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You mean kinda like you claiming that anyone said the bill had the words DEATH PANEL.

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Go

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no known mechanism to keep greed in check

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You mean kinda like you claiming that anyone said the bill had the words DEATH PANEL.

Kinda like you trying to run around pretending that many conservative sources that the bill created Death Panels.

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Willbe has spoken, there isn't a lie in the op....


Of course, considering the source of the statement, it was expected.

Kinda like going through the health reform bill and looking for the words DEATH PANEL.

You mean kinda like you claiming that anyone said the bill had the words DEATH PANEL.

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Willbe has spoken, there isn't a lie in the op....


Of course, considering the source of the statement, it was expected.

Kinda like going through the health reform bill and looking for the words DEATH PANEL.

You mean kinda like you claiming that anyone said the bill had the words DEATH PANEL.

Well gee, to quote the REPUBLICAN Saint Sarah Palin, the bill does create DEATH PANELS, and there is nothing in the damn thing that even REMOTELY touches on the fucking subject.

Thus, every Right wing talking head that said it did, LIED through their fucking teeth, as has any right wing supporter who makes the same claim.

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The only liar is you.

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The only liar is you.

Please link to the part of the bill where it establishes ANYTHING remotely resembling a death panel.

By the way, we KNOW the Republicans support the concept, Look at Arizona.


THE ONLY THING the health reform bill that can be remotely considered a connection to the phrase is the fact that it makes insurance PAY for counseling on what to do in the event of TERMINAL conditions from which there is NO chance of recovery.

So now you post a link to something that says otherwise or shut the fuck up.

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natural consequence of government control

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every Right wing talking head that said it did, LIED through their fucking teeth, as has any right wing supporter who makes the same claim.

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Please link to any one who has ever said that there is anything IN THE BILL that creates death panels. There is nothing in Canadian health care law that CREATES death panels, but rationing has been in the news quite a bit lately. Learn to read something other than HuffPo.

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The Democrats promise that a government health care system will reduce the cost of health care, but as the economist Thomas Sowell has pointed out, government health care will not reduce the cost; it will simply refuse to pay the cost. And who will suffer the most when they ration care? The sick, the elderly, and the disabled, of course. The America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama’s “death panel” so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their “level of productivity in society,” whether they are worthy of health care. Such a system is downright evil. Statement on the Current Health Care Debate by Sarah Palin on Friday, August 7, 2009 at 3:26pm

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from Sarah Palin's face book page

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natural consequence of government control

Want to explain how that is different from any private insurance company or hospital declining care? try suing the government, then you can explain the difference

   How is it different from pursuing a policy that jams ERs and makes people die? 
I don't know of any such policy, so you'll have to explain the difference

Or go bankrupt trying to stay alive?

People dont go bankrupt trying to stay alive. They go bankrupt because they didnt prepare for the need to stay alive.


But the real lie was describing counseling as a "death panel", when it was in fact the same sort of counseling about preparations for death that every conscientious social worker or estate lawyer does.

A social worker or estate lawyer doesnt have a financial interest in your decision.

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Please link to any one who has ever said that there is anything IN THE BILL that creates death panels. There is nothing in Canadian health care law that CREATES death panels, but rationing has been in the news quite a bit lately. Learn to read something other than HuffPo.

First, from Sarah Palin's face book page:

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The Democrats promise that a government health care system will reduce the cost of health care, but as the economist Thomas Sowell has pointed out, government health care will not reduce the cost; it will simply refuse to pay the cost. And who will suffer the most when they ration care? The sick, the elderly, and the disabled, of course. The America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama’s “death panel” so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their “level of productivity in society,” whether they are worthy of health care. Such a system is downright evil. Statement on the Current Health Care Debate by Sarah Palin on Friday, August 7, 2009 at 3:26pm

After repeated debunkings of "death panels," conservative media backtrack to "de facto death panels"

Watch the fucking video.

A fox news person says "The entire bill is one big death panel"

If you dont want to watch the video, just read the transcript.]\

Sorry charlie, YOU LOSE

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You mean kinda like you claiming that anyone said the bill had the words DEATH PANEL.

Kinda like you trying to run around pretending that many conservative sources that the bill created Death Panels.

It is the natural consequence of government control. It doesnt have to be specifically legilslated.

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Please link to any one who has ever said that there is anything IN THE BILL that creates death panels. There is nothing in Canadian health care law that CREATES death panels, but rationing has been in the news quite a bit lately. Learn to read something other than HuffPo.

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