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RE: Medical marijuana ruled out at University - 1/28/2011 9:37:02 AM

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Ahhh but moon your missing the point.

The states should follow the federal law. Unless of course as in the immigration laws when the State of Arizona decided to write their own and ignore the Fed. In that case it was good for the State to do whatever they wanted.

That whole thought process would be hysterical if it wasn't so completely pathetic.

Now now Ken, let's not change the subject.

The point is you want the fed law followed when it suits you, or the state to make their own law instead when it suits you.

Stop having multiple personalities.

You brought up implementing laws of federal law. Just cause you don't like the implementation law, doesn't make MJ any more legal. The two are not related. The voters brought in the MJ law. Not the politicians. I personally voted against it. Think it is stupid. If it should be legalized then do it right. The voters don't set health standards they hire people to do that for us.

But in all seriousness. I do think that if the people did decide to legalize everything, then we could put the drug cartels out of business (or at least make them change their business plan), and stop a lot of the violence in Mexico and along our border.

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RE: Medical marijuana ruled out at University - 1/28/2011 10:16:15 AM

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You keep dodging what I said.

You want to pick and choose what issues you wish the State to leave to the Fed and those where you wish the State to ignore the Fed.

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RE: Medical marijuana ruled out at University - 1/28/2011 10:26:59 AM

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No one is an implementation law the other done by the people says to violate the federal law

That is like you may be required to have a safety program under one or the other. It implements the law

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RE: Medical marijuana ruled out at University - 1/28/2011 10:35:12 AM

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Keep telling yourself that.

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RE: Medical marijuana ruled out at University - 1/28/2011 12:06:39 PM

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Ahhh but moon your missing the point.

The states should follow the federal law. Unless of course as in the immigration laws when the State of Arizona decided to write their own and ignore the Fed. In that case it was good for the State to do whatever they wanted.

That whole thought process would be hysterical if it wasn't so completely pathetic.

I read that as the implementation of Federal Law, which is required by the same federal law. Did I lose something. Oh yeah. You want people to come into the country in violation of our laws (least it looks like that to me).

As I've patiently explained to you before the states do not get to enforce federal laws.

Can we quit RCRA enforcement now?

State authorization is a rulemaking process through which EPA delegates the primary responsibility of implementing the RCRA hazardous waste program to individual states in lieu of EPA. This process ensures national consistency and minimum standards while providing flexibility to states in implementing rules. Currently, 50 states and territories have been granted authority to implement the base, or initial, program. Many are also authorized to implement additional parts of the RCRA program that EPA has since promulgated, such as Corrective Action and the Land Disposal Restrictions. State RCRA programs must be at least as stringent as the federal requirements, but states can adopt more stringent requirements as well.

http://www.epa.gov/epawaste/laws-regs/state/index.htm

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RE: Medical marijuana ruled out at University - 1/28/2011 12:26:08 PM

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Your funny

YOU want Arizona to follow the federal law you like and do what they wish on the fed laws you don't approve of.

So which is it? You can't have both at your whim.

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RE: Medical marijuana ruled out at University - 1/28/2011 12:57:42 PM

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ROFLACGU I was only being funny to DomKen lol who said states don't enforce Fed Law. LOL I whole heartedly like RCRA. One thing that I found funny. The very first sanitary landfill in the US a listed historical site, is also a SUPERFUND site (and has to be removed). Both are Federal requirements beating against each other. In the mean time the ground is shrinking as the stuff deteriorates.

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RE: Medical marijuana ruled out at University - 1/28/2011 4:42:59 PM

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I thought you had a few 'States who had legalised (or at least decriminalised) it for medical use?

I believe that the number is sixteen states who have. About a third.

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RE: Medical marijuana ruled out at University - 1/28/2011 5:18:15 PM

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Does anyone know why the FDA has not legalized it?

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RE: Medical marijuana ruled out at University - 1/28/2011 5:21:09 PM

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Does anyone know why the FDA has not legalized it?

My guess is that even if the FDA were inclined to want to legalize pot, it's not within their authority to do so.

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RE: Medical marijuana ruled out at University - 1/28/2011 5:28:35 PM

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Because pot is illegal, so there is no pot industry, therefore they don't have lobbyists to bribe politicians for votes to legalize it.....its a never ending circle jerk.

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RE: Medical marijuana ruled out at University - 1/28/2011 5:52:27 PM

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Because pot is illegal, so there is no pot industry, therefore they don't have lobbyists to bribe politicians for votes to legalize it.....its a never ending circle jerk.

I smell cynicism.

Thumbs up.

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RE: Medical marijuana ruled out at University - 1/28/2011 9:06:44 PM

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Because pot is illegal, so there is no pot industry, therefore they don't have lobbyists to bribe politicians for votes to legalize it.....its a never ending circle jerk.

IF they could find a way to get pot legal and still get elected...

Too many politicians are more concerned about their own wallets and getting re-elected.

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RE: Medical marijuana ruled out at University - 1/28/2011 10:03:46 PM

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I can't blame the colleges on this one.If they do not enforce the Federal laws,then they lose out on their funding.Besides,people really shouldn't be smoking pot while they are suppose to be learning anyways.Alcohol is legal but I do not think drinking and then studying works out that well anyways.If they want to do their "thing",then at least do it off campus and during off time.

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RE: Medical marijuana ruled out at University - 1/28/2011 10:23:03 PM

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I don't really view marijuana as a liberal vs conservative issue.I have known people from all walk,smoke pot.So,put aside the foolish "liberaL" comments when its comes to those who smoke pot.Besides,I thought it was conservatives who preach smaller government and having more freedom.Or is all that a lie,that goes up in smoke?

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RE: Medical marijuana ruled out at University - 1/29/2011 6:50:47 AM

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Maybe if more leftists were stoned they wouldn't vote. I laugh at medical in marijuana, what a hoot.

Huh?

You sound like the "this is your brain on drugs" guy, while claiming to not do drugs. Just too weird for me.

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RE: Medical marijuana ruled out at University - 1/29/2011 9:13:05 AM

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Does anyone know why the FDA has not legalized it?

My guess is that even if the FDA were inclined to want to legalize pot, it's not within their authority to do so.

The FDA is the one that approves drugs for market. If they approve it then it would be legal.

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Because pot is illegal, so there is no pot industry, therefore they don't have lobbyists to bribe politicians for votes to legalize it.....its a never ending circle jerk.

you have proof that bribery is how drugs are approved? And you haven't contacted the district attorney yet?

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RE: Medical marijuana ruled out at University - 1/29/2011 6:02:47 PM

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Does anyone know why the FDA has not legalized it?

My guess is that even if the FDA were inclined to want to legalize pot, it's not within their authority to do so.

The FDA is the one that approves drugs for market. If they approve it then it would be legal.

Nope.

The DEA currently tracks it because it is an illegal drug. In the event that the DEA decided to decriminalize it, it would then become a legal drug and the FDA would have jurisdiction. The determination of whether a drug is legal or not is the DEA's call, not the FDA's.

Edited to add: You are correct that the FDA approves drugs for market. However, when they do, they test drugs that are not approved and not in use, to check efficacy and absence of side effects.

In the event that the DEA decriminalized marijuana, I expect that the FDA would conduct the exact same tests.

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RE: Medical marijuana ruled out at University - 1/30/2011 7:09:55 AM

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Because pot is illegal, so there is no pot industry, therefore they don't have lobbyists to bribe politicians for votes to legalize it.....its a never ending circle jerk.

I think the fact that any pharmaceutical company who tried to patent cannibis sativa wouldn't get very far doing that might have something to do with it as well.

(That said, pot is one hell of a cash crop. It is strange that the Feds would rather all the money that's spent on it go straight to vile pondlife in central america and asia than get a tax bite out of it...)

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RE: Medical marijuana ruled out at University - 1/30/2011 8:31:51 AM

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You are assuming the Feds get nothing.

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