bitch though.



SylvereApLeanan -> RE: eyesight and colours? (3/23/2011 1:02:38 PM)

I have an artistic bent, so I tend to see colors better than many people.  I can see subtle variations in hue and shade most people miss.



abrattyprincess -> RE: eyesight and colours? (3/23/2011 1:02:58 PM)

I see colors very vividly actually.. sometimes to the point I can't look directly at them. I can also taste certain colors like reds, purples and pinks. When I see certain shades of these colors I also get a faint taste in my mouth. There will be many times, more often than not, that I will say something like... "Ohh I just love this flavor of lipstick" instead of color... or anything really. "What flavor is that?" when referring to someone else's makeup or clothing. It's kind of weird. Other colors like certain yellows and oranges can give me awful migraines almost immediately.

My man... sadly, is mostly colorblind and can only see reds really well. Everything else he says is muted or blended. I can't imagine seeing the world that way.



SylvereApLeanan -> RE: eyesight and colours? (3/23/2011 1:05:12 PM)

Wow, synesthesia.  Do you ever taste/hear/feel textures of words or have other incongruous sensory reactions?



LaTigresse -> RE: eyesight and colours? (3/23/2011 1:05:43 PM)

Me either. Colour has always been an important part of my life.

I've been known to refuse to move into a house until I painted the walls. There are some colours that should just be illegal. As should white walls. White or beige walls have got to be the most boring thing EVER.



LillyBoPeep -> RE: eyesight and colours? (3/23/2011 1:19:23 PM)

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ORIGINAL: abrattyprincess
I can't imagine seeing the world that way.


i can't either.
as far as synesthesia goes, i have experience like that, too. sometimes things "feel green," or "feel blue," to me. or i'll associate colors with sounds/music notes. can't say i've ever tasted a color, though.

i don't have issues seeing colors, though certain kinds of light can distort color because our perception of color is based on how an object reflects that light back to us. green grass looks blue in certain kinds of shadow, etc etc.

i prefer to paint in natural sunlight just because i feel it gives me more accurate colors. some incandescent bulbs are too yellow, and that distorts the way you see things.
i love color; i couldn't imagine not being able to see it.





needlesandpins -> RE: eyesight and colours? (3/23/2011 1:35:06 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: abrattyprincess

I see colors very vividly actually.. sometimes to the point I can't look directly at them. I can also taste certain colors like reds, purples and pinks. When I see certain shades of these colors I also get a faint taste in my mouth. There will be many times, more often than not, that I will say something like... "Ohh I just love this flavor of lipstick" instead of color... or anything really. "What flavor is that?" when referring to someone else's makeup or clothing. It's kind of weird. Other colors like certain yellows and oranges can give me awful migraines almost immediately.

My man... sadly, is mostly colorblind and can only see reds really well. Everything else he says is muted or blended. I can't imagine seeing the world that way.


wow, that is different. although, thinking about it maybe understandable as what we see has been linked to our choices of foods and how we think they will taste. so maybe you are just more sensitive on that scale. i know someone who doesn't see numbers the same way as most people, more patterns and shapes if i remember rightly. very interesting.

LaT i also suffer with lighting. energy saving bulbs are one of the worst so unfortunately i don't have them in my house. i used to be a sowing machinest and some colours of fabric were horrendous to work with.

Lilly, feeling colours is a little stranger as a concept for me i think. groovy though.

on another track, i do have excellent night vision and see much more in tones than the people i happen to be with. not quite on the animal scale though, sadly lol

needles



kdsub -> RE: eyesight and colours? (3/23/2011 2:28:12 PM)

Perhaps you are more sensitive then most to Chromatic Adaptation... I certainly am.

My eyes quickly adapt to the light available. Otherwise I will see a soft yellow of white paper under incandescent light as pure white. This means that I will introduce an incorrect color caste into my art.

I have found that before I submit any art work as a finished product I must step away from the work for a few hours are even a few days if possible. When I come back I can see the color castes I could not see while I was working.

Of course my art is digital which is easy to change and walk away from… with other types of art it would be harder.

So… of course always use optimal natural light when possible but if not try to take as many breaks as you can and or constantly looking away from your work.

Butch



DomKen -> RE: eyesight and colours? (3/23/2011 2:41:19 PM)

FR
Here's a really clear photo of Miss Taylor's eye's. They're pretty clearly violet to me



[image]local://upfiles/36489/D366440895CE4C3B86C13E0F3D9DD179.jpg[/image]



needlesandpins -> RE: eyesight and colours? (3/23/2011 2:43:39 PM)

i do take alot of breaks when i paint for just that reason, and it's also another reason i use a mirror now, to start with it was help judge what the painting looked like from a distance without moving all the time. but i have found that it also helps me to see the colours better. i also allow paintings to dry as much as possible too as that helps. my favorite medium has always been carbon pencil, which infuriated my art teachers at school. i was always told it's the hardest medium to work in, but i wouldn't know as for me it's the easiest.

i am a professional artist so i have learnt to get around things. i had to as a cuple of mistakes were rather costly to me to start with as i had never really realised i was having problems.

i am with you too on the quick light adaptaion thing too.

needles



needlesandpins -> RE: eyesight and colours? (3/23/2011 2:47:56 PM)

DomKen, thanks for that pic, i can just about tell from that, although i am thinking that if i didn't know what the colour was supposed to be already i may actually be doubtful. i had wondered with other photos whether editing had maybe changed the colour and that's why i was having trouble.

beautiful woman though whatever colour her eye were.

cheers

needles



DesFIP -> RE: eyesight and colours? (3/23/2011 7:04:16 PM)

My color problems are actually lighting problems. I'm known in the local paint store for coming in, getting a dozen chips and heading straight outside to see what they really look like. Then repeating over and over until something actually looks outside what I thought they looked like inside. But this is a result of their fluorescent bulbs, beige looks green, pink looks purple and so on.



MaxsBoy -> RE: eyesight and colours? (3/23/2011 7:21:23 PM)

Synesthesia is surprisingly common.  It's also frequently outgrown by adulthood.  I had a pretty strong case of it as a kid.  Letters are people's names had color, colors had taste, and music was visible.  Now I can still see music a little, but barely, and it's rapidly going away.

Eye color is pretty subjective, I think, and I also think it changes sometimes.  I call my eyes green, but sometimes they're green-blue, sometimes blue-green, and sometimes almost greyish.  It's really hard to nail down a single color for a lot of people.



windchymes -> RE: eyesight and colours? (3/23/2011 8:57:46 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DesFIP

My color problems are actually lighting problems. I'm known in the local paint store for coming in, getting a dozen chips and heading straight outside to see what they really look like. Then repeating over and over until something actually looks outside what I thought they looked like inside. But this is a result of their fluorescent bulbs, beige looks green, pink looks purple and so on.


I got to the point where I started taking handfuls of paint chips home and holding them up to the walls to see exactly which color I was going to get, because the harsh bright lighting in the store greatly distorted the true paint color. Even with doing that, my living room still goes shades from baby poop yellowish-green to nice soothing cool sage, depending on the window light at various times of day.

I know you can buy those little sample jars, but at $3-$4 a pop, I can't afford to test too many colors. I'll take home 7 or 8 paint chips in various shades and actually hold them up to the walls in the room I'm painting, and it's worked great.



Hillwilliam -> RE: eyesight and colours? (3/23/2011 9:15:28 PM)

To answer the OP.

My eyes are blue. As I get older, they are more grey (I understand that is common)

When I worked in an analytical lab, part of My job was analyticall determination of minerals by polarized light microscopy. That requires a serious ability to determine subtle color differences.

I had to take tests yearly or more often and passed with flying colors.

Personally, I don't think eye color has anything to do with it. It is all in the retina and the associated wiring to the brain.



kdsub -> RE: eyesight and colours? (3/23/2011 9:30:36 PM)

I think this is a better representation of her true eye color. People love to enhance eye color with photoshop..This picture looks realistic to me anyway.

Butch

[image]http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k69/Daviskw2004/Elizabeth_Taylor_03.jpg[/image]



needlesandpins -> RE: eyesight and colours? (3/24/2011 5:34:53 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

To answer the OP.

My eyes are blue. As I get older, they are more grey (I understand that is common)

When I worked in an analytical lab, part of My job was analyticall determination of minerals by polarized light microscopy. That requires a serious ability to determine subtle color differences.

I had to take tests yearly or more often and passed with flying colors.

Personally, I don't think eye color has anything to do with it. It is all in the retina and the associated wiring to the brain.


i don't think it has anything to do with eye colour either. my eyes are brown which i consider to be rather boring on myself, but others have said differently. i think it's one of those situations where you always want what you haven't got lol my ex had blue eyes that could be very vivid blue or very cold grey depending on light and mood.

that second pic is more as i think her eyes are too. the first one seems a little too obviously so.

thanks guys!

needles



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