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Jaybeee -> Time Tourists.... (1/7/2011 4:43:35 PM)

If at some point in the future, time-travel becomes possible, do you think you'd need a sort of temporal police squad to ensure time tourists didn't go back and reveal information about what the future was like that might change the future?

So if in 2045 they discover how to send people back, and in 2049 some guy reveals the cure for Cancer two decades before it is to be invented (thus allowing a child to live who would grow up into a 21st Century Hilter), could you imagine an agent from the future Bureau for Temporal Affairs being sent back to arrest the informant?




tazzygirl -> RE: Time Tourists.... (1/7/2011 4:53:35 PM)

You may be interested in this link...

http://www.abyssandapex.com/200710-wikihistory.html

Everybody kills Hitler on their first trip.




PyrotheClown -> RE: Time Tourists.... (1/7/2011 5:06:41 PM)

LMAO
quote:

12/01/2104
At 15:56:41, AsianAvenger wrote:
FreedomFighter69, JudgeDoom, SneakyPete, Jason440953, you're nothing but a pack of racists. Let the light of righteousness shine upon your squalid little viper's nest!

At 16:40:17, BigTom44 wrote:
Well, here we frickin' go.

At 16:58:42, FreedomFighter69 wrote:
Racist? For killing Hitler? WTF?

At 17:12:52, SaucyAussie wrote:
AsianAvenger, you're not rehashing that whole Nagasaki issue again, are you? We just got everyone calmed down from last time.

At 17:22:37, LadyJustice wrote:
I'm with SaucyAussie. AsianAvenger, you're making even less sense than usual. What gives?

At 18:56:09, AsianAvenger wrote:
What gives is everyone's repeated insistence on a course of action which, even if successful, would only save a few million Europeans. It would be no more trouble to travel to Fuyuanshui, China, in 1814 and kill Hong Xiuquan, thus preventing the Taiping Rebellion of the mid–nineteenth century and saving fifty million lives in the process. But, hey, what are fifty million yellow devils more or less, right, guys? We've got Poles and Frenchmen to worry about.

At 19:01:38, LadyJustice wrote:
Well, what's stopping you from killing him, AsianAvenger?

At 19:11:43, AsianAvenger wrote:
Only to have SilverFox316 undo my work? What's the point?

At 19:59:23, SilverFox316 wrote:
Actually, it seems like a pretty good idea to me, AsianAvenger. No complications that I can see.

At 20:07:25, Big Chill wrote:
Go for it, man.

At 20:11:31, AsianAvenger wrote:
Very well. I shall return in mere moments, the savior of millions!

At 20:14:17, LadyJustice wrote:
Just checked the timeline; congrats on your success, AsianAvenger!

12/02/2104
At 10:52:53, LadyJustice wrote:
AsianAvenger?

At 11:41:40, SilverFox316 wrote:
AsianAvenger, we need your report, buddy.

At 17:15:32, SilverFox316 wrote:
Okay, apparently AsianAvenger was descended from Hong Xiuquan. Any volunteers to go back and stop him from negating his own existence?

12/10/2104
At 09:14:44, SilverFox316 wrote:
Anyone?




Aylee -> RE: Time Tourists.... (1/7/2011 5:35:57 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Jaybeee

If at some point in the future, time-travel becomes possible, do you think you'd need a sort of temporal police squad to ensure time tourists didn't go back and reveal information about what the future was like that might change the future?

So if in 2045 they discover how to send people back, and in 2049 some guy reveals the cure for Cancer two decades before it is to be invented (thus allowing a child to live who would grow up into a 21st Century Hilter), could you imagine an agent from the future Bureau for Temporal Affairs being sent back to arrest the informant?


Naw.  I think that we would end up with branching universes. 

Or we may find out the truth of "World as Myth" — the idea that universes are created by the act of imagining them, so that all fictional worlds are in fact real.
 
BTW, there is a genre of literature that deals with this. 




Termyn8or -> RE: Time Tourists.... (1/7/2011 11:52:52 PM)

Despite your transgression in that one thread, perhaps there is hope for you after all. Dolts will rush in and save a liitle old Lady from peril, not realizing that if they do it before she changes her will they will have affected history, their own history if any.

I went deep, I worked very little at work, I was almost a recluse as I wrote a story. I delved into the subject feet first so to speak, and it was not five years, it was three hundred and ninety six. It has been a while, but the set and setting began in about 1999 or so. By the chance discovery of machines left either by a previous race on Earth or an extraterrestrial race, the main character was in suspended animation for that amount of time. He excelled at the new sciences, and became important and famous in a near Utopian society of the future in the USA, shaped by a tumultuous future that was now his past. His new future began in the year 2395.

It was published, but relating to your point, what happened is he was recruited by some who had discovered and were using time travel illegally. (if you knew me you would know why it is written in first person) He is the traveler, since he can't meet himself or his relatives during his incursions to the past he is chosen to do exactly what you put forth. The Group Of Five, he and four others engineered trips to the past to throw certain infiormation to the past, to the other members and others, detailing technology that was in the future to them. The GOF became a superpower worldwide, yet noone knew, because everybody kept their mouth shut. These five peole could take over the planet in a matter of hours, but nobody knew because they simply were not power hungry megalomaniacs. However the US and it's new protectorates were absolutely untouchable. They largely refrained from influencing politics because with the superiority, none of it really mattered.

One day he was alone, both of his Wives (legal) were out and about and he thought of his old GF in the past, and thinking about how full his life had become, thought that he owed her at least a goodbye, like an explaination tht he could not ever come back to her. His life was full, two beautiful and kinky Wives and four kids toboot. They were doing very well. He went back in time and told her so, so she up and married her boyfriend. Well he wound up beating her to within an inch of her life and disabling her permanently. In the original timeline she would not have done that, awaiting his return.

Phil was the foremost expert in the world on time travel and it's ramifications and actually did function as a "time cop". His special equipment detected the disturbance in the timeline and he undid the damage.

All of the members of the GOF realized that the advanced technology could not be revealed, they did fantastic things, like achieved matter passing through matter, total invincibility and a few other things. One of the Wives commented that he had advanced technology by fifty years, later he revealed to her that he had advanced it by about five hundred years.

I never intended to make any money off of it, and there is so much kink in it, it is ridiculous, especially when you consider advanced technology. I mean after a few years a sex change operation (performed by the devices) could be undone with the flip of a switch. That is how avanced it got. But the law of nature, that the present determines the future held true, there were certain things that you just don't do.

It is a hard read, and lonely. My critics have said that it lacks feeling, emotion. Fukum. If you care to read it, beware the preface is longish, but necessary. The link :

http://www.tpe.com/~altarboy/nt050628.htm

My character was as lawless as they come, but with compasion and thought. The main mistake was when he wanted to comfort a loved one from over four hunderd years ago, a plan which backfired on him in spades.

It is full of grammatical erors and whatnot, but I let it stand. It was a long time ago.

T




NocturnalStalker -> RE: Time Tourists.... (1/8/2011 3:33:12 AM)

They found me...I don't know how...but they found me...




MercTech -> RE: Time Tourists.... (1/8/2011 7:56:43 AM)

Ok... read some of H. Beam Piper's books. Every story on this subject I've read for decades seems to be derivative of his ideas.

Stefan




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