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RE: Same or different - 3/18/2011 9:21:54 PM

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Queer also includes heterosexual people who are advocates for lgbtq people.

Wow. I'd never heard that.

Really? Huh. It's pretty well known in my circle of queer het friends. It's how we all do the whole "we are all queer" kind of thing. I remember it as far back as when the AIDS crisis hit.

Nope. Been a faggot, as NS would call it, for 46 years now, and never came across that usage.

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RE: Same or different - 3/18/2011 9:23:43 PM

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Don't get cheeky with me.

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RE: Same or different - 3/18/2011 9:24:46 PM

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Since my edit was at the bottom of page 2, I figured you'd never see it. Here it is:

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Queer also includes heterosexual people who are advocates for lgbtq people.

Wow. I'd never heard that.

Really? Huh. It's pretty well known in my circle of queer het friends. It's how we all do the whole "we are all queer" kind of thing. I remember it as far back as when the AIDS crisis hit.

ETA: I remember in the 90's a bunch of (straight) people working in the Gay Community being really supportive of the people who were fighting for their rights and their lives. The straight people wanted to be identified with the community, saying "Don't hate my gay daughter / friend / etc." and looking for a word that would encompass that openness and alert others to an affiliation with gay people.

As an example, there was a straight woman I knew back then. She had been recently divorced and wanted the company of men without the difficulties of sexuality. She would go dancing every week at the gay bars and realized how much was needed in the gay community. She was really grateful for how that community helped heal a part of her and helped her self esteem. She was accepted and loved for who she was. She saw a notice on a bulletin board for the gay and lesbian hotline and went through the training. She became one of the best staffers ever. That she was straight was irrelevant to people who were suicidal, scared, coming out, learning they had HIV, etc. I suspect it may have actually been a healing piece for them to be accepted by a straight person. Anyway, she wanted people to know how much she loved gay people, how much she appreciated them. She did not want to be seen as "straight" because of the stereotype that went with it. She adopted the word "queer" so that people would know her mindset.

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RE: Same or different - 3/18/2011 10:03:29 PM

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that is a nice story :)

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RE: Same or different - 3/19/2011 8:20:28 AM

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i think gay has become the more politically correct term for queer. i have been called faggot by straight MASTERS and MISTRESSES

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RE: Same or different - 3/19/2011 8:30:13 AM

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to me "queer" is more of an umbrella -- it includes gay and lesbian, but also people with gender fluidity, transpeople, and such. some people use "queer" as an overarching label for anything that's not typical heterosexuality.

Yeah, that's how I've generally seen it used - as sort an umbrella term for GLBT + genderqueer + anything else that doesn't fit with the "typical" heterosexual expressions of sexuality and gender. As in, "the queer community".

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RE: Same or different - 3/22/2011 8:03:34 PM

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Whether used as an umbrella term for all LGBT and its related areas, or as a plug to fill in everything missed by the acronym, Queer is simply the direct antonym of heteronormative.

(Blah blah blah, people define their own identities without having labels forced upon them, blah blah blah)

All gays are queer.
Not all queers are gay.

You are all queer.
You are not all gay.

I am both gay and queer. To cease being gay I'd have to change my sexual preference. To cease being queer I'd have to change most of my personality, behaviours and view of the world.

Simples.

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RE: Same or different - 3/23/2011 1:56:02 PM

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Do ppl still use that word? I can't remember the last time I heard it used.

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RE: Same or different - 3/23/2011 3:31:10 PM

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Saying someone is a "little queer" either means they are a gay midget or slightly odd?

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RE: Same or different - 3/23/2011 4:09:57 PM

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I'm a gay female who self identifies as queer. My reason is I'm attracted to biological females who self identify as male, and do not consider themselves female.

So I think they are different, because "Queer" doesn't box me in like "Lesbian" does, but it's the only option to choose for my profile here, so I do.

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RE: Same or different - 3/23/2011 5:33:13 PM

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ORIGINAL: NocturnalStalker

What about, "faggot?"

Example:

Look at those two faggots.

I've always used this for male homosexuals. I also use this for people who are male and I dislike.

That is some fucked up shit, dude.

Let's go ahead and bash other people for their nontraditional sexual preferences on an adult site where you are advertising your nontraditional sexual preferences.

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RE: Same or different - 3/23/2011 5:52:08 PM

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Okay, let's do it!!!...Two dykes that were heading to a Melissa Etheridge concert decide to stop into a bar and get a drink.

Bartender says, "Sorry, we don't serve lesbos in this bar."

One of the fucking dykes says to the bartender, "Come on give us a drink, and besides, we are not even gay."

Bartender walks towards the pretty lesbo and says, "If you suck my dick then I will know that you like guys and I will pour you a drink."

The pretty lesbian not wearing the shorts and birkenstocks, smiles and says, "Well, come on over here big boy and let's do it!"

As the bartender walks over to the nice looking lesbo, the bull dykey one sneaks around him and jump on his back and starts stabbing him in the neck and the face with a big fucking hunting knife. The cute lez then smashes two bottles of booze over his head, slits his throat and then guts him with her lover's hunting knife. They then pour bacardi 151 all over him and the bar remove his wallet out of his pocket, empty the register and then set the dying man and the bar on fire.

I don't know why lesbians routinely do this kind of shit. But whether you call them lesbos, dykes or queers those motherfuckers are crazy and should not be fucked with.

I personally do not care for them in the least.

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RE: Same or different - 3/23/2011 6:02:34 PM

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Domi sure has some interesting masturbatory fantasies.

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RE: Same or different - 3/23/2011 6:08:52 PM

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I've missed you, Domi.

Now I'm trying to picture me and CreepyStalker in that scenario, but I can't decide which of us is which. We're both pretty.

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RE: Same or different - 3/23/2011 6:22:23 PM

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I've missed you, Domi.

Now I'm trying to picture me and CreepyStalker in that scenario, but I can't decide which of us is which. We're both pretty.

We are, but clearly I'm the bulldyke.
I'm not sure about the Birkenstocks, but I have DMs. DMs are sufficiently dykey. Once I lose all my hair I'll get some dungarees and then I'll totally be a bulldyke! :-D

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RE: Same or different - 3/23/2011 6:37:02 PM

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It's just that I can't imagine you jumping on the bartender's back and stabbing him with the big hunting knife.

If one of us is going to be stab-happy it's clearly me.

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RE: Same or different - 3/23/2011 7:11:44 PM

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It's just that I can't imagine you jumping on the bartender's back and stabbing him with the big hunting knife.

If one of us is going to be stab-happy it's clearly me.

I went to a chavvy inner-city comprehensive; I have a whole GCSE in shanking. (I got a B, but only cause I messed up the practical exam by missing a major artery by millimetres, would have been an A* otherwise.).

Luring the bartender over with promises of blowjobs is clearly more your forte.

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RE: Same or different - 3/23/2011 7:16:01 PM

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Well, you say that, but I have concerns about your ability to jump on his back safely and sanely. I have this vision of him just...toppling over. And then we'd be in a right pickle.

And country mice have knives too, you know!

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RE: Same or different - 3/23/2011 8:44:29 PM

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In the world I came from, queer meant gay when gay still meant happy, and the word homo was usually followed by "wner".

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RE: Same or different - 3/24/2011 7:13:06 AM

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Two dykes that were heading to a Melissa Etheridge concert decide to stop into a bar and get a drink...

Bartender says, "Sorry, we don't serve lesbos in this bar."

One of the fucking dykes says to the bartender, "Come on give us a drink, and besides, we are not even gay."

Bartender walks towards the pretty lesbo and says, "If you suck my dick then I will know that you like guys and I will pour you a drink."

The pretty lesbian not wearing the shorts and birkenstocks, smiles and says, "Well, come on over here big boy and let's do it!"

As the bartender walks over to the nice looking lesbo, the bull dykey one sneaks around him and jump on his back and starts stabbing him in the neck and the face with a big fucking hunting knife. The cute lez then smashes two bottles of booze over his head, slits his throat and then guts him with her lover's hunting knife. They then pour bacardi 151 all over him and the bar remove his wallet out of his pocket, empty the register and then set the dying man and the bar on fire.

I don't know why lesbians routinely do this kind of shit. But whether you call them lesbos, dykes or queers those motherfuckers are crazy and should not be fucked with.

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