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Should W be tried for treason

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RE: Should W be tried for treason - 3/22/2011 7:54:54 PM

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Leftists. Funny if they aren't in charge of anything. Michael Moore and Joe Biden should be tried for impersonating men. The Kenyan/Indonesian Hussein should just be outted as michelle's subbie.

I thought the proper bondage terminology was to capitalize the dom's name and lowercase the sub's.

ARE YOU TRYING TO SUBCONSCIOUSLY TELL US YOU ARE JUST MAKING THIS UP

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RE: Should W be tried for treason - 3/22/2011 8:39:08 PM

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Why is there no chance to vote no on your poll? Even tthough I wouldn't have a problem with him being tried for deliberately misleading the people into a war, I didn't vote on the poll.

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RE: Should W be tried for treason - 3/22/2011 10:48:37 PM

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Well aren't you a breath of fresh air.

Yay! Go for it pahunk! Your post made me laugh... thanks!

Whether Bush the Younger and Dumber was treasonous or not is one thing. He certainly trashed the US's reputation throughout the world. He seemed to pursue this goal with a single minded determination that bordered upon the fanatical. This may have been the only goal he succeeded in achieving, apart from the generous rewards he bestowed upon his friends and fellow warmongers in Halliburton et al.

The sigh of relief from the rest of the world upon Obama's inauguration was audible and heart felt. Please America, don't ever do that to us again. You're so much better than that.

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RE: Should W be tried for treason - 3/22/2011 10:50:15 PM

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ORIGINAL: Elisabella

ARE YOU TRYING TO SUBCONSCIOUSLY TELL US YOU ARE JUST MAKING THIS UP

Can we have a poll on this question please Elisabella?

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RE: Should W be tried for treason - 3/22/2011 11:17:08 PM

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Ya think one is necessary ?

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RE: Should W be tried for treason - 3/22/2011 11:45:18 PM

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Ya think one is necessary ?

Excellent question. From where I sit ... no, it seems unnecessary.

Though I can think of a couple of ppl who could benefit if these things are spelt out to them in blunt single-syllable terms. It's easier to get blood out of a stone than to get some from the loony right to admit their 'facts' are really wishful fantasies. Sadly, it's either that or having to endure the mindless repetition of their frequently insane delusions.

I am open to persuasion on the matter.......

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RE: Should W be tried for treason - 3/22/2011 11:48:40 PM

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Every president has lied about something or another, but reasons and consequences are what matter.

Nixon resigned because he not only was about be impeached, but he knew there would be a conviction in the Senate also (the latter meaning removal from office). He lied as part of the cover up concerning Watergate, though he didn't order it and didn't know until after the fact. He did however order a couple of other break ins. In any case all those events had to do with his classic paranoia, and nothing to do directly with national interests per se, and concerning that he didn't lie any more than other presidents had in the past about whatever war might be going on at the time.

Clinton was impeached for lying about a strictly personal issue. Dumb as he might have been for what happened, the matter had even far less to do with any national interests than Nixon's lying. And for a silly matter such as that, a president was impeached. This says more about the true national embarrassments in congress at the time than anything, and history will show that.

The W's administration told a large book's worth of lies, starting the first week on the job. All very deliberate, very intentional, and not to cover up but to purposefully induce others into a war under false pretense, and willfully instigated actions they knew full well would cause long term damage to national interests, all for sake of profit for a very few. Those lies have cost well over 100,000 lives so far, and the final number of trillions of dollars/pounds/euros/dinar etc. to all the countries involved will not have a final tally for years to come.

I don't care about GW, all he did was sign whatever they put before him and read to the public what they handed him.

The fact that Ceyney, Rumsfeldt, Wolfovitz, and Rove, at the least, are not swinging from the gallows, not even charged with treason, not even charged with war crimes, makes a mockery of any past or future sanctions against presidents for "lying."

Especially for those in the rest of the world knowing about a previous president being impeached for a blow job, we have to look like a frikkin' joke of historical proportions, and a rather sick one at that.

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RE: Should W be tried for treason - 3/23/2011 7:04:40 AM

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Well aren't you a breath of fresh air.

Yay! Go for it pahunk! Your post made me laugh... thanks!

Whether Bush the Younger and Dumber was treasonous or not is one thing. He certainly trashed the US's reputation throughout the world. He seemed to pursue this goal with a single minded determination that bordered upon the fanatical. This may have been the only goal he succeeded in achieving, apart from the generous rewards he bestowed upon his friends and fellow warmongers in Halliburton et al.

The sigh of relief from the rest of the world upon Obama's inauguration was audible and heart felt. Please America, don't ever do that to us again. You're so much better than that.

I do think Gore would have been a disaster as well. Same agenda but rotated to a left right cycle. If you notice- some issues are boomerang they pound them until some sloppy legislation happens.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

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RE: Should W be tried for treason - 3/23/2011 7:07:27 AM

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If Gore had been elected we'd have mandatory carbon trading and be censoring the internets that he invented.

Unlike Kevin Rudd however he wouldn't have been kicked out in the middle of his fail.

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RE: Should W be tried for treason - 3/23/2011 7:14:03 AM

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If Gore had been elected we'd have mandatory carbon trading and be censoring the internets that he invented.

Unlike Kevin Rudd however he wouldn't have been kicked out in the middle of his fail.

What we need to do to improve the system is to start pulling corporate charters. Corporations have too much power- and undue influence.

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RE: Should W be tried for treason - 3/23/2011 8:06:07 AM

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No.

That wasn't one of the options.

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RE: Should W be tried for treason - 3/23/2011 8:08:36 AM

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No.Being a bumbling idiot and quite possibly the worst President ever does not reach the threshold required to bring a charge of treason.
Now if you want to discuss some other members of his administration.........perhaps a case can be made.Surely there were some felonious acts committed amongst that collection of keystone kops .

Hmmmm...........Scooter comes to mind.

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RE: Should W be tried for treason - 3/23/2011 8:12:33 AM

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...well talk is cheap. Live like the Amish- use no oil... and by virtue of your ACTIONS, you starve the beast.

Unless we seriously reduce consumption- arm chair warriors- really dont mean much.

So you use no oil?

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RE: Should W be tried for treason - 3/23/2011 8:15:58 AM

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Section 4.
The President, Vice President and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.

http://topics.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articleii

So, for any of them to be impeached, the definition of high crimes and misdemeanors would have to be defined.

You're taking this way too seriously Tazzy, and I don't think that it is the spirit that was intended.

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RE: Should W be tried for treason - 3/23/2011 8:58:32 AM

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Im not taking this too seriously, just trying to get a few folks to think. Neither Obama or Bush did anything to be impeached for, that we know of at this point.

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RE: Should W be tried for treason - 3/23/2011 9:01:33 AM

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Robert Novak outed Valerie Plame with information he recieved from Richard Armitage.

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RE: Should W be tried for treason - 3/23/2011 9:06:27 AM

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And?

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RE: Should W be tried for treason - 3/23/2011 10:09:43 AM

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...well talk is cheap. Live like the Amish- use no oil... and by virtue of your ACTIONS, you starve the beast.

Unless we seriously reduce consumption- arm chair warriors- really dont mean much.

So you use no oil?

I live a wanton, gluttony opulent life.

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RE: Should W be tried for treason - 3/23/2011 10:14:26 AM

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Yep. You haven't even looked into buying an aga to take your cooking and central heating off the grid, have you?

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RE: Should W be tried for treason - 3/23/2011 10:15:00 AM

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