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RE: McCain puts his foot in it. - 3/21/2011 4:43:01 PM

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To be honest, I wonder about those who are in such favor of this campaign, and those complaining that Obama did not move fast enough.

Not sure if this is directed at myself but I'm not in favour of either option. I think an intensive diplomatic engagement with Gaddafi should have been the first option.

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Would you be so willing if this was happening on US soil, if the rebels were americans, and they were seeking to overthrow our government?

Before you start snapping about how it would never happen... think Tea Party.

I think therein lies one of the problems. Getting involved with internal disputes within sovereign states is a very serious matter and it seems internationally that the choice to do so is taken much too lightly when the state in question isn't particularly strong militarily. We saw this in the former Yugoslavia and then in Kosovo but recent revelations suggest the jury is still out to an extent on what really went on there, and which sides were the instigators of the conflict - probably both were equally bad but the Serbs bore the brunt of Nato's attacks. In a sense it set an unhealthy precedent for Iraq.

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LMAO well to be honest, I fail to see any need ...wilful ignorance is the only argument to be offered by Mcains and Palins fans
Whats the point? its like shooting fish in a barrel.
But yanno I love to watch them try, its sad how I get my kicks lately, but hey , its just a phase until the next election:)

I have no wish to start a flame war but this sort of sentiment is indicative of the general attitude on the forum. It simply isn't a healthy approach to discussion. Left or right, no side has a monoploy on what is right or wrong as far as I can see.

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RE: McCain puts his foot in it. - 3/21/2011 4:43:41 PM

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Steven, good job on the "acting surprised!"
What do you expect from this guy? By his own admission he's a "loose cannon on deck."
He's always been all over the board!
He engages mouth before brain.
Him and Hillary should get together and start making "statements" about Libya. They're both full of shit!
I respect him for his service to our country but he should have gone into the beer business not politics!
I don't want to see us involved in Libya in any way, same for Afganistan and Iraq.

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RE: McCain puts his foot in it. - 3/21/2011 4:49:29 PM

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IF you disagreed with the coup. If you didnt, then what?

Of course I would disagree with the coup.A coup would violate every institution,all of the checks and balances that we all (I assume here) hold dear.
Are you now asking me to take a further flight of fancy and try to imagine a situation where I agree with the shredding of the Constitution itself?
My imagination is not set up to imagine what is not possible.

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RE: McCain puts his foot in it. - 3/21/2011 4:52:46 PM

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I think therein lies one of the problems. Getting involved with internal disputes within sovereign states is a very serious matter and it seems internationally that the choice to do so is taken much too lightly when the state in question isn't particularly strong militarily. We saw this in the former Yugoslavia and then in Kosovo but recent revelations suggest the jury is still out to an extent on what really went on there, and which sides were the instigators of the conflict - probably both were equally bad but the Serbs bore the brunt of Nato's attacks. In a sense it set an unhealthy precedent for Iraq.

Thank you for being open to the possibility and giving an intelligent response. Not sure I agree, but at least you didnt belittle my efforts to explore the what ifs.

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RE: McCain puts his foot in it. - 3/21/2011 5:04:48 PM

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I hope you are not implying that I have been engaged in such an effort....I wouldn't belittle you or your efforts,and I do hope you know that.

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RE: McCain puts his foot in it. - 3/21/2011 8:12:46 PM

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I think therein lies one of the problems. Getting involved with internal disputes within sovereign states is a very serious matter and it seems internationally that the choice to do so is taken much too lightly when the state in question isn't particularly strong militarily. We saw this in the former Yugoslavia and then in Kosovo but recent revelations suggest the jury is still out to an extent on what really went on there, and which sides were the instigators of the conflict - probably both were equally bad but the Serbs bore the brunt of Nato's attacks. In a sense it set an unhealthy precedent for Iraq.

Thank you for being open to the possibility and giving an intelligent response. Not sure I agree, but at least you didnt belittle my efforts to explore the what ifs.

Thanks for saying so. Its an interesting hypothesis as such questions when applied closer to home can help bring out the moral ambiguity of a given policy. I feel uncomfortable with the lax attitude toward sovereignty - its a disturbing precedent.