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DommeKeliDallas -> RE: Money Piggies and Blackmail Play... (1/2/2011 5:01:23 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DarkSteven I could NEVER be a pay piggy. They're not kosher. Very funny, my love.

DommeKeliDallas -> RE: Money Piggies and Blackmail Play... (1/2/2011 5:04:20 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact quote: ORIGINAL: mummyman321 Are you in the right forum? I would think this post should go in the PROFESSIONAL SERVICES forum Yes, it's basically the same post that comes up once a month or so. I'll just do a quick paraphrase of what I replied to when it came up last month. If we were just talking about play partners here, it really surprises Me that any female in a city of that size has trouble finding anyone to match up a particular kink. Looking for clients might pose a different challenge. As to the kink itself, I have a friend who attends the munch where I'm a regular who loves this kink. He gets a real tickle about being asked to do things by Me and likes to pretend that he can't say no because I 'might' have pictures of him in compromising positions from the last play party. As long as I don't deny having hard evidence, he'll do anything in the world for Me. It would make his month to get a note asking him if he saw the pictures that were taken during during the holiday party and some of him in particular were quite interesting. That's all he needs to get his fantasy running and he loves it. Thank you Lady Pact. Great Idea! oxoxoxox

Politesub53 -> RE: Money Piggies and Blackmail Play... (1/2/2011 4:10:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DommeKeliDallas I LOVE money Piggies and Blackmail play...which is PRETEND balckmail. It is NOT real. I had a subbie who LOVED the (pretend) " threat of photos going to his boss or secretary. This is one of my favorite things. It makes me think and express my kinky side even more. Where are you hiding? If this is not your kink, I understand. We are ALL on here because we are kinky. Is it okay to send some pretend money ? [8D]

mummyman321 -> RE: Money Piggies and Blackmail Play... (1/2/2011 4:15:32 PM)
I have plenty of Monopoly money :)

DarkSteven -> RE: Money Piggies and Blackmail Play... (1/2/2011 9:49:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DommeKeliDallas quote: ORIGINAL: DarkSteven I could NEVER be a pay piggy. They're not kosher. Very funny, my love. Woo hoo!!!! /Adds Keli to the list of my conquests/

LadyNTrainer -> RE: Money Piggies and Blackmail Play... (1/2/2011 10:59:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 Is it okay to send some pretend money ? [8D] Yes. I prefer Knuts and Sickles or Eberron gold pieces to Monopoly money. [:D] Any pro dominant who is taking actual real world money for "blackmail play" is putting herself at risk of a nonconsensual bondage scenario that can last for several years and be no fun atall. Bad, bad idea, IMO.

VaguelyCurious -> RE: Money Piggies and Blackmail Play... (1/3/2011 4:21:22 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DarkSteven quote: ORIGINAL: DommeKeliDallas quote: ORIGINAL: DarkSteven I could NEVER be a pay piggy. They're not kosher. Very funny, my love. Woo hoo!!!! /Adds Keli to the list of my conquests/ ...so in StevieWorld all someone has to do to qualify to be a conquest is call you 'my love'? sudden burst of growth in VC's list

LadyPact -> RE: Money Piggies and Blackmail Play... (1/3/2011 4:58:05 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DommeKeliDallas Thank you Lady Pact. Great Idea! oxoxoxox If that was actually an "idea" for you, I'm thinking it's time to hang that "pro" thing up. From the desk of just a lifestyle Domme, Lady P

LadyNTrainer -> RE: Money Piggies and Blackmail Play... (1/3/2011 10:12:01 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact If that was actually an "idea" for you, I'm thinking it's time to hang that "pro" thing up. From the desk of just a lifestyle Domme, Are you seriously saying someone can't be both? There's stuff I don't do as a professional. Blackmail with any real world money being involved would be on that list, because frankly I don't see trusting a client enough to give him that much rope to hang me with. That doesn't make me not a professional, it makes me not an idiot.

GreedyTop -> RE: Money Piggies and Blackmail Play... (1/3/2011 10:17:07 AM)
yanno.. personally speaking, I MIGHT be able to take kelli mor eseriously if she wasnt back here every month or so asking essentially the same questions. I do not think any of the ahem real folks here are debating the pro-not pro question.. just questioning kelli and her frequent repeats of teh same scenario questions. if she's a pro.. or even a lifestyle domme.. I am still a virgin.

LadyPact -> RE: Money Piggies and Blackmail Play... (1/3/2011 10:38:28 AM)
No, I'm not saying that someone can't be both. However, when someone comes around on a regular basis showing their own lack of knowledge in areas where they want to be charging clients for their supposed 'expertise', My personal opinion is that they shouldn't be trying to make a dime off of anyone. It's the equivalent of putting a brand new whip in the hand of someone who has never used one before and then having her charge people for her to beat them. I have every respect for professionals who are knowledgeable and skilled enough to call themselves one. Yet, when I come along and make a comment on a subject that I don't even consider a 101 level basic component regarding a certain kink, and that person comes along and thinks that some kind of actual idea, you tell Me what kind of 'professional' is that? I think if you're going to call yourself a pro, you really ought to know more about the subject than the average layman. Not that this bothers Me, mind you. It's professionals like that which make the average lifestyle Domme like Me look damn good.

mummyman321 -> RE: Money Piggies and Blackmail Play... (1/3/2011 10:44:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyNTrainer Are you seriously saying someone can't be both? People can certainly be both. Do I think DKD can be? Not a snow balls chance in hell. Just a personal opinion though.

LadyNTrainer -> RE: Money Piggies and Blackmail Play... (1/3/2011 10:58:58 AM)
It's possible she thinks that posting this topic is likely to drum up business; if so, she's wrong. The forums are not particularly useful for that purpose. For whatever reason, the demographic of "forum reader" and "client" are remarkably separate. It's also possible that she's trying, albeit awkwardly, to start an actual conversation on the topic. I certainly agree that it's a potentially hot topic, as long as it's clear that it's a fantasy and not criminal activity (eg, no real money ever changes hands). Which to her credit she did make clear. I also think these kinds of scenes are really fun in a fantasy roleplaying context, and worth discussing the possibilities. So I for one appreciate the actual discussion of fantasy blackmail scenarios, they're hot and fun. My personal taste for roleplaying scenarios is pretty geeky though. [:D]

Lockit -> RE: Money Piggies and Blackmail Play... (1/3/2011 11:14:17 AM)
We can debate Keli all day and night, but I think her own words should speak for her. She used to say, I believe until she was called out on it... that she would do what all the other dominant's wouldn't do. She talked of being a passionate lover with her paying slaves, that needed to be well off. Then she would come in and act as if she knew things, claimed to know famous pro and non pro-domina's personally, had all these years of experience and then would ask the most elementary questions. Do a nick search on her. Most of her posts are toward the end of the month or the first. (I said most, not all.) Look at the topics. When do a lot of bills come in? Read journal entries. So, here is a woman claiming to be all that, doesn't know all that and says right off, she will do what the other dominants won't do. She placed herself higher than the rest of us and then proved to be clueless, manipulative and well, not afraid to embarrass herself. Don't believe me and don't want my take on it... research. I did, to make sure I wasn't being unfair. When the facts start making it seem someone is playing a game... and facts would be her own words... then... it is what it is. Please... don't take my word for it. [:D]

LadyPact -> RE: Money Piggies and Blackmail Play... (1/3/2011 11:15:00 AM)
I don't have issue with the topic. At the same time, let's not forget how many times this same thing gets typed up. Lockit nailed this for exactly what it is on the prior page. Check for yourself and see how many times this OP has tried using these forums to drum up business. Something else I don't think any 'professional' worth her salt should have to do. Edited to say strike that. Make it Lockit nailed it on the prior page and this one as well.

LadyNTrainer -> RE: Money Piggies and Blackmail Play... (1/3/2011 11:22:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact I don't have issue with the topic. At the same time, let's not forget how many times this same thing gets typed up. Lockit nailed this for exactly what it is on the prior page. Check for yourself and see how many times this OP has tried using these forums to drum up business. Something else I don't think any 'professional' worth her salt should have to do. True that. It doesn't freaking work anyhow; the demographic just doesn't overlap. No idea why she even bothers if that's her motive for posting here. Srsly, total waste of time. I agree that the red flags are certainly showing here. But in fairness, being socially awkward about trying to start a discussion topic doesn't necessarily mean that person is clueless about it, just clueless about the way they bring up topics on a message board. Now who's up for a hot Snape/Lucius Malfoy blackmail scenario? Payment must be rendered in plain unmarked Gringott's bank drafts and sent via house elf.

LadyNTrainer -> RE: Money Piggies and Blackmail Play... (1/3/2011 11:26:28 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lockit she would do what all the other dominant's wouldn't do. She talked of being a passionate lover with her paying slaves, that needed to be well off. I respect sex workers. I reserve the right to set my own personal and legal boundaries according to my comfort level, but I do not judge others who have different boundaries. I see no problem with prostitution if it is done as a matter of voluntary choice. Do you?

LadyPact -> RE: Money Piggies and Blackmail Play... (1/3/2011 11:35:25 AM)
Pfffftttt! The only way that you're getting at My inner geek is if you start talking to Me in terms of WOW. Unfortunately, we don't have that in common. As to being socially awkward about starting the topic, like I said, this isn't the first go round. It is My opinion that a person should learn from their prior mistakes. We're talking almost two years here and I can't help but think of the definition of insanity. You know. That tired line about doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Red flags? Nah. Big ass red carpets that could completely encase someone and suffocate them.

Lockit -> RE: Money Piggies and Blackmail Play... (1/3/2011 11:43:45 AM)
I do not have any problem with the adult industry. I write porn. However, integrity is important in my opinion. Playing people that have clearly shown they don't like it... isn't the brightest thing to do. Acting as if you are something you are not, isn't really beneficial. I have a high regard for professional dominant's. I couldn't do what they do. I have a high regard for the lifestyle dominant's that do what I am not interested in. There is a lot of work and skill in many of these things. However there are some of each group, if you will, that are not all they claim to be and I would have a problem with either. As for prostitution, I wanted my own gambling establishment, all old west, with the ladies up stairs. I just believe in calling it what it is. If you do it, admit it... don't call it something else. Pro dominant's are not prostitutes. If you or I were to say, I am a pro dominant and a prostitute, I would have no problem with it. But a prostitute doesn't mean they are a dominant and a dominant doesn't mean they are a prostitute. I have a prejudice about liar's, cheats, thieves and players, not anyone in the sex or adult industries, unless they are these other things. lol

LadyNTrainer -> RE: Money Piggies and Blackmail Play... (1/3/2011 11:46:29 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact Pfffftttt! The only way that you're getting at My inner geek is if you start talking to Me in terms of WOW. Unfortunately, we don't have that in common. More into DDO and Guild Wars, though I played Evercrack for a few years before dumping my account on Playerauctions. I keep thinking I should pick up WoW, but my primary insists that it eats people's lives and he's probably right. I spend enough on DDO, which is supposed to be a free game. So you'd be up for a hot Worgen + Tauren blackmail scene? Join my raiding party and farm me some rares, or else I'll post those naughty screen shots of you with your naked horns showing to the guild chat channel. [:D]

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