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Brain -> RE: Scott Brown (5/23/2011 7:35:03 PM)

Flip-flopping little worm - a week ago he was in favor of the Paul Ryan plan to destroy Medicare.
I hope to see him lose the Senate seat - Republicans have no business to hold a Senate seat in Massachusetts. The only reason Brown won in Massachusetts is because the health care bill didn't have a public option.

Scott Brown: I won't back Paul Ryan Medicare plan - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

Massachusetts Republican Sen. Scott Brown said on Monday he would vote against Rep. Paul Ryan's plan to reform Medicare, citing fears that the plan would require seniors to bear a disproportionate burden of its costs and put them at risk of not being able to afford coverage.

Brown is one of few prominent Republicans, however, to explicitly state his opposition. Newt Gingrich, who slammed the plan as "radical" and "right-wing social engineering," later walked back his criticism of the proposal after a skewering by conservatives.


http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20065354-503544.html


Mass. Sen. Scott Brown. (Credit: CBS


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Brain -> RE: Scott Brown (5/23/2011 7:43:53 PM)


I don't like him because he has no principles. He will flip-flop and take any position and say anything he has to to keep his Senate seat. And if he can get away with it he will be with the extreme right wingers as much as possible including destroying Medicare.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

have to say I kinda like him, but then is anyone surprised?





joether -> RE: Scott Brown (5/23/2011 7:59:42 PM)

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ORIGINAL: maybemaybenot
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ORIGINAL: joether
Take it from a resident of the Commonwealth....

Sen. Brown doesn't really have a chance in the next election. It was a flook he was even elected. Largely the reason he was elected, had nothing really to do with him. Moderates voted for him, because they were angry at President Obama at the time for his stance to keep the troops in Afghanistan longer, instead of 'bringing them home now'.

"The Massachusetts Republican is looking unbeatable in his 2012 reelection bid, according to a Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee (DSCC) poll obtained by Salon's Steve Kornacki:


But the DSCC received some bad news this week when a poll it commissioned found that Brown's popularity is soaring. The survey, which has been seen by at least one D.C. insider and was detailed for Salon, measured Brown's approval rating at 73 percent -- easily surpassing the scores for Barack Obama and the state's two top Democrats, Gov. Deval Patrick and Sen. John Kerry. It also found him running over the magic 50 percent mark against every potential Democratic challenger, and crushing the strongest perceived Democrats (Reps. Michael Capuano and Ed Markey and former Rep. Marty Meehan) by double-digit margins. The results only grew closer when respondents were primed with negative information about Brown. "


http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/04/the-massively-popular-scott-brown/73334/


General Reply:

Senator Brown did not run in the Teabag platform. He got huge Teabag support because of the < at the time > upcoming Healthcare vote which he had pledged to vote against. He was my State Senator before running for the " Kennedy Seat " and I worked on his campaign and still work for his upcoming campaign and believe me, the Teabag folks don't like him, nor will he get much of their support. I don't think they really vetted his position on the issues other than HC, because he in no way resembles a Teabag boy.

Lucy : He is a decent chap. He is a great Senator. And I have adamantly disagreed with some of his voting record and emailed and called his office to voice my opposition. I don't think you can pin a label on him < Dem or Rep >, he has an independent mind and will vote the way he best thinks represents the people of Massachusetts. That's doing his job, IMO, even when I disagree with him.

I would love to see him run for POTUS, hopefully in 2016. That would be a refreshing change. And I mean that: from Obama as well as Bush.

mbmbn


Did you even bother to look at the date of the post your replying to there, maybemaybenot? Take it from a Mass Resident that knows both Democrats and Republicans who do polling for the state: Sen. Scott Brown will be under considerable pressure in the next election. He wont have moderates to help him 'send a message to Washington' this time. If anything, they'll vote for the Democrat. You can say all you want that he's more popular than President Obama; he also has considerably less responsibility to the American public than President Obama.





SternSkipper -> RE: Scott Brown (5/23/2011 8:32:32 PM)

Why won't he back Paul Ryan... Because he knows his days are numbered and doesn't want to rush things with a RECALL. He represents a constituency who will replace him if he does.

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I don't like him because he has no principles. He will flip-flop and take any position and say anything he has to to keep his Senate seat. And if he can get away with it he will be with the extreme right wingers as much as possible including destroying Medicare.
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
have to say I kinda like him, but then is anyone surprised?


Okay... I am in the HEART of Mr Browns district. I feel obligated to tell all my CM friends and correspondents before you invest in any debate or messaging.

SCOTT BROWN IS A POLITICAL CORPSE... he will be replaced in the coming election, He ran as a fake independent and went all GOP on the people of massachusetts. And the only reason he was elected in a special election was that some ASSHOLE  determined he would dump a bunch of money into Mothra Coakley's lap and screw a guy who could beat Scott Brown with his eyes closed, but lacked the funding to stage a formidable opposition in primary.
    I know quite a few very active folks in politics here in the bay state and am active as an independent myself. I am assured by folks I always know to be right, and just the general reaction of the public to his demeanor and voting record that his next run will be his last.
   It was a real cute stunt for the republicans to spend SO MUCH MONEY (sorta wasteful really) to contaminate Ted's seat with elephant ass. but it's rolling to a close.
Scott's done... never mind destined for 'greater things'

He will be returning to his job as a president at a HEALTH INSURANCE CARRIER




maybemaybenot -> RE: Scott Brown (5/23/2011 9:24:53 PM)


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ORIGINAL: joether



Did you even bother to look at the date of the post your replying to there, maybemaybenot?


No, I didn't. I'm sorry.

Take it from a Mass Resident that knows both Democrats and Republicans who do polling for the state: Sen. Scott Brown will be under considerable pressure in the next election. He wont have moderates to help him 'send a message to Washington' this time. If anything, they'll vote for the Democrat. You can say all you want that he's more popular than President Obama; he also has considerably less responsibility to the American public than President Obama.

I didn't say anything about him being more popular thean Obama. I think that the " more popular than Obama " was a poll from last year.
The link I gave is the result of pollsters. Maybe you're pollster friends have different numbers.







tazzygirl -> RE: Scott Brown (5/23/2011 9:26:08 PM)

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Did you even bother to look at the date of the post your replying to there, maybemaybenot?


Its a three month old post when it was revived... well within the time limits the Mods requested.

I dont see this as an issue.




Owner59 -> RE: Scott Brown (5/23/2011 9:30:04 PM)

Joe Walsh:

Scott Brown 'Should Be Ashamed Of Himself'

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/23/joe-walsh-scott-brown-sho_n_865944.html.




SternSkipper -> RE: Scott Brown (5/23/2011 10:24:25 PM)

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Especially now he wont back paul ryans medicare plan!!!!
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0511/55477.html
Why can’t I go along with the Ryan Medicare plan? First, I fear that as health inflation rises, the cost of private plans will outgrow the government premium support— and the elderly will be forced to pay ever higher deductibles and co-pays. Protecting those who have been counting on the current system their entire adult lives should be the key principle of reform.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0511/55477.html#ixzz1NCLpgTtk


Hmmmmmm and then we'd have old people everywhere bitching and then, because it's privatized, the GOP gets to invoke it's second favorite tool, the bailout.





SternSkipper -> RE: Scott Brown (5/25/2011 12:52:41 PM)

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Take it from a Mass Resident that knows both Democrats and Republicans who do polling for the state: Sen. Scott Brown will be under considerable pressure in the next election. He wont have moderates to help him 'send a message to Washington' this time. If anything, they'll vote for the Democrat. You can say all you want that he's more popular than President Obama; he also has considerably less responsibility to the American public than President Obama.

I didn't say anything about him being more popular thean Obama. I think that the " more popular than Obama " was a poll from last year.
The link I gave is the result of pollsters. Maybe you're pollster friends have different numbers.


Joether - had no idea you were a mass res too... Howdy

But I don't remember maybe saying that either she agreed with or the popularity thing was even her findings. ... I seem to remember a straw poll like that somewhere too Prolly the fucking herald.
   I think we both know they'll say anything






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