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RE: Qaddafi unleashed/ Libya on fire - 2/25/2011 5:25:24 AM

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

He reminds me of someone who likes disco.

Why is this a bad thing?

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RE: Qaddafi unleashed/ Libya on fire - 2/25/2011 5:34:06 AM

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ORIGINAL: Marini

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

He reminds me of someone who likes disco.

Maybe so, I am stuck in the 80s myself.
I enjoy listening to his perspective on issues from the Middle East.

Agrees with marini.

Ashjor at least has actually been there and seems to have extensive knowledge of the people and pressures of the region that the rest of us lack.

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RE: Qaddafi unleashed/ Libya on fire - 2/25/2011 5:56:24 AM

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

American influence and options are very limited. The twin errors of support for the old order and the Israeli alliance have ensured that.

I don't know that I'd call them "errors". We were supporting whatever despot was in charge. The threat of nationalizing the oil industries' capital equipment and kidnapping their employees would not be as unthinkable there as it would be in Europe. We needed their oil and we needed peace with Israel (IMO).

Hatred of the West and of Israel was frequently state sponsored. The ruling despots used that to take potential heat off themselves. Face it, if you're an Arab worried about whether you'll be able to afford bread, why do you care if Israel exists or not?

The bright light in all of this is that Western influence is very strong in media and the Middle Easterners who had TV and Internet could see Western standards and values as a sharp contrast. Hopefully that will temper them and make for a somewhat pro-Western attitude.

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