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civilians respond to crime,two stories - 1/5/2011 11:56:43 PM   
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And no guns...a completely gun free thread


first, a pretty fucked up police beating,
Nothing new........cept when you notice that the five people around him(who had been in the car with him, so probably friends) do absolutely nothing to stop it


the second
A Seattle man who fights crime....really










truth be told thou, don't know how much he's actually able to do...but hey, he's out there do'n it...unlike those yuppies in the first one

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RE: civilians respond to crime,two stories - 1/6/2011 2:49:52 PM   
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What, a thread bout some dude getting arrested for being naked gets like 30 replies, but one about a brutal police beating and a would be super hero gets none,wtf?lol

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RE: civilians respond to crime,two stories - 1/6/2011 3:16:43 PM   
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So you post part of a scene involving a cop with no back up of the circumstances involved, and you want reactions?

After going through the G20 here in Pittsburgh and watching first hand many of the events, later to view them as abusive on youtube, im so not buying into it.

There are always two sides to every story.

Platke said the man was causing trouble in the store and was asked to leave by Ries, who Platke said has worked at the gas station providing security for four years.

"The guy was plainly drunk," Platke said. "Inebriated."

His friends got him outside but he continued to cause problems, struggling with this friends, Platke said. Ries intervened.

"The officer grabbed him and tried to get him to come out of the car. The guy fell onto his chest and locked his arms around this officer's ankles and would not let go," Platke said. "(The officer) was there with his feet locked together, screaming at this guy to let go. He used his baton to try to hit him to get him to let go. He finally had to use (pepper spray) and the guy finally let go."

Platke said the man was grabbing the officer's ankles and said he believes Ries acted appropriately. He said Ries hit the man in the arms with the baton to get him to let go.


A Kirkwood man, 23, said he shot the video while getting gas at the Shell station. He said he had been out with three friends after an evening on Washington Avenue in downtown St. Louis and stopped for gas on his way home.

The man, who requested anonymity out of fear of retribution from police, said he thinks the officer used excessive force.

The man who shot the video said he did not see what preceded the encounter. He said he saw the officer approach the vehicle seen in the video after he pulled up to the gas pump.

"He can tell that cop to shut up without getting hit like that," the man said. "I don't think that warrants a beating like that. That cop abused his power as a police officer. A lot of times cops forget that. I guess they don't realize what they're doing sometime. Maybe if other police officers see this, they'll think first before they fly off the handle."



http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/article_e28e3c02-1829-11e0-8561-00127992bc8b.html

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RE: civilians respond to crime,two stories - 1/6/2011 3:36:05 PM   
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still missed the point, the buddies round him did absolutely nothing, either to help the cop get free, or at least talk some sense into their friend. In any case, didn't see the cop put up much of a struggle to get his legs free before pelting the dude.I'm a bouncer so I know what its like to half to use force now and again, but unless the drunk is actually trying to hurt me do I ever hurt them, grabbing is normally met with bent thumbs instead of a strike.

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RE: civilians respond to crime,two stories - 1/6/2011 3:38:41 PM   
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Not missing the point. Review the video again, from the moment he was on the ground, the cop did not move from the spot. he didnt move his feet from the moment he pulled the baton until after the pepper spray, when you can see the cop finally moving his feet.

The video was not very clear about what was happening on the ground. I prefer to wait till the investigation is over.

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RE: civilians respond to crime,two stories - 1/6/2011 3:59:28 PM   
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Not missing the point. Review the video again, from the moment he was on the ground, the cop did not move from the spot. he didnt move his feet from the moment he pulled the baton until after the pepper spray, when you can see the cop finally moving his feet.

The video was not very clear about what was happening on the ground. I prefer to wait till the investigation is over.

Exactly, he didn't try to wrestle out of it, or twist the kids arm back to cuff him or nothing, just started swinging.
there's a big difference between an obstinate drunk and some one trying to hurt ya

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RE: civilians respond to crime,two stories - 1/6/2011 4:25:42 PM   
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The investigation will determine what happens.

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RE: civilians respond to crime,two stories - 1/6/2011 4:30:04 PM   
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so noo comment on the second clip, or the point I was trying to make about people either getting involved or not when it comes to crime

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